Are you forgetting that Mourinho won the Carling Cup (or whatever it was called then) and Europa league in his debut season with us…
Not effectively no. It was half arsed by the forwards and either that’s by instruction or because EtH can’t get his message across.
I don't think ETH should be sacked and I've made it clear many times that I believe the structure (or lack thereof) is the main thing that needs to be fixed.
Plus it’s quite something what Welbeck and Lallana are part of that team and we can’t get a working system from the money we’ve spent. I would have rather Garnacho or Pellestri started on the right.
Hojlund was highly rated and they wouldn't have afforded him. Antony? I don't think they would've looked at him at all, they signed Adingra for 10m who already looks better. With his attitude, I doubt they would consider him from his Sao Paolo days either.
It’s true, but it’d be the same situation under any other manager. It’s happened under the last five, at some point the penny has to drop.
We paid so much for these players because they were the manager's targets and he insisted on getting them.
Nah our pressing has been pretty good this season. It's not half arsed. You press to a point and you cut options. They are very good at playing out obviously. We gave them an easy out ball though which they abused.
And ultimately failed because his attempts to instill cohesion and discipline were resisted by the players. Same as Ole and now ETH.
Bullshit
Yeah I know I don’t disagree but that poster made it seem as though ETH was above all that
Nonsense. Criticise ETH all you like. I'm unhappy with some of his recent decisions. I'm one of the biggest moaners about players and manager. Everyone is there to be judged.
Recruitment hinges on what the new players are being brought in to. This group of players that was here before ETH can suck the life out of anyone.
I do think we’ve made a habit of sacking managers and allowing the players off the hook.
What do you win for that? silly commentIn February we were the most in form team in Europe. But nooo. EtH must go
I don’t want him sacked but your request is hilarious.
He said before the game this new formation has been used in training before the Arsenal game and wans't used there because Scottish Maguire got injured last minute.
Mate if this drains you, dont look at the league table, or our GD.
How often did we get the ball in their third? Or by the center of the pitch? There were times even at 0-1 when they were passing the ball and basically waiting for our players to come at them. And I'm not saying it's a work rate issue, it's more of a tactical/individual quality of our players problem.
I love ETH but what the hell was that? Guess he didn't have confidence in Case holding the midfield and wanted to flood it but the smart money would have been on Rangnick's box with McTominay babysitting Casemiro and Bruno + Eriksen as the two AMs, at the very least we wouldn't have conceded the centre.
Every manager makes mistakes, but there are elementary things that are going wrong that make any tactical discussion moot. All three of Brighton’s goals could have been scored by a League 2 team.
Treating Rashford like the other players might be a start.
But the fact is that system was never going to work against Brighton who play with attacking full backs and wingers. Very strange decision.
I don't know what to say to this. How is he a 'lost case' when he got us our first trophy in years and 3rd? Without an actual striker and with all the other frankly unprecedented bullshit he's had to deal with it. And we're 5 games into season 2?
There’s nothing he can do and he’ll end up paying for it with his job like the two managers that came before him. Do you think he instructs the players to jog and not give any effort to win the ball?
yes i agree, shocked it was that ferocious to be honest
He should have then just played McTominay with Casemiro and dropped Erikson for either Garnacho or Pellestri on the right wing. We look more dangerous when we play out wide so no idea why we restricted ourselves.
I'd say if anything we've kept managers on for too long in the past because of Glazer penny pinching and not wanting to pay them off. They've made the same mistakes with players.
Why did it work up until their goal? Because the players were actually trying hard for the first 20 minutes and then fell apart mentally.
It's one thing to want something and it's another to be actually able to do something. We scored from a brilliant long range effort and that's everything that we could do.
That's definitely an exaggeration, but even if it were accurate, none of his previous clubs are anywhere near the level of United. The pressure he'd be under here, the egos of the players he'd be coming in to manage, and how unsuited they are to play his football, combined with the lack of support or structure above him, would be orders of magnitude beyond anything he's experienced before. It would most likely be a disaster.
