Any cup competition isn’t to be sniffed at if you’ve gone barren for as long as Spurs have, and the great football already slowed down, they just struggled to beat (very fortuitously at that) Sheffield at home.The league cup isn't really that important for them this season. Their main target is to rebuild the team, restore their identity and finish top 4 if possible. They are well on track in all of these.
I didn’t know the season finishes after 5 games now, grand achievement indeed.And also 2nd in the table.
I don't want ETH or any other manager to be trusted with driving our transfer strategy or scouting anymore. Get proper specialists in place for that.And then we trust the next manager to spend those pennies, whoever it is? That’s a curious conclusion.
You just cant be selective in your assessment conveniently leaving out the good stuff they are doing just to prove a point.I didn’t know the season finishes after 5 games now, grand achievement indeed.
I agree. We need someone who is capable and a strong hand in telling Ten Hag to concentrate on coaching.I don't want ETH or any other manager to be trusted with driving our transfer strategy or scouting anymore. Get proper specialists in place for that.
Casemiro was basically signed before Brentford as he famously text to say the result made him even more determined to join, not less. He wasn't a reaction to the cuffing.Next they got battered by Brentford and then splashed out on Casemiro (who they did need despite it being short term) and then Antony to produce balance on the right.
Yes, I know it emerged he was in the plans, but they spent €100 euro on Anthony.Casemiro was basically signed before Brentford as he famously text to say the result made him even more determined to join, not less. He wasn't a reaction to the cuffing.
Maybe the solution is to hire a manager the fanbase hates, and use that as a pretext to strip the position of all its responsibilities other than coaching.There's more to it than that. Within a month of taking the job, the **** of personality builds around the manager. The back the manager anthem gets louder and louder. More and more spoke gets blown up the managerial arsehole by the fans and those around the club.
So even a humble coach, who knows his limitations starts to believe he's some **** leader. They all turn into insufferable arrogant cocks quite soon after taking the job unfortunately, and then its hard to put them back in their place.
Pretty cheapYes, I know it emerged he was in the plans, but they spent €100 euro on Anthony.
There’s nothing selective about the statement I made, those are plain facts.You just cant be selective in your assessment conveniently leaving out the good stuff they are doing just to prove a point.
Garnacho, Erikson… and you build a squad for that exactly.Who should start ahead of Rashford Bruno and Casemiro?
Honestly sometimes our fanbase are on a complete wind up
I would really love to see this!There is a league cup games against Palace coming up...I hope EtH can field a side which is free of the doom and gloom and instead full fresh faces.
--------- Hojlund ---------
Garnacho - Pellestri
---------- Mount ----------
- Amrabat - Mainoo -
How long was it before you started to see his vision on the pitch at Ajax? Wasn't he under a lot of pressure there too at the start?Please sack him and send back to Ajax. We desperately need him!
We played a 442 variation with a diamond in midfield. We clearly did not play 4231 as you suggestedWe definitely didn't play in 4312. Some sites may pretend that we did but we didn't, Eriksen and Casemiro touches are evenly spread respectively left and right side of the pitch, Rashford was heavily on the left and in his regular position, Hojlund was central as was Bruno, McTominay was slightly more inside than a regular right midfielder but wasn't involved in general midfield play and was not operating as a central midfielder.
All those who are massive fans of ETH, how do you explain playing Bruno at the b
It’s probably getting a lot worse because almost every transfer we overpaid massively, 25-50% more, case by case. However, in the meantime, the whole market inflates a lot as well.Do you think our transfer business got any worse under ten Hag, rather than just continue the consistent, wasteful awfulness of the last ten years?
Didnt Garnacho start the first 2 games of the season and was poor with fans calling for him to be dropped?Garnacho, Erikson… and you build a squad for that exactly.
Before I get accused otherwise, the Glazers need to go but............blaming THEM for us playing like dog shite is too convenient.Currently no one but ETH needs to pull his fingers and understand that Rashford isn't a midfielder and that his current 4231 assume that he is. Most of our issues have little to do with the board or some luck, it's either due to players not following instructions while somehow always playing the same way and do things that aren't actually natural or they are following instructions and those instructions are bad. As an example we almost always press with an asymmetric 4222, teams struggle with it during the first minutes and then quickly realise that they can bypass it by playing wide in their own third and narrow in the middle third because there is a massive gap in the middle.
ETH is being stubborn for no apparent reason, his 4231 doesn't work, the team isn't compact enough and the players have the very bad habit of slowly carrying the ball in transition instead of passing it and generally adopt a more direct approach.
can’t see Zidane taking the job, why on earth would he? Career suicide.Who would even be in line for it if we did sack him? Zidane again?
Exactly, it's taken him 5 games to implement his style of play, we're 70 games in with ten Hag and we don't have a set style of play that's evident.It's only been 5 games.
Absolutely yes for most part there are plenty of things you have listed which are directly under the influence of the manager.Post SAF, we have changed 5 managers and we are still having the same problem.
Negative football, inconsistent, players moral problems, players deteriorated after rejoining us, sign wrong players, no set style of play from manager to manager, players being paid too much, overpaid for mediocre players, injury problems and the list goes on and on.
Do we still blame the manager?
I don't think Zidane would take the job, but how is it career suicide?can’t see Zidane taking the job, why on earth would he? Career suicide.
I remember people talking that crap after a few games of Jose at Spurs. Lets see how Spurs look after they face some adversity.Exactly, it's taken him 5 games to implement his style of play, we're 70 games in with ten Hag and we don't have a set style of play that's evident.
Don't even need to go that far back, people were cursing us for not getting Conte.I remember people talking that crap after a few games of Jose at Spurs. Lets see how Spurs look after they face some adversity.
Out of his depth. Would be good for United and for him to go.Performances since the cup final (February) have been poor. We lose against anyone half decent away from home. This season we've been very underwhelming at home too. It's hard to pinpoint anything tactically that we are good at. Transfers have been questionable plus there is a lot of off-field nonsense going on.
Would you sack or keep?
It's not an either or thing or we could then also conclude that buying and selling players "isn't working" so we should stop doing it.Post SAF, we have changed 5 managers and we are still having the same problem.
Negative football, inconsistent, players moral problems, players deteriorated after rejoining us, sign wrong players, no set style of play from manager to manager, players being paid too much, overpaid for mediocre players, injury problems and the list goes on and on.
Do we still blame the manager?
Of course we can blame the manager for signing wrong players or mediocre players. Boggles my mind that you think the managers have nothing to do with this.Post SAF, we have changed 5 managers and we are still having the same problem.
Negative football, inconsistent, players moral problems, players deteriorated after rejoining us, sign wrong players, no set style of play from manager to manager, players being paid too much, overpaid for mediocre players, injury problems and the list goes on and on.
Do we still blame the manager?
Yes. It is the players who have downed the tools so he get sacked, despite that half of those players are players he has signed.we're at conspiracy stage alreaydy?
Signing players that don't fit the team is on the manager, but everything else is a matter of money. Signing someone mediocre for low money to be a reliable squad option is ok, signing him for huge money and give him a big contract is a problem. And that's a matter of the DoF not doing sensible business and not stepping back from interesting transfers once they become to expensive.Of course we can blame the manager for signing wrong players or mediocre players. Boggles my mind that you think the managers have nothing to do with this.
Every one of them bought in some of these mediocre (at least while playing for us) overpaid players that they wanted.
Fellaini;
Di Maria, Depay, Schweinsteiger;
Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez;
Maguire, VDB, Ronaldo, Sancho.
I'm leaving ETH out as his so-far-mediocre signings still have time to make an impact. Looking at you, Antony.
But this idea that managers are blameless for poor transfers makes no sense.
The idea is that managers shouldn't be having near the level of input they've had in something most managers aren't good at. Moyes stopped us signing Thiago. Van Gaal stopped us signing Kroos. This shite has been going on too long.Of course we can blame the manager for signing wrong players or mediocre players. Boggles my mind that you think the managers have nothing to do with this.
Every one of them bought in some of these mediocre (at least while playing for us) overpaid players that they wanted.
Fellaini;
Di Maria, Depay, Schweinsteiger;
Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez;
Maguire, VDB, Ronaldo, Sancho.
I'm leaving ETH out as his so-far-mediocre signings still have time to make an impact. Looking at you, Antony.
But this idea that managers are blameless for poor transfers makes no sense.
Antony, no right foot, I mean who plays as right winger with no fecking right foot? Thus his nickname Christy.Ignoring emergency loans, who?
Who cares if they're 2nd? We've dismissed our own 3rd place finish last year... but we'll lap up other teams for some odd reason.And also 2nd in the table.
Its not like he started the match with a CB pairing of Licha and Bruno is it?All those who are massive fans of ETH, how do you explain playing Bruno at the back ?
Nope, despite the fact this squad needs another £500m spent on it the next manager should operate under the impression they’ll get the same budget the likes of Brighton or Tottenham get each season due to FFP restrictions. Ten Hag might be a good manager but allowing him to buy shite players and refuse to work with current players (because he wants more money) isn’t working. Come in, prove you’re a good manager, be rewarded in time.And then we trust the next manager to spend those pennies, whoever it is? That’s a curious conclusion.
Sadly no manager in the world can show their best under this ownership and club structure.He is a good manager I feel but isn't showing his best here. This won't take long this time in my opinion
