Rashford was just an example. It's about lots of players.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Come on mate that was a second string team with Reece James, Saidy Janko, James Wilson, Marnik Vermijl, and Nick Powell. It is not comparable to this game at all.
“After today’s three goals from Coventry City, Manchester United have conceded 29 goals in 17 games in all competitions in 2024.”
I think conceding the amount of shots we do is becoming an issue.
I think conceding the amount of shots we do is becoming an issue.
You would think he will be here until end of the season and they will push like mad to get Ashworth in and quick. We have two home games this week, but we are fast running out of players.
That bloody fool Goldbridge still saying it's the players not the manager. fecking annoying
Are we in the final?
3 finals in 2 seasons. Decent record all things considered.
Awful season though and not enough evidence that we're progressing
Awful season though and not enough evidence that we're progressing
We have some awful players. AWB has zero technical ability. McT still hits one long pass out of 5 chances. Casemiro and Eriksen play the game at half speed. Rashford has no clue what to do in the attacking third. We have no left footed defenders. Our midfield signing is a crock. Those are his excuses.
But those have been known for quite some time now. If a United manager can't manage to see out a 3-0 lead against Coventry then he doesn't deserve to be here. A manager has to manage. Even if it means just sticking 2 lines of 4 in front of goal for 20 mins to defend a lead, he has to manage. He doesn't adjust mid game. Hell, he hasn't adjusted his suicidal appraoch all season.
Maybe his tactics will work with better, faster, technical players. But he doesn't have them now and he should've changed his tactics to suit the players he has. But he decided to waste an entire season because he won't adjust. I don't think EtH is incompetent like some do on here. But I think he is too stubborn for his own good. I just wish he was stubborn at applying his Ajax style here. At least we'd have something to hang onto. But we have nothing. Just a feeling of dread that we'll get outclassed by City again.
But those have been known for quite some time now. If a United manager can't manage to see out a 3-0 lead against Coventry then he doesn't deserve to be here. A manager has to manage. Even if it means just sticking 2 lines of 4 in front of goal for 20 mins to defend a lead, he has to manage. He doesn't adjust mid game. Hell, he hasn't adjusted his suicidal appraoch all season.
Maybe his tactics will work with better, faster, technical players. But he doesn't have them now and he should've changed his tactics to suit the players he has. But he decided to waste an entire season because he won't adjust. I don't think EtH is incompetent like some do on here. But I think he is too stubborn for his own good. I just wish he was stubborn at applying his Ajax style here. At least we'd have something to hang onto. But we have nothing. Just a feeling of dread that we'll get outclassed by City again.
Oh dear. They do not look happy in that second photo.
It's a results-oriented business. Every manager has excuses, players unavailable, fixture congestion, shit VAR calls, whatever.
Does our football pass the "eye test"? No, it does not.
Does our football show tactical brilliance? No, it does not.
Are we not getting the rub of the green from VAR and refs? Can't blame it on that.
Does he just not have "his" players? We've spent hundreds of millions on Casemiro, Antony, Malacia, Mount, Martinez, Onana, and we're no better than we were last season, and might actually be worse.
I think at even a basic coaching course they could show a video of one of our matches and it would easily be picked apart for being an unworkable, suicidal set up. And when we go further into the match and our players completely lose the midfield and our players look like strangers to each other, it could be used as the textbook example of how not to manage a game, how not to make changes and adjustments on the fly.
Does our football pass the "eye test"? No, it does not.
Does our football show tactical brilliance? No, it does not.
Are we not getting the rub of the green from VAR and refs? Can't blame it on that.
Does he just not have "his" players? We've spent hundreds of millions on Casemiro, Antony, Malacia, Mount, Martinez, Onana, and we're no better than we were last season, and might actually be worse.
I think at even a basic coaching course they could show a video of one of our matches and it would easily be picked apart for being an unworkable, suicidal set up. And when we go further into the match and our players completely lose the midfield and our players look like strangers to each other, it could be used as the textbook example of how not to manage a game, how not to make changes and adjustments on the fly.
Looks like he had the chicken at HT
How is putting on Eriksen conceding possession and control? Isn’t that one of his best qualities. I don’t think the players he took off were playing particularly well.
You’re starting a different conversation there. Im not defending his recruitment and nor do I want him here next season. Im just saying that I felt today’s collapse is more to blame on the players. Like it was at Chelsea, Brentford, in the champions league. It’s mental fragility.
Yet his tweet caused all the problems for Garnacho didn't it, he wasn't a fan of the manager then.
Well he's sacrificed a season in Manchester Uniteds history at the altar of persisting with a system that doesn't work, he doesn't know how to implement properly or doesn't have to personnel for or a combination of all 3.
Any way you look at it, it reflects poorly on him as a manager.
Also to add to that he obviously wanted Mount as a priority and his idea was to play with Mount and Bruno in front of Casemiro….he's so tactically inept I don’t have a clue what he was thinking it was never going to work so he’s not only blown money but his gameplay is completely out of the window after 2 games
He’s honestly the worst manager we’ve had and the stats back it up
In this instance that is very much how football works. If you actually think we have any chance in hell against City then I don't know what to tell you. Especially under this clown.
Dr Robotnik next to him doesn't look happy either.
You know what, people here will goto the threads to laugh at arse and pool.
As a longtime manutd fan, I am so embarrassed by our season under ETH. I have completely lost even a tiny bit of hope. What’s the point to continue like this for the team and the club overall?!
Erik doesn’t think it is.“After today’s three goals from Coventry City, Manchester United have conceded 29 goals in 17 games in all competitions in 2024.”
I think conceding the amount of shots we do is becoming an issue.
He's right it is the players, when a team perform badly it's always the players, however the leader of the players takes the fall. ETH must go and in truth it should be by the morning after that.
Oh ffs so sick of this. Where was mister £410m spent on players, mister £173,000 per week manager against a team that is 8th in the Championship. Bloody excuses.
It's a combination of both and I think that's clear for everyone to see.
We have 0% chance of beating City in a final with this guy,
A change is needed even if that gives us a slim chance.
A change is needed even if that gives us a slim chance.
He needs to go. How anyone can still back him is mental. You're either an opposition fan or you need to get your head checked.
To be fair, Mount, Bruno, and Casemiro would be formidable in the Eredivisie. Top half of the table, surely.
If Ole had any kind of luck he'd have been playing sides like Coventry in semi finals.
With a fringe team and youngsters in an early round of the league cup yes.
Massively different to today.
On the bright side we kept Coventry under 20 shots on our goal today.
He knows well it's a controversial topic and is using our fanbase's unusual attachment to the manager to generate engagement. He will change his story immediatelly when ETH is sacked.
If you actually want the players dealt with you should also want ten Hag gone, as he's proven himself a pretty terrible judge at this point.
It is in one way, as we were cruising 3-0 and somehow let them back in.
But it's on the manager why we concede 25-30 shots every single game.
I don't think any other Utd manager would have blown a 3-0 lead against a mid table championship side with 20 minutes left..
Not even moyes or Rangnick.
The constant collapses are an ETH hallmark at this point.
Not even moyes or Rangnick.
The constant collapses are an ETH hallmark at this point.
I keep asking no one answers. What makes you think Ten Hag would get rid of Rashford?
And besides it won't be his decision alone even if he does stay.
I think Mainoo should be rested from time to time, but to be fair, that danish international should only be playing in the 10 position, he shouldn't be a straight swap for a more defensive minded player. It left us with no real cover in front of the defence.
I don't care, on the occasion they got forward they had legitimate chances. I think if they had better quality they'd have beat us in normal time today. He needed to find a way of closing the door.
Yup, like that thing we do of conceding right after scoring - it's another hallmark of his tenure.
Rashford is guaranteed to be the first name on the team sheet in the FA cup final, you know it. And you know when he is shit, he'll take Garnacho out for Antony.
Absolutely on the brink right now.
Not that we will, but even winning the cup probably won't be enough
Not that we will, but even winning the cup probably won't be enough
3 out of 4 domestic finals in 2 years. Yet people want him sacked 