EU Referendum Results Thread | Leave have won, Cameron resigns

How did you vote to this: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the EU or leave the EU?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 321 75.5%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 80 18.8%

  • Spoiled ballot

    Votes: 24 5.6%
  • Total voters
    425
  • Poll closed .
Cheesy said:
Just tonight I didn't think it'd be enough, even with a Leave. But now...seeing these massive Remain majorities compared to England, I'm struggling to see any justification as to why we should continue to be a part of this union. The economic arguments seem silly now when we're seeing the way the pound is performing, and I suspect this isn't just a sole feeling...what the feck do unionists argue for now?

Ruth Davidson, for example, performed well in the elections, but how does she succeed now when she's been on a pro-EU platform that has been annihilated? The SNP can at least argue they warned us this could happen, but the other parties have always told us everything would be fine. If it isn't...I don't see why we'll remain in the union apart from simply not being allowed to leave.
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Good post.

I remember getting told 2 years ago to vote 'no' because our place in the EU depended on it and we may not get back in if we left. That's pretty funny now...

And like you say, I can't see any justification either. We're a culturally different country to England and this is shown every GE/referendum and yet the will of our people is rendered utterly irrelevant. That alone should be enough of a justification for people.
 
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Bookie odds available right now on a LEAVE win. Been getting shorter every 20 mins!
 
Cheesy said:
I'm honestly not so sure. The problem for Labour is that this issue runs far, far deeper than Corbyn. I think you'd need an inspirational, once in a generation type figure to reverse some of the trends we've seen.
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We're fecked
 
Bojan11 said:
Labour went downhill once they gave the wrong Milliband the job.
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The problem is that Labour are attributing their decline to any single figure, whether that be Miliband or Corbyn. This runs far deeper for the party.
 
ThierryHenry said:
Did Boris actually make the difference?
Would more Labour supporters have voted differently if we had had a year of Burnham as leader instead of Corbyn?
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I have never seen a more lethargic and uninspiring leader than Corbyn.
 
the hea said:
Wow I really didn't expect this, I think a lot of people might regret what they have done today in a couple of years.
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Quite a few people I knew voted leave because they thought "it's fixed and it wont make a difference".
 
Cameron should be crucified. Why this was ever left for Joe Bloggs to decide escapes me.
 
bri2013 said:
I have read this post a few times and still have no idea what you are talking about.
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I'm from Huddersfield- the talk in that region from working class white people is that they want to limit immigration 'take back control of our borders'.

Also Anjem Choudary saying he backs the EU because of protections against deportations was seen as a reason to leave..

If you mean the Sports Direct story, the company has a policy of treating it's workers like shit- a friend on my facebook was using this as a reason why the EU is shit

Obviously the EU promotes employment rights - https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/UK employment rights and the EU.pdf

It's upto the UK to enforce these, the EU doesn't police it's members in the first instance..
 
The leave rep talking to Dimbleby is insufferable.
 
Cheesy said:
The problem is that Labour are attributing their decline to any single figure, whether that be Miliband or Corbyn. This runs far deeper for the party.
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Decent chance he'd be PM now, though. And if he was PM, no referendum.

Not that it fixes the structural problems for the party, but we wouldn't, as a country, be about to jump off a bridge.
 
Pink Moon said:
Good post.

I remember getting told 2 years ago to vote 'no' because our place in the EU depended on it and we may not get back in if we left. That's pretty funny now...

And like you say, I can't see any justification either. We're a culturally different country to England and this is shown every GE/referendum and yet the will of our people is rendered utterly irrelevant. That alone should be enough of a justification for people.
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Yeah, I mean it feels like every single Better Together argument is now utter horseshit.

- Labour told us not to leave due to a Tory government, because they would take power in 2015. The Tories got a majority.

- Tories and Labour told us we were safe in the EU within the UK, and that going independent risked this. We are now going to leave the EU, after comments that there wouldn't be a referendum.

- We were laughed at when Boris Johnson was suggested as a future Prime Minister. He is now the favourite to be the next Prime Minister.

- And the biggest of all: the economic argument. Even I had my consistent doubts regarding this. But now, we're seeing the pound fall, and absurd economic uncertainty within Britain. How does a No campaign then argue that their option offers economic security?
 
Cheesy said:
This does concern me, but I'd argue that the EU is still far, far away from being a state, and would likely see extreme opposition from actually becoming one. I just have no faith whatsoever in the figures likely to be leading the UK if we leave, or the ones currently in charge.

I've become increasingly sceptical of the SNP recently...but a campaign like this reminds me of the fact that figures like Salmond and Sturgeon are truly committed to independence, unlike the selfish self-interest of guys like Boris and Cameron.
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Fair fecks mate.

Now don't hate me, but I voted leave possibly for similar reasons a lot of Scots went for independence; sovereignty, I believe in local rule.

I can't believe being pro EU has become such a left wing thing, I can't get my head around socialists who want centralised power far, far away.

That said, I'm Cornish and a bit proud, but I wouldn't want independence here like some call for.

...and despite having voted leave today, I'm panicking now.
 
ThierryHenry said:
I do wonder what happens in London this weekend. Riots and violence wouldn't be a shock.
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I bloody hope not. The police were stretched beyond capacity and violence occurred unchecked. A friend of a friend actually joined an FB organised group of volunteers to defend the streets of Enfield Town. In the end, they just walked up and down the high street before heading to the pub.
 
Ubik said:
Decent chance he'd be PM now, though. And if he was PM, no referendum.

Not that it fixes the structural problems for the party, but we wouldn't, as a country, be about to jump off a bridge.
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Meh, I'm still not sure. Referendum still happens, so Scotland still turns against Labour. At best, Labour sneak a minority. Even if we don't see a referendum though, it's still looming there in the background, giving UKIP more time to gain support. We'd possibly have seen Miliband in 2020 doing what Dave did last year - offering an EU referendum to try and keep dissenters to UKIP happy.
 
I'm still watching. Does this affect Canada...probably not in the long term....yet I continue to watch.
 
Shane88 said:
Won't the pound just bounce back to normal in a week/month?
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it will bounce back a bit defiantly when the world wakes up and realise nowt is going to change over night, how much it bounces back and where it goes from thier...... feck knowes!
 
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