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Manchester votes remain, not enough in it though. Only 60-40.
that is scary! i mean it will probably bounce back a bit when everyone calms down a bit but its scary.1.37 against the dollar. Fecking idiots
It's ok, Boris will apologise.I don't understand how these politicans can be proud of the leave vote, putting the country in another recession, how is that cheerable
Good post.Just tonight I didn't think it'd be enough, even with a Leave. But now...seeing these massive Remain majorities compared to England, I'm struggling to see any justification as to why we should continue to be a part of this union. The economic arguments seem silly now when we're seeing the way the pound is performing, and I suspect this isn't just a sole feeling...what the feck do unionists argue for now?
Ruth Davidson, for example, performed well in the elections, but how does she succeed now when she's been on a pro-EU platform that has been annihilated? The SNP can at least argue they warned us this could happen, but the other parties have always told us everything would be fine. If it isn't...I don't see why we'll remain in the union apart from simply not being allowed to leave.
And considering how Italian her voice sounds, she's probably going to be getting deported next Tuesday too.The fat lady has all but sung now.
And considering how Italian her voice sounds, she's probably going to be getting deported next Tuesday too.
We're feckedI'm honestly not so sure. The problem for Labour is that this issue runs far, far deeper than Corbyn. I think you'd need an inspirational, once in a generation type figure to reverse some of the trends we've seen.
And considering how Italian her voice sounds, she's probably going to be getting deported next Tuesday too.
I've admitted defeat, now I'm just using this to acknowledge the decent parts of the country.Last time you did this there were two heavy losses just after
The problem is that Labour are attributing their decline to any single figure, whether that be Miliband or Corbyn. This runs far deeper for the party.Labour went downhill once they gave the wrong Milliband the job.
David wouldn't have made a jot of difference.Labour went downhill once they gave the wrong Milliband the job.
Uncertainty does that. It will come back.£ almost down to a 30 year low already
Genuinely not sure he planned on Leave winning.It's ok, Boris will apologise.
YepLabour went downhill once they gave the wrong Milliband the job.
I have never seen a more lethargic and uninspiring leader than Corbyn.Did Boris actually make the difference?
Would more Labour supporters have voted differently if we had had a year of Burnham as leader instead of Corbyn?
Quite a few people I knew voted leave because they thought "it's fixed and it wont make a difference".Wow I really didn't expect this, I think a lot of people might regret what they have done today in a couple of years.
He's a self serving cnut, I'm fuming nowGenuinely not sure he planned on Leave winning.
I'm from Huddersfield- the talk in that region from working class white people is that they want to limit immigration 'take back control of our borders'.I have read this post a few times and still have no idea what you are talking about.
Decent chance he'd be PM now, though. And if he was PM, no referendum.The problem is that Labour are attributing their decline to any single figure, whether that be Miliband or Corbyn. This runs far deeper for the party.
Yeah, I mean it feels like every single Better Together argument is now utter horseshit.Good post.
I remember getting told 2 years ago to vote 'no' because our place in the EU depended on it and we may not get back in if we left. That's pretty funny now...
And like you say, I can't see any justification either. We're a culturally different country to England and this is shown every GE/referendum and yet the will of our people is rendered utterly irrelevant. That alone should be enough of a justification for people.
Fair fecks mate.This does concern me, but I'd argue that the EU is still far, far away from being a state, and would likely see extreme opposition from actually becoming one. I just have no faith whatsoever in the figures likely to be leading the UK if we leave, or the ones currently in charge.
I've become increasingly sceptical of the SNP recently...but a campaign like this reminds me of the fact that figures like Salmond and Sturgeon are truly committed to independence, unlike the selfish self-interest of guys like Boris and Cameron.
I bloody hope not. The police were stretched beyond capacity and violence occurred unchecked. A friend of a friend actually joined an FB organised group of volunteers to defend the streets of Enfield Town. In the end, they just walked up and down the high street before heading to the pub.I do wonder what happens in London this weekend. Riots and violence wouldn't be a shock.
Meh, I'm still not sure. Referendum still happens, so Scotland still turns against Labour. At best, Labour sneak a minority. Even if we don't see a referendum though, it's still looming there in the background, giving UKIP more time to gain support. We'd possibly have seen Miliband in 2020 doing what Dave did last year - offering an EU referendum to try and keep dissenters to UKIP happy.Decent chance he'd be PM now, though. And if he was PM, no referendum.
Not that it fixes the structural problems for the party, but we wouldn't, as a country, be about to jump off a bridge.