The death of Henry Surtees.
F1 2017 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Would it though ? the halo might have stopped it, but I am not convinced.
Would it even have stopped the Massa injury.
I think it looks ugly and unless it is a full shield system, I dont see any benefits.
I'm sure it will have plenty of benefits for the FIA with regards to the Bianchi family's lawsuit.
A Ding Ding Ding moment. I thought they were concerned for drivers safety.
Isn't there some kind of insurance the FIA pays against this kind of thing though?
but again would it have saved his life ? The way Bianchi hit that truck I doubt it.
No way it would have saved him, might even have complicated things further depending on how the impact panned out. Point being though that while the FIA are being sued for not taking safety seriously enough they have to be seen pushing stuff like this through, otherwise it's just more fuel for the prosecution.
If it could potentially save even 1 life throughout it's entire time in F1, it's worth it to be put in.
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I can find that race online in like 10 seconds.
Well done
I was just saying that if you wanted to see it, it's easy to find it online and don't have to wait to watch it.Well done
I agree, but I am struggling to think of any accident since Senna thats the Helo would have been useful and you can say yes the helo saved him from death
What happens to these halos in a high speed crash? I can see them being more dangerous than they are worth.
It's kinda difficult.
To us, the viewer, it makes no difference, other than aesthetics. Halo is hugely ugly, however, I think that the teams will make them blend much more & weveont really notice after a couple if races (or even sessions in Albert Park).
On saying that, F1 is supposed to be the ultimate motorsport. Open wheel, open cockpit; the danger & thrills draw us to it like no other car race.
If you're involved directly, it's a no-brainer. The governing body is better protected (legislatively) as are the teams and drivers (physically). Obviously it won't stop head injuries (what measure will?) but could potentially prevent the driver from death in the right scenario.
All in all, it's probably the right step. I guess we'll be closed cockpit by 2020 anyway, so it's probably a moot point.
To us, the viewer, it makes no difference, other than aesthetics. Halo is hugely ugly, however, I think that the teams will make them blend much more & weveont really notice after a couple if races (or even sessions in Albert Park).
On saying that, F1 is supposed to be the ultimate motorsport. Open wheel, open cockpit; the danger & thrills draw us to it like no other car race.
If you're involved directly, it's a no-brainer. The governing body is better protected (legislatively) as are the teams and drivers (physically). Obviously it won't stop head injuries (what measure will?) but could potentially prevent the driver from death in the right scenario.
All in all, it's probably the right step. I guess we'll be closed cockpit by 2020 anyway, so it's probably a moot point.
Good post and yes after a few races, we will just not notice.
Kubica testing for Renault. Really hope he comes back. Just as talented as Hamilton in my book
Kevin Magnussen on the halo:
"I'm against it [the halo]. I don't think it is what F1 should be about. I don't agree safety is always number one...We could make the cars go maximum 80km/h and it would be very safe, but it would be very boring"
"I'm against it [the halo]. I don't think it is what F1 should be about. I don't agree safety is always number one...We could make the cars go maximum 80km/h and it would be very safe, but it would be very boring"
Max Verstappen on the halo:
“The one I tried I didn’t like the visibility & the thing in front of you. It is not great. I don’t like it...
“The wheel tethers are strong so you won’t lose a wheel easily. When there are parts flying around it won’t protect you so I don't understand why we need it...
“As soon as I have that thing [halo] on my car I don’t like it so the excitement is gone before I’m even in the car.”
“The one I tried I didn’t like the visibility & the thing in front of you. It is not great. I don’t like it...
“The wheel tethers are strong so you won’t lose a wheel easily. When there are parts flying around it won’t protect you so I don't understand why we need it...
“As soon as I have that thing [halo] on my car I don’t like it so the excitement is gone before I’m even in the car.”
Sauber have cancelled their planned partnership for the 2018 Formula 1 season with Honda.
The Swiss outfit are currently powered by a year-old supply of Ferrari engines.
Full statement from Sauber
'The technological partnership between the Sauber F1 Team and Honda, which was intended to start from 2018 onwards, is no longer in place. The new Sauber engine partner will be announced shortly.
'Frédéric Vasseur, Team Principal:
"It is very unfortunate that we have to discontinue the planned collaboration with Honda at this stage. However, this decision has been made for strategic reasons, and with the best intent for the future of the Sauber F1 Team in mind. We would like to thank Honda for their collaboration, and wish them all the best for their future in Formula One."'
The Swiss outfit are currently powered by a year-old supply of Ferrari engines.
Full statement from Sauber
'The technological partnership between the Sauber F1 Team and Honda, which was intended to start from 2018 onwards, is no longer in place. The new Sauber engine partner will be announced shortly.
'Frédéric Vasseur, Team Principal:
"It is very unfortunate that we have to discontinue the planned collaboration with Honda at this stage. However, this decision has been made for strategic reasons, and with the best intent for the future of the Sauber F1 Team in mind. We would like to thank Honda for their collaboration, and wish them all the best for their future in Formula One."'
Jolyon Palmer's season hit another low at the Hungarian GP on Friday as he crashed heavily at the final corner during Practice Two.
The Briton, who was in desperate need of a clean weekend as scrutiny over his future increases, lost control at the right-hander and span into the barriers, causing significant damage to the rear of his Renault.
The incident came after the 26-year-old had had his front wing obliterated after running wide over the kerbs at Turn Four in Practice One, which brought that session to a premature end.
Palmer has yet to score a point this season and has been regularly out-performed by team-mate Nico Hulkenberg, who has scored all 26 of Renault's points so far.
The Briton, who was in desperate need of a clean weekend as scrutiny over his future increases, lost control at the right-hander and span into the barriers, causing significant damage to the rear of his Renault.
The incident came after the 26-year-old had had his front wing obliterated after running wide over the kerbs at Turn Four in Practice One, which brought that session to a premature end.
Palmer has yet to score a point this season and has been regularly out-performed by team-mate Nico Hulkenberg, who has scored all 26 of Renault's points so far.
Said when he started he was the new Chilton, hasn't let me down to be fair. How Di Resta can't get a drive while this clown can is beyond me.
his record is not great, I agree there is better drivers out there like Di Resta who would do better.
Vergne is another. Suppose it's more about money now though. Can see Formula E, with its lower expenses, gaining ground F1 over the next few years.
Massive Grand Prix for Ferrari, as we are going through a downward spiral.
We'll see this weekend, hes in for Massa
Paul di Resta will race in the Hungarian GP for Williams after Felipe Massa withdrew due to illness.
Just remember to breath this weekend
what I saw of FP , they look pretty fast, still backing Lewis for this one.
He needs pole to equal Sch's pole record, added incentive for him.
qualifying about to start, lets see how fast Ferrari, really is.
apparently the Merc are struggling on the super softs, neither Lewis or Bottas put a proper lap together in FP3
Paul di Resta did not make it out of Q1 but to be honest , for somebody who 2 hours ago was talking on Sky Sports F1 did not expect anything else.
Ferrari and Red Bull look good.
feck! The sneaky british has woken up. Great lap.
doing what they do all the time , not giving their game away in FP.
Lewis really wants that pole.
Vettel with yet another track record
looks like Lewis is going for just one fast lap.
Lewis not doing in in Q3 P3 at best so far.
red lockout for the front row.
Lewis not happy with his car, Vettel looks very fast.
Unless Merc can sort out the vibration on Lewis's car, he will not be winning the race and Vettel will improve his lead going into the summer break.
Lewis not happy with his car, Vettel looks very fast.
Unless Merc can sort out the vibration on Lewis's car, he will not be winning the race and Vettel will improve his lead going into the summer break.
Yes! Two Ferrari in the first 2 positions! 