F1 2021 Season

[The Hilton]

Red Bull will find some pace by race day, they've been faster for most of the season, hard to see it falling away without explanation, especially with Max's new engine.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I doubt they would run it in FP1&2 and mileage to it? I reckon probably in for FP3 but I could be wrong.

My thoughts also, his times in FP1 are pretty quick.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Turkish GP Practice One Timesheet

Driver	Team	Time
1) Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	1:24.178
2) Max Verstappen	Red Bull	+0.425
3) Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	+0.476
4) Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes	+0.664
5) Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	+0.682
6) Esteban Ocon	Alpine	+0.731
7) Lando Norris	McLaren	+1.169
8) Pierre Gasly	AlphaTauri	+1.204
9) Fernando Alonso	Alpine	+1.205
10) Sergio Perez	Red Bull	+1.281
11) George Russell	Williams	+1.507
12) Daniel Ricciardo	McLaren	+1.572
13) Sebastian Vettel	Aston Martin	+1.632
14) Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo	+1.635
15) Nicholas Latifi	Williams	+1.685
16) Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo	+1.755
17) Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	+2.183
18) Yuki Tsunoda	AlphaTauri	+2.246
19) Mick Schumacher	Haas	+2.458
20) Nikita Mazepin	Haas	+2.841

 

[Maroon Lucifer]

[@dmotorsport] Michael Andretti buys Sauber and Colton Herta will drive for Alfa Romeo in 2022

Has this been confirmed anywhere else? Huge if true!

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Turkish GP Practice Two Timesheet

Driver	Team	Time
1) Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	1:23.804
2) Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	+0.166
3) Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes	+0.410
4) Sergio Perez	Red Bull	+0.569
5) Max Verstappen	Red Bull	+0.635
6) Lando Norris	McLaren	+0.721
7) Fernando Alonso	Alpine	+0.856
8) Esteban Ocon	Alpine	+0.868
9) Pierre Gasly	AlphaTauri	+0.952
10) Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo	+0.992
11) Yuki Tsunoda	AlphaTauri	+1.078
12) Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	+1.099
13) Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	+1.216
14) Daniel Ricciardo	McLaren	+1.256
15) Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo	+1.339
16) Sebastian Vettel	Aston Martin	+1.425
17) Nicholas Latifi	Williams	+1.503
18) George Russell	Williams	+1.554
19) Mick Schumacher	Haas	+1.676
20) Nikita Mazepin	Haas	+1.894

 

[pauldyson1uk]

[@dmotorsport] Michael Andretti buys Sauber and Colton Herta will drive for Alfa Romeo in 2022

Has this been confirmed anywhere else? Huge if true!

It would be huge, did a bit of digging round and found this.

Regarding Herta's superlicence situation, these are our workings after some kind corrections - correct these further if we're wrong and we'll update:

• 2018 Indy Lights - 2nd = 12pts. However, 0pts were awarded under the 2018 regulations, as this championship lacked a minimum of 12 drivers
• 2019 IndyCar Series - 7th = 4pts
• 2020 IndyCar Series - 3rd = 20pts
• 2021 IndyCar Series - 5th = 8pts

Best three of four years, 32 points out of 40 required

Please note that Herta could still achieve 40 points this year via the following clause:

A Free Practice Only Super Licence holder will be granted one additional point per FIA Formula One World Championship event following successful completion of at least 100 km during a free practice session, provided that no penalty points were imposed. A maximum total of 10 such additional points may be awarded per driver for free practice sessions over a 3 year period.

Or receive a special exception:

... Have scored a minimum of 30 Super Licence points but judged at the sole determination of the FIA as unable to qualify under any of a) to c) above, while participating in one or more of the championships listed in Supplement 1, due to circumstances outside their control or reasons of force majeure.

 

[Maroon Lucifer]

I don't follow Indycar, is this kid good?

 

[dinostar77]

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I don't follow Indycar, is this kid good?

Yes, 21 years old. 6 race wins and 7 pole positions I think. If I was him, I'd stay in indycar till I won the drivers title. Or not both with F1 at all. He can have a stellar career in USA.

Risk throwing away a very promising career to sit in the middle field / back of grid team. See Romain Grosjean. Stayed in a F1 backwater team far too long and wasted his best years.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

apparently 100% chance of rain for qualifying.

 

[rpitroda]

Norris Russell front row?

 

[pauldyson1uk]

queuing on the track is a joke again.
FIA need to sort this out or there is going to be an accident.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

some spinning on lap 1, too wet for slicks too dry for inters.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Lewis flying in Q1, .44 ahead of Max, but that will change.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

OUT IN Q1

16) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren

17) Nicholas Latifi, Williams

18) Antonio Giovinazzi, Alfa Romeo

19) Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo

20) Nikita Mazepin, Haas

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Q2 starts with many on the mediums.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

OUT IN Q2

11) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin

12) Esteban Ocon, Alpine

13) George Russell, Williams

14) Mick Schumacher, Haas

15) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari (No time set)

 

[rpitroda]

Given Hamilton is so strong here, I wonder why they took the penalty here.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Given Hamilton is so strong here, I wonder why they took the penalty here.

I can see why, new engine , this track is good for passing, I still see Lewis getting on the podium, so maybe damage limitation.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Five minutes to go in Q3, and Lewis Hamilton has just emerged out on track on his own...

All other drivers still in the pits.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Hamilton goes fastest with a great lap It's a 1:22.868, new track record

 

[pauldyson1uk]

The Red Bulls in white just look strange.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Bottas on Pole.
Lewis looks really fast, the race is looking like it could be excellent.
Lewis wont have it all his own way , the merc in dirty air is not always that good.
Max will not be happy, he would have wanted to be in front on Bottas.

 

[ZIDANE]

Mercs clearly faster and other than maybe Leclerc, Hamilton should be easily able to get through. Norris was a second slower! Perez as usual nowhere.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Lewis free to start on his choice of tyres, mediums seem like the best for the race, maybe he will go soft to start, hammer time then switch to mediums later.

 

[ArjenIsM3]

Mercs again the fastest cars on the track by far. Leclerc did well. He's got the upgraded engine doesn't he? Surprised McLaren were so poor. Not surprised Perez was poor as he always is.

 

[Buster15]

The Red Bulls in white just look strange.

Do you know the reason for the change?

 

[rpitroda]

I can see why, new engine , this track is good for passing, I still see Lewis getting on the podium, so maybe damage limitation.

I understand that. However, the way I see it is this - he has been dominant here enough to have a great chance of winning. The points gap between 1st and 2nd is 7 points, whereas the gap in points decreases between positions if you go further down.

I understand he has a great pace and it’s a good track to overtake but realistically he probably wouldn’t catch Bottas or Verstappen. Let’s assume Max wins for the sake of the argument and Lewis makes it back to second. He loses 7 points. Conversely Lewis doesn’t take the penalty and finishes first - he gains 7 points.

However if they took it on a track where he is already worse than Max because it favours RB, even if he finishes 6th, he would lose 10 points compared to second. Basically, to lose out the 7 points he is always scheduled to lose, he is better off doing so on a track he is worse at.

Let’s say Lewis takes the penalty here, comes second. Then the next track favours red bull, so he comes second anyway. That ends up as -14.

Let’s say he doesn’t take it here and wins. He goes into the next race which favours red bull at +7. He then takes the penalty at that track. To get to the same net position. (-14), and assuming Max wins, he would need to place only 8th to equal a net position of -14.

 

[rpitroda]

Do you know the reason for the change?

Homage to Honda I think.

 

[sun_tzu]

I understand that. However, the way I see it is this - he has been dominant here enough to have a great chance of winning. The points gap between 1st and 2nd is 7 points, whereas the gap in points decreases between positions if you go further down.

I understand he has a great pace and it’s a good track to overtake but realistically he probably wouldn’t catch Bottas or Verstappen. Let’s assume Max wins for the sake of the argument and Lewis makes it back to second. He loses 7 points. Conversely Lewis doesn’t take the penalty and finishes first - he gains 7 points.

However if they took it on a track where he is already worse than Max because it favours RB, even if he finishes 6th, he would lose 10 points compared to second. Basically, to lose out the 7 points he is always scheduled to lose, he is better off doing so on a track he is worse at.

Let’s say Lewis takes the penalty here, comes second. Then the next track favours red bull, so he comes second anyway. That ends up as -14.

Let’s say he doesn’t take it here and wins. He goes into the next race which favours red bull at +7. He then takes the penalty at that track. To get to the same net position. (-14), and assuming Max wins, he would need to place only 8th to equal a net position of -14.

Botas to ram max in the 1st turn... Lewis to come home on the podium with a new engine

 

[Buster15]

Homage to Honda I think.

Much appreciated.

 

[hobbers]

Botas to ram max in the 1st turn... Lewis to come home on the podium with a new engine

Bottas will take out Max and Leclerc and Lewis will win.

 

[The Firestarter]

Bottas will take out Max and Leclerc and Lewis will win.

After his post qualification interview It's much more likely he rolls the red carpet for Max.

 

[Cheimoon]

Do you know the reason for the change?

Homage to Honda I think.

It's a reference to the 1965 Honda car that brought Honda their first F1 win ever.

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

Do you know the reason for the change?

Homage to Honda I think.

Yep they're doing it this weekend as this was meant to be the Japanese grand prix - it's an homage to the cars in the 60s when Honda first joined F1 and a way of saying farewell.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Turkish GP Qualifying Timesheet

Driver	Team	Time
1) Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	1:22.868 (has 10-place grid penalty)
2) Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes	+0.130
3) Max Verstappen	Red Bull	+0.328
4) Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	+0.397
5) Pierre Gasly	AlphaTauri	+0.458
6) Fernando Alonso	Alpine	+0.609
7) Sergio Perez	Red Bull	+0.838
8) Lando Norris	McLaren	+1.086
9) Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	+1.437
10) Yuki Tsunoda	AlphaTauri	+1.500
Out in Q2
11) Sebastian Vettel	Aston Martin	1:24.795
12) Esteban Ocon	Alpine	1:24.842
13) George Russell	Williams	1:25.007
14) Mick Schumacher	Haas	1:25.200
15) Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	No time set (engine penalty)
Out in Q1
16) Daniel Ricciardo	McLaren	1:25.881
17) Nicholas Latifi	Williams	1:26.086
18) Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo	1:26.430
19) Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo	1:27.525
20) Nikita Mazepin	Haas	1:28.449

 

[17Larsson]

After his post qualification interview It's much more likely he rolls the red carpet for Max.

What did he say?

 

[Buster15]

Yep they're doing it this weekend as this was meant to be the Japanese grand prix - it's an homage to the cars in the 60s when Honda first joined F1 and a way of saying farewell.

Thank you for this.

 

[slyadams]

Does anyone think Valteri backed out of the last lap? Max had already finished and was 3rd, so Valteri was on pole, beating Lewis would have done nothing but push Lewis back 1 place.

 

[dinostar77]

Think Lewis should be able to the podium. 3rd or even 2nd depending on where bottas is.

I expect max to breeze past bottas on first lap.

 

[hp88]

Looks like they’re starting on Inters today