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If the engine is damaged in an accident, does the team get more than the 3 designated limit? Or do they have to work within it?
they work with it or replace it.If the engine is damaged in an accident, does the team get more than the 3 designated limit? Or do they have to work within it?
Ah okay. So if a driver is on his 3rd engine and crashes and damages it, he can't drive the remaining races of the season?they work with it or replace it.
Honda have said it can be repaired.
He will get grid penalty for every new parts beyond designated limit.Ah okay. So if a driver is on his 3rd engine and crashes and damages it, he can't drive the remaining races of the season?
Ah yeah of course! ThanksHe will get grid penalty for every new parts beyond designated limit.
I am not a fan of sprint qualifying, but Monza is the only circuit where it might actually work.Formula 1 has confirmed that Monza will host the sport's second Sprint Qualifying trial as part of this year's Italian Grand Prix.
I must be the only person that actually enjoyed watching the Sprint race at Silverstone. maybe its because i watch it on the PLCI am not a fan of sprint qualifying, but Monza is the only circuit where it might actually work.
He misses a very important comment from Masi in the conversation between Masi and Toto Wolff. " "Feel free to go upstairs and see the stewards directly."Horner is so far up his own backside.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/redbullracing/christians-column-british-gp-debrief
one thing we both agree on, well 2 thingsI am not a fan of sprint qualifying, but Monza is the only circuit where it might actually work.
Aren't they insured?
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Motorsport Insurance I seem to remember even at the bottom end is virtually impossible to get and when it is, incredibly expensive, I'm sure teams have to underwrite their own losses.Aren't they insured?
Maybe they don't want to loose their no claims discount...
Really beginning to dislike Red Bull.
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Feel the same. It's really bad form in my eyes, whinging that he's 16+ years experience and he shows himself and the team up like this. To me it smacks of immaturity.Really beginning to dislike Red Bull.
Such sore losers. Unprofessional levels of personal attacks iimmediately after the race. Then even days afterward they threaten legal action and run PR campaigns like this.
Disgraceful. Desperate.
That’s because there wasn’t a cost cap before? And I think Merc did it with Bottas/Russell earlier in the season to diffuse the issue between them both when they crashed.They must be feeling the pressure. I've never heard a team come out and say how much a crash has cost them in terms of money.
Threatening legal action against the stewards decision is not only creating an angle to get a potential pot of money. It is bad sportsmanship.That’s because there wasn’t a cost cap before? And I think Merc did it with Bottas/Russell earlier in the season to diffuse the issue between them both when they crashed.
Surely this is Red Bull simply trying to create an angle that they have been disadvantaged, you never know maybe there could be a central pot of money to cover damage where a driver has been given a penalty in future. They have a central pot of funding for damage in sprint races already.
It’s all just politics and there’s some sympathy as nobody likes to see an incident like that which impacts so much.
Nothing much will happen and they’ll get over it like F1 has many times.
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Yeah, they’re really not coming across well now.
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That’s always been the case in F1, they all do it and you don’t have to go that far back. Merc & Stroll challenged the new rules impacting low rake design and Merc for the decision around the rear wing flexing which I’m sure I read reports of potentially protesting as they allowed it in the next race still (Red Bull were going to counter with the Merc front wing flexing).Threatening legal action against the stewards decision is not only creating an angle to get a potential pot of money. It is bad sportsmanship.
I do understand and accept they should not have a cost cap impacted by crashes. But they have gone beyond.
No sympathy from me, their driver should have used some sense
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Poor billionaire tax dodgers.
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Yeah they need to let it go, they have a championship to win. Yeah I think Lewis was at fault, but ffs move on Red Bull, Mercedes hasReally beginning to dislike Red Bull.
Such sore losers. Unprofessional levels of personal attacks iimmediately after the race. Then even days afterward they threaten legal action and run PR campaigns like this.
Disgraceful. Desperate.
Totally understand and expect that. But Red Bull have made personal attacks, even in days following the race.That’s always been the case in F1, they all do it and you don’t have to go that far back. Merc & Stroll challenged the new rules impacting low rake design and Merc for the decision around the rear wing flexing which I’m sure I read reports of potentially protesting as they allowed it in the next race still (Red Bull were going to counter with the Merc front wing flexing).
True, even in the corners leading up to the crash, Weaving around 3 or more times when someone is going to overtake you is dangerous. He has done it for years.No sympathy from me, their driver should have used some sense
No it isn't. Breaking the tow is bog standard racecraft. You saw Fernando doing it in exactly the same way as Max's first lap in the sprint race on every straight.True, even in the corners leading up to the crash, Weaving around 3 or more times when someone is going to overtake you is dangerous. He has done it for years.
Unsure what the specific rule is on this? But it is certainly dangerous and unsportsmanlike conduct.
They changed the rule in 2017. Funny how they referred to it as the "Max Verstappen rule". Makes it pretty clear what he is doing.No it isn't. Breaking the tow is bog standard racecraft. You saw Fernando doing it in exactly the same way as Max's first lap in the sprint race on every straight.
Moving in the braking zone is dangerous and against the rules.
You are allowed to move across once aren't you or has that changed?True, even in the corners leading up to the crash, Weaving around 3 or more times when someone is going to overtake you is dangerous. He has done it for years.
Unsure what the specific rule is on this? But it is certainly dangerous and unsportsmanlike conduct.
Certainly was that.You are allowed to move across once aren't you or has that changed?
I'm talking about the pictures I posted where Max did not leave space at Imola and Spain in response to your assertions that Max's moves there were fine. You chose to ignore those completely.
So I guess that the overhead shot I posted, where Max clearly leaves space for Lewis down the inside, must have been photoshopped eh?
Or how about the FIA’s official verdict, where four drivers studied the incident and came to the conclusion that Max did in fact leave space down the inside?
Hilarious
This whataboutism is irrelevant because every incident is judged by itself.I'm talking about the pictures I posted where Max did not leave space at Imola and Spain in response to your assertions that Max's moves there were fine. You chose to ignore those completely.
I don’t particularly care what Rosberg or anyone else says. Plenty of people have solely blamed Lewis (Ricciardo, Button, Webber, DC) and I don’t find solace in people agreeing with me because I don’t think that appeal to authority is a valid argument.Oh, and Rosberg says racing incident.