I think that it needs to go to CAS if the fact that the race director can make the rules up as they go then you can't continue this as a sport. That needs to be challenged if nothing else.
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Yeah that's not going to happen let's face it. The FIA have had enough of him as champion.
It's Max's turn.
Mercedes' next moves are understood to be under discussion, with the team to inform the media when they have something to share.
Under the sport's regulations, competitors do have the right to appeal.
Under the sport's regulations, competitors do have the right to appeal.
Appealing again.
It already had that in 2008.
I'm a motor racing fan first and foremost. I cheer on the British drivers but I would've been angry today regardless of who win. A world championship should not be decided like that.
You are probably right but it’s the fact it’s the last race and we haven’t got F1 for a few months
It’s like City winning it in stoppage time
over the season i believe the best man won.
This is no sport what a dreadful advert for it
Even more embarrassing the people that can't put feeling aside and will just jump to defend their favourite this just shows the current mentality of the world as a whole no logic or reason applied.
Even more embarrassing the people that can't put feeling aside and will just jump to defend their favourite this just shows the current mentality of the world as a whole no logic or reason applied.
I’m blaming all this on Latifi, Horner doesn’t though.
I dunno... I mean would you trust winks and assurances from people who don't follow even their own rules
Better to pull.out last second and kill the competition... perhaps make a deal with formula e first that merc will join provided red bull cant just to show red bull and the fia how powerless they really are in a commercial world
With Russell coming in as well, he could have a challenger beside him and he won't want to lose to a teammate for a third time.
There's also no guarantee Mercedes will be as good next year.
I hope he does stay and would be great for him if he could beat Russell. This result might spur him on and be extra determined again next year
What a mess that was.
Forget who won, that race had more attention on it than any in about 20 years and for it to be decided by a farcical race director/steward decision... that's probably turned off 90% of the potential new fans they had in the making.
There is no way Michael Masi can continue in his position next season.
Forget who won, that race had more attention on it than any in about 20 years and for it to be decided by a farcical race director/steward decision... that's probably turned off 90% of the potential new fans they had in the making.
There is no way Michael Masi can continue in his position next season.
They cannot just "pull out" of contractual agreements without having financial implications (including sponsorships) which they will be unlikely to do in a Covid environment.
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Launching an intention to appeal, if/when they do, the appeal will bet rejected & it’ll go CAS.
Merc probably knew it will go to CAS and have to go through these steps to get there.
The best bit is from the ones 'I like both/support Verstappen more' that claim it was a shit decision but apparently he deserved it 'over the season'. When the hell did that become the measuring stick instead of points.This is no sport what a dreadful advert for it
Even more embarrassing the people that can't put feeling aside and will just jump to defend their favourite this just shows the current mentality of the world as a whole no logic or reason applied.
I swear, this is why people have trouble with logic - they just want it their own way. If it's for me, it's great even though maybe it wasn't fair.
I would love to see what CAS make of this since this is definitely one of these things that a court should be best to opine on (unfortunately). The Race Director has the discretion BUT was he right in using the discretion in the way that he did? Definitely something the lawyers will be salivating over.
People honestly talk of fairness in a "sport" that has the most financial disparity between teams?!
To conform with racing vocabulary, get a grip.
To conform with racing vocabulary, get a grip.
Lewis reminds me alot of Ronaldo. That kind of mental strenght you either build that early on in life or you may never find it.
I would walk away too. He clearly has given the sport everything he had and more. But what makes him so great is that each year he finds new ways to keep himself motivated.
Wonder if Horner paid him to do a piquet jnr
Red bull.. We need a micacle
Lattifi... hold my wallet... erm drink no deffinatly drink
Mercedes will do it just to drag the FIA through the mud.
mercedes won’t bite their nose off to spite their face. it’s a money game after all.
Honestly see no chance of them arguing against 15.3 at CAS.
While a ridiculous subarticle, I agree. I think that is key. Max is world champion.
Toto crying the name ‘Miiichaaelll’ was pure Hollywood
Dunno about that... and I know several who work for merc f1.... they are livid
Agreed but I also don't think a title should be determined by one race like Silverstone when one driver takes out another and the penalty received has no bearing and gains 25 points over his rival as a result.
There has been many bad calls throughout this season, including Lewis not being punished today. Bottais held up Max when Lewis was pitting last week, totally ignored by everyone, Hamilton pushed Verstappen off last week again no penalty.
Both drivers have benefited from poor decisions this season if people judge it objectively IMHO.
Yup. Don't worry about integrity and actual sport, let's argue over ridiculously powerful teams and drivers who are horrible peopleThis is no sport what a dreadful advert for it
Even more embarrassing the people that can't put feeling aside and will just jump to defend their favourite this just shows the current mentality of the world as a whole no logic or reason applied.
This was as in your face as it gets, yet people defend it. Sure all the teams benefit from dodgy shit, but the way that gets spouted with no thought of "hold up, this isn't right!" would be so hilarious if it wasn't the same in all other aspects of life, ones that matter way more.
yep. also means it’s not a sport, it’s just entertainment and what happens is what the race director wants to happen. that’s shit whichever way you cut it.
Article 15.3 that @hobbers put in looks like it was put in as a safety net in case there are any feck ups from the race director/FIA. I can’t see how Merc get anything when that rule is there. But it’s weird that they seem to contradict themselves
I mean just look at some of his powers according to this list
"The stopping of any car in accordance with the Code or Sporting Regulations."
And are you being objective?
He has been desperate to shit on Hamilton at every chance since he joined the Caf in 2008 so its no surprise.
Be very wary of what Hobs posts.
Also, that rule isn't black and white, in fact it's incredibly open to interpretation by CAS.
All he had to do was drive round the track and pick up another doughnut
Stick him on ignore like me, I sometimes have a look at his posts just to see how he’s managed to shoehorn Schumacher into yet another argument. Like clockwork at the last race too.
You can definitely argue “use of safety car” is exceptionally vague - to me it means when a safety car is to be used - the rules for the procedure of withdrawing are laid out clearly. They weren’t followed.
If they fail at CAS what's next, the US supreme Court?
We writing song now here
You're fecking joking right?
Max is the total baby. Lewis has been a gent this year.