Eckers99
Michael Corleone says hello
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The guy serves a purpose. And that purpose is to inflame and disappoint in equal measure.
Shame none of them ever ask him to control the ball.I remember reading the reason Fellani is popular with coaches is that he does whatever they ask him to do. He is a fifth choice that will play to exactly what José wants, he is also a nuisance (not always brilliantly but you know what I mean) for other teams ,so in essence he would be a plan c or d . don't see him ever being a starter in big games again but I suppose he would be fine to be a squad player . We need to invest in other areas so I'm fine with him (not ideal but feck it) use the money on bigger fish for more pressing matters .
this. We seem to forget that SAF gave the likes of Phil Neville, John OShea, Quinton Fortune and co tons of games despite not being exactly great in playing football. They were the Fellainis of their time.
No they weren't.They were all better than Fellaini though. Not one of them was as ineffectual and pointless as Fellaini.
I see. Yes I agree the Martial situation is unrelated.I don't mean Jose OR Martial. I mean both Jose AND Martial.
"X happens in our club, this is unacceptable from the club and Jose. I mean just look at how He handles Martial. Jose does this and that to Martial". It's like every player's situation is related to Martial's situation. The fact that Martial is "allowed" (which by the way, is paper's bollocks) to leave has nothing to do with Fellaini signing a new contract. Different situation, different players, different positions, different fees.
Martial's situation is the go to card for people when They start moaning and complaining about the club's decision. And also Martial is still our player. When in doubt, start typing Jose does X to Martial, to show how angry you are about the current situation which is totally irrelevant.
Read the post at the top of this page FFS. And the posts on the last page. Does it need to be f*cking pinned? Martial has been offered two contract extensions. He has rejected both of them. The club and manager want him to stay. Martial wants to leave. It's not complicated.Another Mourinho masterclass where Martial isn't in his plans but we have begged Fellaini to stay.
Where are the Top reds that wanted Martial to feck off because he was disrespecting the club by not being satisfied by a place on the bench and what do they think about the Fellaini situation? Held the club hostage and openly made it clear that he was off if he could find any club that could match his desired salary and yet we are desperate to keep hold of him.
I think we have to still be in the market for an attacking right sided player otherwise one injury or suspension to Fred and we are right back to the midfield of last season. The young kid we signed might offer more attacking threat from full back when and if he plays, but we still need more from that side. As others have said, the supposed keeping of Fellaini is most likely so Jose can spend in other areas, and I'm hoping right wing is one of them.Him getting a new contract, on what is seemingly United's terms, is not that half bad. But, this probably means that there'll be no more investments in midfield, so I guess this is not an ideal situation.
If so, then it's all up to Fred to bring the midfield that balance it needs.
The bolded aren't good enough and the underlined are unproven. We have a lot of players but we don't have a lot of quality.Pogba, Matic, Fred, Lingard, Herrera, Pereira, McTominay, Fellaini
If Fellaini earns a place, it's ahead of a healthy list of competition. I'm fine with it. Now we can spend more on that winger and CB
Aha, by midfielders, I was thinking about CMs (like I don't think we're after Kovacic or any like him).I think we have to still be in the market for an attacking right sided player otherwise one injury or suspension to Fred and we are right back to the midfield of last season.
Hallelujah, totally agree. I see some here relaying just way too much on the full backs for challenging up the wing and providing crosses into the box. We really know nothing about Dalot and Valencia showed this past season that he his no real attacking threat up the wing (bar volleys outside the box).The young kid we signed might offer more attacking threat from full back when and if he plays, but we still need more from that side.
Never heard, never thought about. That's a really good point! Back to Kovacic muppetryAs others have said, the supposed keeping of Fellaini is most likely so Jose can spend in other areas, and I'm hoping right wing is one of them.
That’s different. That would be like Jose throwing Smalling or Rojo up top. Which no one would complain about. He didn’t keep a player for the sole purpose of throwing him up front out of position to win a game. Unless I’m forgetting someone. Then feel free to corrrect me.The same Sir Alex who'd shove Bruce or Pallister up top for the last 5-10mins of games? Lets not make out he was a purist, probably his ability to change and do what was necessary is what got him over the line where playstyle purists like Wenger failed.
Harsh on those guys .These guys performed much better and cost the club nothing whilst I’d imagine being paid as squad players.this. We seem to forget that SAF gave the likes of Phil Neville, John OShea, Quinton Fortune and co tons of games despite not being exactly great in playing football. They were the Fellainis of their time.
At the time we signed him there was, we had players like Rafael, Nani, Cleverley et al who were regularly getting kicked from pillar to post and getting little to no protection from the Referees, it was Fellaini's job to protect them, he did that - there weren't many team taking liberties from then on, but moaners gotta moan.People are moaning because he’s not good there, not because of a midfield role that they want field. Fellaini is the problem, not the qualities people want in the position.
You're making a different point to what you originally asked now. You asked who & what was Sir Alex plan B in those comebacks, with a sarcastic tone. Implying his teams wouldn't resort to a direct approach if our usual style wasn't going to get the result, which I pointed out he would and often did.That’s different. That would be like Jose throwing Smalling or Rojo up top. Which no one would complain about. He didn’t keep a player for the sole purpose of throwing him up front out of position to win a game. Unless I’m forgetting someone. Then feel free to corrrect me.
Am I? Phil got England knocked out of a major honour and nearly costed us the treble when he hacked an Arsenal player in the box at the FA cup semi final replay which Schmeichel and then Giggs turned around. OShea was squad player at his very best.Harsh on those guys .These guys performed much better and cost the club nothing whilst I’d imagine being paid as squad players.
Am I? Phil got England knocked out of a major honour and nearly costed us the treble when he hacked an Arsenal player in the box at the FA cup semi final replay which Schmeichel and then Giggs turned around. OShea was squad player at his very best.
PS I am no fan of Fellaini either.
Fair enough. Although I’d argue that was probably his plan C or D. Don’t remember too many times Stam,Rio and Vidic were sent up top to get a result. Bruce & pallister are a little before my time.You're making a different point to what you originally asked now. You asked who & what was Sir Alex plan B in those comebacks, with a sarcastic tone. Implying his teams wouldn't resort to a direct approach if our usual style wasn't going to get the result, which I pointed out he would and often did.
As for Mourinho keeping Fellaini around only for a plan B, I doubt thats quite the case considering he's started Fellaini in too many games across the last 2 years for him to believe him so one deimensional, rightly or wrongly, you'd answer he'd be wrong to think that way and I don't have any interest in arguing the opposite.
The only difference with Fellaini is that there's no Keane, no Scholes, no Giggs, no Ronaldo, no Stam, no Rio, no Vidic and no Cantona to bail him out every time. I mean do you really think that the average United fan would even notice him if we were winning EPL titles and CL titles? As long as honours kept flowing in no one would even bother. FFS Most of us didn't even notice United's steep decline in quality as the likes of Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs, Rio, Evra and Vidic were being systematically replaced by the likes of Valencia, Cleverley, Young, Smalling, Jones and co. We only realised the damage when the bubble burst and we kept on constantly ending up in the positions this team deserved to end.Can't disagree with that.
Can we get him playing the piano with his elbows for social media please?
We've been here before mate., yet his last few appearances for Belgium(albeit as sub) have been in the no.6 role, and he'll probably play there if he comes on against England later on today.Mate you know thats not true, or you should do. Do your own research he's probably played less than half his career matches as a DM. And most of those were in Belgium and his early years at Everton, he's rarely played the position at United. And thats 5 years of his senior career.
He wouldn't, just like Eder who has actually done that isn't considered a GOAT for Portugal. He would be loved and much more appreciated for surei know right, what if Belgium goes through WC final and Fellaini scores their winning goal ? He would be considered as Goat for his NT, nobody could say Mourinho was wrong in renewing his contract.
Not sure about this at all.Some utter melts in his thread. Fellaini is not going to come with a fee, and will be 5th or 6th choice. He'll play in the early rounds of the cups and the dead rubbers in the league and CL. He also has competition with McTominay, who already looks on a similar level to Fellaini.
Fellaini would start at a mid table club (Arsenal were actually considering going for him, so he might even make it at a top 6 club at a stretch). So he is the right level for us as a squad player.
The signing of Fred has ensured Fellaini will not play an important part unless we get an injury crisis in midfield.
Yeah thats great but he hasn't played 90% of his club and international career as a DM, though has he?We've been here before mate., yet his last few appearances for Belgium(albeit as sub) have been in the no.6 role, and he'll probably play there if he comes on against England later on today.
Fellaini’s chest control is the best in the entire world. In many games where our defence get pressed, Fellaini’s chest became the only outlet for De Gea to punt long balls.Shame none of them ever ask him to control the ball.
What exactly did he say about the club?Some chap on twitter nicely summarised it.
Can't argue against any of that.
Blind has no pace, Blind cannot even intimidate a schoolboy of 15. Blind is weak in duels or 50-50. Blind doesn’t score often. The only football attribute Blind has over Fellaini is passing the ball.Shocking decision by the club. I would rather let Blind play in a midfield three than letting this shower of s*ite anywhere near our squad
Okay, 90% of his International career, and 71¼% of his club careerYeah thats great but he hasn't played 90% of his club and international career as a DM, though has he?
Moyes predominantly used him as an attacking mid/second striker during his management of Everton, he then used him in an identical manner when he took over at United. LVG and Jose followed suit. I can't speak for his time with the national team as I rarely watch Belgium play.Yeah thats great but he hasn't played 90% of his club and international career as a DM, though has he?