If you mean the Premier League.One of the best footballers of the twentieth century .....but what a nasty fecker
That context is not needed. He's one of the best wingers of his generation.If you mean the Premier League.
Just mean in general. I’ve always considered him world class.If you mean the Premier League.
Since when did not having a defence see a Welsh coach sacked?Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
But if it turns out to be true then he has to be sacked. He'll have no defence.
A decent effort, worth a minor chuckle.Since when did not having a defence see a Welsh coach sacked?
Yeah he does. The younger one has autism and it seems to affect him quite a lot. Strange diet, always wears headphones to stop noise.Oh, maybe he has another son? His elder one gets caught up in some awful situations quite often.
I actually heard somewhere that his son was on a spectrum. Imagine my surprise when I had googled Scholes' son and Arron came up!Yeah he does. The younger one has autism and it seems to affect him quite a lot. Strange diet, always wears headphones to stop noise.
I follow Scholes on instagram, which is acceptable stalking.
And I said that while knowing absolutely feck all about this current situation. Let's appreciate the athletes and sportsment that they are and just stop at that.A lot of people need to take these lessons on board and internalize them. Regardless of if this accusation is true or not. We DO NOT know these people. We do not know who they are as human beings. We know what they can do with a football and that's it. We need to stop idolizing them as humans. Separate the footballer from the person.
When you shag your brothers wife for years and occasionally drive her to the abortian clinic and this?Just goes to show you really never know a person. This takes absolutely nothing away from what a marvelous player he was for us, but the stuff with his brother, and now this, if it's true, it really gives a different impression to what you would have guessed.
Sometimes not having morals is worse than certain crimesLike many have said innocent until proven guilty and you can't allow him cheating to cloud your judgement. That's an entirely different matter and also not a crime. A shocking thing to do to your own brother, true, but not a crime.
If he is found guilty of this charge though his career in football is done. And so it should be.
Serial philanderer who even had an affair with his own daughter's school teacher? (allegedly)These United legends are no good.
Only one I rock with is Beckham
No physically attacking your gf, if its true, is worse than cheating in every single sense of the meaning. Even if you did the dirty on your brother, hitting a woman is surely worse right?Sometimes not having morals is worse than certain crimes
If it's a weak slap then cheating is much worse. You have to measure it first. I can see him being quite weak actually he's ancient and has lost a lot of calcium due to shagging.No physically attacking your gf, if its true, is worse than cheating in every single sense of the meaning. Even if you did the dirty on your brother, hitting a woman is surely worse right?
I disagree. I'm not saying cheating is cool because it isn't. Certainly not with your brother's mrs as that's much worse. But I reckon there's probably 1 in 3 relationships countrywide, maybe even more, where at least one of the couple has cheated. It's probably closer to one in two in reality.If it's a weak slap then cheating is much worse. You have to measure it first. I can see him being quite weak actually he's ancient and has lost a lot of calcium due to shagging.
Let's not get into grading levels of physical assault or comparing them to cheating.If it's a weak slap then cheating is much worse. You have to measure it first. I can see him being quite weak actually he's ancient and has lost a lot of calcium due to shagging.
Wait what? When? Beckham is a brand and I am sure he has cheated but just curious as I haven't heard thatSerial philanderer who even had an affair with his own daughter's school teacher? (allegedly)
They're all cnuts, with the probable exception of Juan Mata.
While I completely agree with you that we shouldn’t generally view footballers as role models, I don’t think expecting someone not to assault their gf is a good example of being held to the highest moral code. I also don’t think someone growing up poor and uneducated means they’re suddenly going to be an abusive prick and I find that view pretty insulting.What’s this got to do with football? Sick and tired of people holding uneducated poorly raised people (in this instance footballers) to the highest moral code. No footballer should be looked at as a role model. They are no more than entertainers like a clown in a circus but much better paid.
I agree. It's a pretty low moral code if you ask me and growing up in a low income family doesn't have anything to do with it.Don’t know the full story but if he is guilty I hope he’s immediately sacked.
While I completely agree with you that we shouldn’t generally view footballers as role models, I don’t think expecting someone not to assault their gf is a good example of being held to the highest moral code. I also don’t think someone growing up poor and uneducated means they’re suddenly going to be an abusive prick and I find that view pretty insulting.
TBF with stuff like this, being a mega celebrity comes with it's pro's and con's. When you're approached every single time you step outside your private zone, you can't except celebs to have unlimited patience. that's not to excuse his affair with brother's wife or alleged girl-friend beating.
Don’t know the full story but if he is guilty I hope he’s immediately sacked.
While I completely agree with you that we shouldn’t generally view footballers as role models, I don’t think expecting someone not to assault their gf is a good example of being held to the highest moral code. I also don’t think someone growing up poor and uneducated means they’re suddenly going to be an abusive prick and I find that view pretty insulting.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment to a certain extent, I don't care from what walk of life or what industry, if you are convicted of beating up a woman (he hasn't been yet!) then you deserve the sack.What’s this got to do with football? Sick and tired of people holding uneducated poorly raised people (in this instance footballers) to the highest moral code. No footballer should be looked at as a role model. They are no more than entertainers like a clown in a circus but much better paid.
Just google Rebecca Loos.Wait what? When? Beckham is a brand and I am sure he has cheated but just curious as I haven't heard that
No I'm not saying he's guilty but people will think the worse of him because of what he has done in the pastRhodri’s wife willingly allowed and wanted the affair, he didn’t physically abuse her. I‘m not Defending his past behaviour, but just because he shagged his brothers wife, doesn’t mean he’d physically assault his new partner. Trail by the media and people who love to pry into others personal lives shouldn’t be as wide spread as it is.
Beckham is all strictly controlled to maintain brand Beckham hollywood crap. Cantona is a genuine real bloke, a true legends, wears his heart of his sleeve and conforms for no one, love him to bits. Not sure how 'these United legends are no good" generally they're decent humans, the odd bad apple as always, but no more so than any other people.
As for Giggs, let's all remember this is only on suspicion. I have no idea why there's such a will to believe any negative news about him?
Hang on.....are you implying that Beckham is only a nice person because he wants to protect his public image?Wait what? When? Beckham is a brand and I am sure he has cheated but just curious as I haven't heard that
Totally agree. Was always Giggs and Cantona for me growing up, worshipped them.He is responsible for my overall cynical view of footballers these days and how they should never be seen as role-models, or be automatically seen as nice people.
Grew up with Cantona and Giggs as my favourite Utd players and were to me what people would consider role-model-like. It’s just Cantona now.
The fact he’s been suspended from the upcoming internationals makes me think it’s serious.
Depends, I think his brother is worse off after 8 years of lies and betrayal than a woman being hit once in the face.No physically attacking your gf, if its true, is worse than cheating in every single sense of the meaning. Even if you did the dirty on your brother, hitting a woman is surely worse right?
well then, don’t know what she’s complaining about thenI met him after a match once and he was fine with me.
Sorry you feel that way but it’s a fact.Don’t know the full story but if he is guilty I hope he’s immediately sacked.
While I completely agree with you that we shouldn’t generally view footballers as role models, I don’t think expecting someone not to assault their gf is a good example of being held to the highest moral code. I also don’t think someone growing up poor and uneducated means they’re suddenly going to be an abusive prick and I find that view pretty insulting.
One of those actions is a criminal offence. One of them is just a damn right lousy thing to do. People cheat all over the place. You probably have experienced either in your own life or in your family somebody has. We all have experienced it.Depends, I think his brother is worse off after 8 years of lies and betrayal than a woman being hit once in the face.
