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[Rood]

Some brief thoughts on the lay of the land regarding the takeover and the transfer market:
(a) The share price at NYSE is $19 for a Man Utd share. If Sheik Jassim match Ineos' bid it should be $35-40 and if Ineos win the auction it should be around $12-15 (as before the takeover talk started, since Ineos won't buy the NYSE shares). Anyone with insight into the takeover talks and a lofty conscience could hence easily 3-4x an investment in a matter of weeks (if you know Ineos is winning, you can short the share). It is of course just guessing -- but I don't think anything is "done" yet. On avg., it's said that about 40-50 percent of Takeovers leaks before they are announced which also is my experience. At this stage with multiple bidders and so many people involved, it is just unlikely that we won't start to get leaks as soon as the odds really starts tilting in any direction. I don't think anything is done right now.

Don't understand why you think the share price will be double/triple if Jassim wins as opposed to INEOS?

It won't be as the price will be mostly set by whatever price the Glazers agree to sell at - there could then be some difference since Jassim commits to buy all the shares but it won't be anywhere near that

The rest of your theories are possible but complete speculation and much of it based on info from questionable sources (El Pais etc)

 

[Nou_Camp99]

I know what he meant, but the Glazers deserve no credit. As if we should be grateful they didn’t pocket the whole bloody lot. Oh thank you kind Glazers for allowing the club to spend a fraction of the revenue generated. And we’ve had plenty of barren transfer windows where the funds weren’t available. They are parasites.

We've spent as much as City have. Lack of transfer funds is not a thing we can throw at them. We've spent more than enough to compete.

What we've done is wasted it and they have to take the blame there because ultimately they decide who are the people who are spending it and they have the ability to replace somebody like Ed Woodward and they didn't

 

[Water Melon]

Yeah, I can imagine the scenes.

"Yo, Joel, have you been reading that Man United message board?"

"Avram, nobody has used message boards since the mid 2000s. Anyway, what are they saying?"

"Some people are upset about us selling to a nation state and others are upset we might sell to someone who isn't a nation state"

"Maybe we shouldn't sell then?"

"And miss out on $6bn?"

"But the message board"

"Good point."

Thank you Sir for your humour. You made my day.

 

[Von Mistelroum]

Probably because it's not a sale of a bag of crisps. It's an asset worth 5bn plus. These things take time.

Don't see them staying tbh. Not after going this far with the process. The fans will riot like never before if they don't relinquish control now.

I think it's over for them we just got to wait for everything to be sorted officially. Our CL place not being secure until last night could have been one of the things holding up the deal too.

They definitely won't though. There'll be a few yellow and green scarves extra and that will be that. The Glazers know this.

 

[ScarleyUtd]

Not defending the Glazers, but they have spent a lot of money, just a shame they and their appointees were so incompetent that the majority was piddled up the wall.

'They' haven't spent any money. Enough said.

 

[DOTA]

They definitely won't though. There'll be a few yellow and green scarves extra and that will be that. The Glazers know this.

What makes you think this? It's really not that long since we saw robust enough protests to have games postponed.

 

[gajender]

What makes you think this? It's really not that long since we saw robust enough protests to have games postponed.

It won't be allowed to happen again they will be better prepared for it this time around and threat of serious legal action against protesters would be used to dissuade them .

 

[El Zoido]

We've spent as much as City have. Lack of transfer funds is not a thing we can throw at them. We've spent more than enough to compete.

What we've done is wasted it and they have to take the blame there because ultimately they decide who are the people who are spending it and they have the ability to replace somebody like Ed Woodward and they didn't

I don’t disagree we’ve largely wasted it, I just take exception when people say the Glazers have spent money just because we’ve bought players for £80m+. We bought those players with revenue generated by the club. The club spent money, not the Glazers.

Transfer spend is only a fraction of the bigger picture. We might have matched City on transfer spend, but they’ve spent hundreds of millions on their facilities and infrastructure, and hiring top class off-pitch personnel & staff, whereas the Glazers have left us to rot. Saying we’ve spent as much as City is hugely misleading, they’ve spent significantly more on the club as a whole. It’s all vitally important.

 

[Stinkypete]

What makes you think this? It's really not that long since we saw robust enough protests to have games postponed.

The super league protests were driven by a main stream media narrative in between covid lockdowns. Less security in place, more easily riled up folks. Its that simple.

 

[Godfather]

So nothing happening today either then? Or do we still expect some news?

 

[Giggsyking]

Not defending the Glazers, but they have spent a lot of money, just a shame they and their appointees were so incompetent that the majority was piddled up the wall.

"They"
that is why we are swimming in debt?

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

So nothing happening today either then? Or do we still expect some news?

Hopefully there is some news on who the expected bidder is but don’t hold your breath expecting it, especially after how long these leeches have dragged this whole process along for everyone.

 

[Messier1994]

Your the Swedish Rumble guy from Twitter?

The one and only!

 

[Syphon Wallet]

The Guardian is certainly not reliable. I've friends who work there


Appreciate the in-depth post.

Reading between the lines I get the impression/feeling that it boils down to this:
If Ineos wins the bid, the Glazers get more money initially, get to stay on, but Jim won't go mental with the spending regarding transfers/stadium etc

If Jassim wins the bid, the Glazers don't get as much money, get kicked out the club, but will be like a kid in a sweetshop buying players/new stadium thereafter.

I could wrong, haven't had my morning cuppa and Weetabix yet, but that's what it sounds like.

You've got it totally backwards, at least according to the general reports we are getting.

They get less money now with Jim, but potentially more later.

They get more money now with Jassim, but nothing later.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

I don’t disagree we’ve largely wasted it, I just take exception when people say the Glazers have spent money just because we’ve bought players for £80m+. We bought those players with revenue generated by the club. The club spent money, not the Glazers.

Transfer spend is only a fraction of the bigger picture. We might have matched City on transfer spend, but they’ve spent hundreds of millions on their facilities and infrastructure, and hiring top class off-pitch personnel & staff, whereas the Glazers have left us to rot. Saying we’ve spent as much as City is hugely misleading, they’ve spent significantly more on the club as a whole. It’s all vitally important.

Nearly every club in the world spend 'club generated money'.

People have it in their minds that what's happened at City, PSG, Chelsea and Newcastle is normal. It isn't.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

The super league protests were driven by a main stream media narrative in between covid lockdowns. Less security in place, more easily riled up folks. Its that simple.

@Stinkypete did you manage to shag Dobby in the end…?

 

[Sir Erik ten Hag]

Nearly every club in the world spend 'club generated money'.

People have it in their minds that what's happened at City, PSG, Chelsea and Newcastle is normal. It isn't.

United's fall from grace these last 10 years isn't normal.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Another day of absolutely nothing. Soak it in.

 

[edgecutter]

It'll happen after Sunday at the earliest. No way they say who the winner is for fans to kick off at old Trafford. They'll wait till the Fulham game is played and then we should here.

Also, feck the glazers.

 

[Berbaclass]

I think it’s fanciful we’ll get news today , the very earliest the Monday after the FA cup final, the very earliest.

Did Zeeshan tell you that.

 

[devilish]

The one and only!

you're becoming popular here

 

[Blood Mage]

Now we have CL football I imagine the parasites will be holding out for even more money.

 

[Infra-red]

So nothing happening today either then? Or do we still expect some news?

I don't think there will be stories pre-empting any announcements. There will be simply be a statement released by the club if/when there is a preferred bidder/deal. It absolutely could still happen later today, or next week, or next month (or indeed never) - I expect it will come out of the blue if/when it comes, rather than being telegraphed in advance by the media. If any agreement is reached, the Glazers will want the official announcement out there quickly, to prevent any leaks and ensure the company directors remain compliant with their reporting obligations to NYSE/SEC.

 

[Spoony]

you're becoming popular here

That's his bird's channel.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Oh god, not Alice.

 

[Hoof The Ball]

Oh god, not Alice.

Right?

The only one I genuinely like is Flying Pig United.

 

[VP89]

you're becoming popular here

Please don't say you actually watch this shit

 

[Pexbo]

Delaney proven to be an absolute blagger. Hope people are giving him shit for it.

 

[Tiber]

Delaney proven to be an absolute blagger. Hope people are giving him shit for it.

His account should be on the banned list

 

[DOTA]

Why do you all hate the pink lesbian?

 

[Messier1994]

you're becoming popular here

Thanks, that is pretty cool, I admire her show and style.

 

[devilish]

Please don't say you actually watch this shit

Not really no. However I was attracted by the title and at the moment I was switching to something else one of our own was mentioned. Thus I felt I post it here for Messier to see.

 

[Pexbo]

His account should be on the banned list

Agreed along with Ben Jacobs

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

If we hear anything today I wouldn't expect it to be until tonight as typically throughout this process, it's been Friday evenings we hear updates but in reality I doubt it will happen tonight....

So basically, BIG evening ahead

 

[DOTA]

If we hear anything today I wouldn't expect it to be until tonight as typically throughout this process, it's been Friday evenings we hear updates but in reality I doubt it will happen tonight....

So basically, BIG evening ahead

Last Friday was utterly disappointing, I will not be impressed if once again we are left to amuse ourselves without any new articles to play with.

 

[croadyman]

If we hear anything today I wouldn't expect it to be until tonight as typically throughout this process, it's been Friday evenings we hear updates but in reality I doubt it will happen tonight....

So basically, BIG evening ahead

Yeah feels like week after Cup Final to me

 

[Woodzy]

Shit is going to hit the fan this evening.

 

[croadyman]

Shit is going to hit the fan this evening.

So you think Ratcliffe with the two leeches

 

[Adisa]

Nothing is easy or smooth with this club.

 

[Licha M]

Shit is going to hit the fan this evening.

Based on?