Yeah it’s a massive shame but I think different people will come to different stances.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) discuss United's progression to the FA Cup Semi Final after a crazy win over Fulham at Old Trafford. They also talk about the latest on the sale of the club and whether they would prefer to be owned by Jim Ratcliffe or Sheikh Jassim. But before all that they are joined by special guest Natalie to discuss Man Utd Women - who are currently riding high at the top of the WSL. Can they actually win the league?
Groundhog Day
All right Hear’say, calm down!
The latest numbers show PSG to be still behind us.
Only slightly! They’re expected to overtake us next time. Do you think that is legitimate income?
nah it’s more repetitive than that in here
Not if billions are being pumped in to pay for infrastructure that the club itself should be paying for.
I assumed that's what you meant mate but if someone is paying for a new Stadium etc instead of it being funded from the clubs own profits. Then that isn't the club being self-sufficient in any way, shape or form.
More revenue is more revenue.
I imagine some of their revenue is also inflated with 'favorable sponsorship deals' yes.
Groundhog half hour!nah it’s more repetitive than that in here
And there’s no Bill Murray to lighten the mood. Reckon some of this lot are secretly in love with each other though. The old treat ‘em mean to keep ‘em keen vibe going on.nah it’s more repetitive than that in here
Definitely, it’s purely because everyone is different by nature. Everyone will live their lives in the best way they think. One can only do that much when trying to persuade the others to join them. If failed, just get along or stay away. So what, right?
but, I still think you can continue to support man utd. Well, I am not trying to persuade you.
Okay, I should have said self sufficient in the transfer market then. The Qatari could put nothing into that side of the club and we could still go out and spend 100-200 Million per season. Just like we have done in previous years under the Glazers.
Ok I admit, I’ve secretly had a crush on @Berbaclass since last summers Frenkie thread. He broke my heart when he denounced the deal and said he didn’t care anymore!!
Sorry you're right, I was being quippy. But yeah it hasn't been defined how United would be cheating if the Qatari's take over.
so you think City and PSG have cheated with inflated sponsors but in some cases the exact same owners won’t do that with us?
What on earth are you talking about?
As @Wumminator will tell you, I often say things which I don't mean.Ok I admit, I’ve secretly had a crush on @Berbaclass since last summers Frenkie thread. He broke my heart when he denounced the deal and said he didn’t care anymore!!
Give me a good reason why they would need to?
Explains a lot. Moving on….
Why would they cheat the revenue to compete with the team they cheated the revenue to compete with in the first place?
The reason they’re pumped the numbers for those clubs is because they can’t compete with the likes of United in regards to spend. They wouldn’t have to fake United’s numbers to compete with themselves would they?
The only reason they’d need to that I can think of is if they have to build a brand new stadium, but I’m not 100% familiar with how FFP is structured so I could be wrong
Them paying off our debt and for our stadium is literally levelling the playing field. If the Glazers hadn't done what no other owner in club football has done by a long, long distance, we wouldn't be in a position to require super wealth just to continue existing in our current guise as a major club.
How this simple fact can be lost on any fan supporting United, let alone someone who is actually very engaged and on this forum is beyond my comprehension.
Shit like this is what I'd expect from Jenas and the other ABUs in the media.
Well our revenue is behind the revenue of City. By about 50 million. Shall we just leave us behind them then?
Well yeah? They’ve just been caught cooking the books and are being charged with that. Meaning that won’t be true for long anyway.
We gave away £1.5 billion of our own money because of those feckers. All rightfully earned too. If you ask me getting a stadium paid for and wiping the debt is pretty fair, I don't consider it 'cheating' I think it's justice really.
It's not genuine mate. Ours is.
they’re being charged for deals up to 2018. There lastfinances are apparently perfectly legitimate.
You lot discussing politics and human rights like it fecking matters. Glazers will sell to ISIS if they offered more.
Because they stopped providing documentation from that point. You better believe there will be more charges after that date when they finally get their hands on the documentation. There’s nothing legitimate about anything they’ve done.
Fair enough yeah and the less the club have to spend on infrastructure the more money there is to spend on players.
So still not self-sufficient.
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but you get my point don’t you?
you’re saying our owners won’t cheat because we don’t need to. Well. We sort of do as we are behind sportswashing teams. And our owners have done this type of cheating at other clubs. Every sportswashing club has.
If Qatari bid is successful, even without injections of massive money to the club, the revenue will likely bump up significantly in a few years, because they plan to transform the tourism and business infrastructure of Manchester and produce the affiliates around world. It will put the club in the pole position financially to compete with the others with sustainable business model.
Not really no. We aren't really behind City are we if their numbers are total bullshit. We generate more revenue than PSG so we are not behind them either.
Also, CL money is 50m a year. Football club revenues are quite often a one-zero thing. It's not normal business
Oh wait the Glazers took money out of United? Who knew?
I'm obviously well aware what the Glazers have done. But the Qataris or anyone pumping billions into the club isn't levelling the playing field it's financial doping mate.
What the Glazers did to United was scandalous, it cost the club a lot of money and its shit but that's life and shit happens. I personally want United to be truly self-sufficient again and that would mean not having a sugar daddy buy the club a brand new stadium. Or anything for that matter, if the new owners got rid of the Glazers debt and left it at that United would be fine. The club doesn't need a sugar daddy.
Psg and mancity actually are the real examples how their revenue can explosively increase even though they have some degree of inflation as everyone believes. But, the real, not inflated portion must be significant as well by common sense.
It's amazing you can read what I wrote and still respond with this. I'll stop here.
Well maybe you're just easily amazed mate.
If Wumminator had responded to said supporter unprovoked then you would've had a valid point.
However that's not what happened. He hadn't been active on the thread and was then tagged (i.e. goaded) by that supporter...leading to the first derailment of the thread which included your warning.
Best to get your facts right first before wearing as a badge on honour.
I think the Qataris will be great for the local economy.