He's no leader.
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He could be somewhere though and the problem is he is never where the danger is
How I feel about him.
The danger for the first goal was when both Lindelof and AWB didn't prevent the ball from crossing. What we want from him is to be everywhere. Yes we can easily post some photo of how he is looking somewhere else and troll him but truth is he was not at fault for the goals. Could he have done better or something different, maybe but again to say he was at fault for either goals is just harsh on him.
Maguire isn't the problem he allows us to play out from the back, AWB however...
Maguires passing wasnt very good
Yes he can, very well for a CB as it goes.
@UNITED ACADEMY you are right about Maguire’s positioning for the first goal. He was in place to cover a cut back. Williams was out of position to cover Suso.
Keep up the good fight!
Keep up the good fight!
Was fine it always is, he's a cool head.
DDG and AWB cause all the panic as they are gash with their feet.
Was fine? He gave the ball away even from our own free kick thus inviting pressure
according to some source he played the most minutes of any professional team in the world or something.... questionable. but unquestionable is
1) he has been an ever present, which is so valuable
2) we have the most clean sheets in the big five leagues over the season
for me been a good success. accountants can come on and say he was good but 62.32m good not 80m good, whatever, he has helped take us to a new level, hope he has another gear in him again.
to argue with this people will typically point to specific moments, but these don't matter much when that big picture is so positive
1) he has been an ever present, which is so valuable
2) we have the most clean sheets in the big five leagues over the season
for me been a good success. accountants can come on and say he was good but 62.32m good not 80m good, whatever, he has helped take us to a new level, hope he has another gear in him again.
to argue with this people will typically point to specific moments, but these don't matter much when that big picture is so positive
He played well.
Hard to judge him when he is having to work alongside lindelof!
Maguire moved toward the crosser, so William moved to cover the obvious threat. Maguire ended up didn't do anything. Just like that 'almost goal' by Ayew against Crystal. He's also defending so deep, leaving everyone onside.
That was unreal like what was he even looking to do with that ball?
Williams moved to cover what Maguire was already covering, realized he made a mistake too late so couldn't stop the cross nor the shot. Not on Maguire.
Watched the clip. Maguire moved toward the crosser, and left that center striker alone. It prompted William to cover the most threatening player, which was the center one. And then DDG was easily beaten (again) on his near post.
No Maguire moved to cut the passing lane to said center striker. At that point the cross across the face of goals was a far bigger threat than the cutback which Maguire was likely to get a foot to.
Get rid of him!!!!
If he's not man marking our own players, he's not cutting out crosses... and for the love of god his headers on corners are terrible.. it's like he just tries to hit them instead of using his brain to help guide it on target.
Leicester ripped us off. Fleeced us.
He's our captain too. Wow. Shambolic.
If he's not man marking our own players, he's not cutting out crosses... and for the love of god his headers on corners are terrible.. it's like he just tries to hit them instead of using his brain to help guide it on target.
Leicester ripped us off. Fleeced us.
He's our captain too. Wow. Shambolic.
Bizarre to blame him for the goal. He did the only thing he could and that was to mark the only guy in the box. Williams clearly had a brainfart and went to the wrong guy.
He didn't need to move. If he didn't try to predict the pass he would have been in position to cover the striker and the ball across goal.
Yes, but people are obsessed with blaming him. Especially the Lindelöf fanboys need to repair their ego after the second mistake and blame Maguire somehow. They know we are after a CB to replace Lindelöf, but need to drum up negative press for Maguire to protect the other guy. Most annoying thing on the forum. It is about Man United, and not single players. For some, some players are bigger than the club, at least in their support.
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Not at all his fault for the first goal, he was covering the striker.
I didn't like what I saw from his last night regarding his leadership. Two teammates arguing and he is not taking control and watches like bystander. Also went into headers that were not his therefor being beaten couple of times. He can and must do better.
Wait what ? What is this conspiracy peddling ?
Some people are just one of a kind.This guy is first name on team sheet along with Bruno.
He’s not perfect but he is generally excellent. Take him out of the team and we will be very flimsy defensively and in terms of a base for starting play at the back.
It was said earlier in this thread that he is never where the danger is. That’s because he mostly makes dangerous situations look benign. The defence should all look as though they are never in danger - that is the quality you want from the defenders as a unit. And Unit is the operative word. The problem is the unit is incomplete because Shaw is injured too often and Lindelof is not good enough.
Harry absolutely is not the problem.
He’s not perfect but he is generally excellent. Take him out of the team and we will be very flimsy defensively and in terms of a base for starting play at the back.
It was said earlier in this thread that he is never where the danger is. That’s because he mostly makes dangerous situations look benign. The defence should all look as though they are never in danger - that is the quality you want from the defenders as a unit. And Unit is the operative word. The problem is the unit is incomplete because Shaw is injured too often and Lindelof is not good enough.
Harry absolutely is not the problem.
You need to stop it seriously he was clearly marking nobody was close to nobody was looking at nobody and he does that a lot
Yeah sure. Hes been so good since the restart and the crunch part of the season
You're obsessed mate, the only one mentioning Lindelof is you
I don't know why people are trying to pin any of the goals on him? First goal, imo, is mainly on AWB and Pogba not tracking their fullback. Second goal is AWB and Lindelof.
Would prefer if Maguire could start hitting the target with his headers though...
He was in the right position to cut out the pass to the striker in the box. I don't know how deeper you want him to be. Williams was obviously the one who should be guarding the far post.
I didn't understand the fee we paid him last summer, and I still don't see how the scouts and Ole saw a £80m defender in there.
He's a good defender, who is above average on the ball and can stay fit for a season.
Making him the captain is a mistake too, I see no leadership from him at all. He looked lost out there, doesn't organise defendence the way should be doing.
Spent £80m to get a slightly better version of Smalling and we wonder why where we go wrong as a club.
He's a good defender, who is above average on the ball and can stay fit for a season.
Making him the captain is a mistake too, I see no leadership from him at all. He looked lost out there, doesn't organise defendence the way should be doing.
Spent £80m to get a slightly better version of Smalling and we wonder why where we go wrong as a club.
and who should then cover the player in the penalty box?
The man at the far post is Williams job.
A tall defender with flat head
But otherwise he is a consistent defender mostly without brainfarts, without injuries. That is a precious comodity these days.
But otherwise he is a consistent defender mostly without brainfarts, without injuries. That is a precious comodity these days.
Maybe he should request Ole to change who should wear the captain armband.
Fake leadership.
He did fine today, not really at faults for both goals.
Fake leadership.
He did fine today, not really at faults for both goals.
People trying to blame him for the goals
Williams 1, Lindelöf 2. It’s that fecking simple, if those pair do the very basics, they don’t score.
I thought Maguire was generally very good last night. Lindelöf was too for the most part and I’m not a big fan of his.
Williams 1, Lindelöf 2. It’s that fecking simple, if those pair do the very basics, they don’t score.
I thought Maguire was generally very good last night. Lindelöf was too for the most part and I’m not a big fan of his.
So many idiots out there trying to blame maguire for the first goal.
please make yourselves known so I can add you to the blocked list. I can’t believe there’s so many people who don’t know how to defend.
please make yourselves known so I can add you to the blocked list. I can’t believe there’s so many people who don’t know how to defend.
The saw a post by a Liverpool fan of Maguire looking back and united fans are jumping on it.
Just poor understanding of football from fans is incredible.
people like this guy below, wtf do they expect? Maguire knows the striker is on the edge of the box and be positions himself perfectly to stop the cross being cut back to him. When the cross comes in he turns to look at him to make sure he’s still covered - he was. If williams did his job and stayed with Suso instead of running towards the same striker Maguire is marking the goal doesn’t happen, simple.
you seriously need to give your head a wobble.
Who is the danger in this situation? The man on the edge of the box or the open space?
This is a clear example of fans watching football without ever playing the game. A CB does not always have to mark someone when the cross comes in, you position yourself in a way you think the ball will be crossed, cutting out a low cross or anything near post. The ball went back post where Brandon was.
It is quite weird how Maguire is criticised for not marking someone when it is Brandon's marker who scores the goal anyway?
The fact is though is genuinely is marking somebody, the striker is waiting at the edge of the box and he’s blocking the ball getting to him. He’s in the perfect position, if he moves closer to the goal to stop the ball going across it they’ll just pull it back to the striker for a tap in.
In the box you mark the man not the space, which is exactly what lindelof failed to do for the 2nd goal.
yes as you say these people don’t play the game and don’t understand the small details that make a big difference.
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