For 80 million he is the worst Manchester United signing in our History.
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Had a nightmare both on the ball and off it, think its safe to say he wasnt right to be picked in this match and if we had quality on the bench he should have been replaced. But we didnt
The bolded part really isn’t highlighted enough. He’s had so many poor displays & moments but for some reason people’s memories don’t work with him as they do with other squad members.
He was at the time & has proven to be, a poor allocation of funds. Decent EPL CB, elevated when played in a 3 but nowhere near good enough 1-on-1 for the top level, his positioning for their 4th goal was unforgivable but he’ll have a decent game against a Newcastle then people will forget the dross.
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We had Bailly?
He had a mare yesterday. But he clearly wasn't fit and was rushed back.
Obviously he was nowhere near match sharp and shouldn't have been played.
3rd best CB at the club now for sure. The first goal was bad, but the Vardy goal was even worse. Thats not fitness sharpness issues, that’s simply making a dumbass decision like he so often does. His positioning has always been bad but yesterday was next level bad.
Very very bad performance from him, he didn’t look fit. Was he rushed back?
People on here love to jump on him though. He was by far our best defender in a good season last year after the poor start. Look how our season fell apart when he was missing. I’m still confident him and Varane will be a good pairing
People on here love to jump on him though. He was by far our best defender in a good season last year after the poor start. Look how our season fell apart when he was missing. I’m still confident him and Varane will be a good pairing
He clearly wasn't match-fit. Who is more at fault in this situation? The player who wasn't ready, or the manager who started him and fed him to the wolves when he had just come out of injury?
I understand some people say Ole doesn't trust Bailly but he trusts Maguire. Yet for all of this supposed "trust" that Ole has for him, he was at fault for most of the goals conceeded. I'd be curious to see how much worse the players that he doesn't "trust" would have done.
The excuses just go on and on. Waiting for someone to say it was windy next and the wind pushed him out of position so he couldn't move forward
What was he even doing?
Get rid of Lukaku and then buy the Lukaku of Defenders
we're fecking cursed
we're fecking cursed
You know in cartoons when someone tells the guard ok don’t get distracted. Then a butterfly or something lands on their nose, flutters around their head then flys off distracting the them. I would like to think this is what happened to him a few times yesterday and if someone could photoshop that in to the two day dreaming incidents that would be great.
Anything else and I’m going to get ranty about how he is prone to these brainless moments.
He was shit yesterday truly shit. Still a solid defender and under a new manager he'll come better.
Bailly just signed a new 4 year deal didnt he.
I imagine Ole asked him "do you feel ready?" And Maguire said he was, so he played him. A player worth his salt will always want to play so Ole should have had some balls and taken the decision away from him and let him train for a week for Liverpool.
Conjecture, but that's how I imagine it went.
What an average defender he is. He’s been average since Hull, Leicester and here. The hype around this guy is very hard to understand. What about him screams a great defender? because he can clear the ball with his head waywardly? There no aim to his heading whether it’s defending or attacking. His ball playing abilities are overrated. Bailey, Varane, Lindelof are all better with ball on their feet.
There are no great defenders in England so the one how is a little good is overhyped. I mean the England defenders are Stones who can’t get a game at City, fecking Mings, Coady etc.
I will take Ogbonna, Rudiger, Matip, Dunk over Maguire any day of the week. I will literally pick 20 defenders in the premier league before him. He plays like he owns the place when he’s not even that good and that’s what baffles my mind. A weak wannabe captain.
Before people use injury as an excuse, he’s been shit all season and has never ever been consistent since we signed him and to give him the captaincy was a very big joke.
There are no great defenders in England so the one how is a little good is overhyped. I mean the England defenders are Stones who can’t get a game at City, fecking Mings, Coady etc.
I will take Ogbonna, Rudiger, Matip, Dunk over Maguire any day of the week. I will literally pick 20 defenders in the premier league before him. He plays like he owns the place when he’s not even that good and that’s what baffles my mind. A weak wannabe captain.
Before people use injury as an excuse, he’s been shit all season and has never ever been consistent since we signed him and to give him the captaincy was a very big joke.
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that this level of atrociousness was because he was rushed back when he shouldn't have been starting yet (Ole does have history with that unfortunately with Rashford and Pogba being obvious cases), but he has been poor all season.
I was hoping that the second half of last season was the start of him becoming a consistently dominating force in our backline, but the start of this season has gone straight downhill again. If he continues playing like this I hope Ole does give Lindelof the chance to stake his claim when Varane returns.
I was hoping that the second half of last season was the start of him becoming a consistently dominating force in our backline, but the start of this season has gone straight downhill again. If he continues playing like this I hope Ole does give Lindelof the chance to stake his claim when Varane returns.
I am befuddled at why people even talk about Maguire's ability to bring the ball out when he literally just runs up to the midfield point with the ball and.. that's bringing it out..?
There was also dumb praise for Rio about his abilities but it never came close to DM level on the ball.
I think when we look at Chiellini, Bonnuci or Carvalho then those really count as elite on-ball level for defenders. Chiellini at 37 outplayed the entire England defense at the Euro finals, in the second half and in extra time he basically played as an LCM of sorts and play maked.
There's such a gulf and we've been desperate to call our defense great. We don't have a single defender that combines those qualities.. if we had one who defended like Varane but played forward like Lindelof, then maybe.
As it stands I'm confident history will not remember Maguire 2018-2021 as any sort of phenom defender, certainly not at the level of Rio/Vidic/Terry/VVD.
There was also dumb praise for Rio about his abilities but it never came close to DM level on the ball.
I think when we look at Chiellini, Bonnuci or Carvalho then those really count as elite on-ball level for defenders. Chiellini at 37 outplayed the entire England defense at the Euro finals, in the second half and in extra time he basically played as an LCM of sorts and play maked.
There's such a gulf and we've been desperate to call our defense great. We don't have a single defender that combines those qualities.. if we had one who defended like Varane but played forward like Lindelof, then maybe.
As it stands I'm confident history will not remember Maguire 2018-2021 as any sort of phenom defender, certainly not at the level of Rio/Vidic/Terry/VVD.
He is like how I usually defend in FIFA game.
To be fair he was good last season, and has a really great Euro tournament in summer. But for some unknown reason, he has been playing like the worst CB in the league this season, and resemble the likes of a sunday league defender at times.
To be fair Maguire is very good at finding our fullbacks/wingers in space out wide. A lot of our good attacking moves start when he finds Shaw or Rashford in good positions on the left. He doesn't really do it to the right, but whether that's because of Maguire's limitations or whether it's because the well-documented limitations of our right side attack, I'm not sure.
Other than that I do agree he's nothing special on the ball. He's a surprisingly good dribbler considering his build, but he rarely actually uses it so there's no real point mentioning it.
Lindelof is kind of the opposite. Most of his passing is also nothing special, but the one thing he is very good at are those long balls down the middle of the field that drop in between the defenders and the keeper.
As for Rio, he was strange in that his ball-playing abilities massively declined as he got older. He started off very good. Even by the mid-point of his career (in what was otherwise his prime years) he was only 'good' at best, and then by the end of his career he was downright average.
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The flogging of Maguire here is way over the top, but going into the game yesterday Harry should have told the manager he wasn't fit to play. That's a failure of leadership that's no doubt spawned by desperately wanting to help the club -- but when you're not fit you need to own up to it. There's no dishonor in that whatsoever.
I hope the tw*ts heaping abuse on Maguire and granting us the benefit of their football knowledge are spotty 14 year olds. He is a decent defender, a worthy captain. Ole at fault for playing him when he was clearly not fit.
fecking shocking. United should use what is left of its influence, if any, to push for a refund policy.
80Ms of the queen’s finest. I’ll never get over it.
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Eh, no. He’s made himself available when Varane is out despite not being 100% fit. That shows a ridiculous amount of commitment. The blame lies squarely with Solskjaer for picking a player that had only started training on grass 24 hours before the game.
My god, that looks progressively worse and hilarious with each viewing
Highly overrated (only in England). Equally shared blame with Ole for starting if unfit. He’s an adult and a professional, if he says he is fit or agrees to play then he should be expected to perform.
His one strength that is far above average is aerial play (maybe not yeaterday, but normally). The rest is average.
His one strength that is far above average is aerial play (maybe not yeaterday, but normally). The rest is average.
The mistakes he made at some of the goals cannot be blamed on fitness imo. Look at the video posted how he acted at the last goal. Or the giveaway at the first goal. Has nothing to do with fitness. It’s simply very bad form atm. Our defence was poor also when he played with Varane, just that they mainly played middle to lower table teams.
100% agree with you. Upto the manager to make those calls. Unfortunately we have a manager who believes a player can play elite level football after one training session
‘But it was one game’, ‘it’s all knee jerk reactions’
Good Heavens. I never fancied it to be this bad.
Now if it was SAF I do not think he would have played him but certainly now because he is under the cosh, he would have sent him on leave to relax for a week or so. I remember him sending big Pete to the West Indies for a break.
I appreciate people are saying he was rushed back, but he surely has to have some responsibility for putting himself forward to play when he clearly was way off it?
He has been the worst defender in the league this season.
I think he's the wrong man to wear the captain's armband. He doesn't, in my opinion, show leadership qualities. Both Bruce and Vidic captained United from the middle of the defence and each led by example. I can't remember either player going missing during a match and both were always in the thick of the action, shouting and organizing. Look at videos of these two in action; always looking and anticipating not only what the opposition players were doing, but their own team mates. I don't see Maguire doing much of that, at least consistently.
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Bah, video deleted. Showing a view of 4th goal from stands. He just stood there letting the defender go past
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