Papers saying we're hoping to get £40m for him in the summer. Good luck lads, wouldn't want to be the guy that has to hear the hysterical laughing on the other end of the phone when they ask "how much?"
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
- 17
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 9
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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It helps that he only played against shit opponents or came in the 2nd half to ask for his armband when everyone on the pitch had run 12 kilometres.
It would be amazing if Tottenham moved for him and had a CB pairing of him and Dier.
But in all seriousness I see him going back to Leicester.
But in all seriousness I see him going back to Leicester.
Newcastle, Leicester, West Ham or Everton. Hopefully one of them is daft enough
Leicester just signed Souttar who is a fairly similar player while being 5 years younger. He's impressed in early days so if that continues they certainly won't feel the need to bring the original version back. Certainly wouldn't be able to play them together unless you want what is quite likely the slowest centreback pairing of all time.
"When this player has not played regularly we don't win trophies... That player is.. PHIL JONES,"
Your desperate attempts to repeatedly try and bring Varane down to Maguire’s level is as comical as Maguire’s performances.
Unironically he would suit Spurs play.
(Insert jokes of being a bottler fitting in)
As Conte's teams play on counters, as long as one of the 3 CBs is smarter, Maguire would fit in or it would give space and time for Maguire to hone and develop what is clearly some talent for passing forwards.
I called it along with others about Maguire's inability to THINK well at the highest level and it hasn't improved. He is of course a good solid defender but for the highest teams in a highline/dynamic back 4 he is more of a liability with his plodding thoughts on the ball, lack of crisp passing regularly and his Chucklevision moments.
Chris Smalling was always the better defender and the misplaced faith in Maguire adapting to a higher dynamic backline in a back 4, cost Ole his job.
I will always support him as I do all of our players but Maguire is now seeing what actual meritocracy looks like. What I am baffled by is the complete blanket obfuscation/excuses of his calamities. If he was called Harold Miguel and was from Portugal, he would have been crucified by the British Press. He has immense media management. and I would love to have his agency finding me a job.
At this stage SadleMUFC must have some personal connection to Maguire; As many have asked before, what would Harry Maguire have to do for him to admit he isn't the most elite defender for our first 11 regularly?
Not trying to pile on here, but that’s a bad comparison to make, considering Maguire also had 0 key passes despite having so many touches.
Just be happy he’s finally stopped passive aggressively incorrectly spelling his name as “Verane”
Lisandro didn’t make 3 passes which went to the opposition and led to an attack on our goal. Stop being so in denial.
I said he made 127 passes after having 139 touches. In order to make 139 touches (almost 60 more than the player witht he 2nd most touches) he has to be receiving the ball from his teammates. So if Maguire was so bad, why did they keep giving him the ball? And I never said he was MOTM or anything like that. Just that he had a good game. A solid 6 or 7 out of 10. But the way people act it's like we tied Leeds 2-2 at home and it was all Maguire's fault. Oh wait...that was the game he didn't play
It isn't. It actually proves my point. The guy I was talking to complained because Maguire's 86% passing rate wasn't good enough and he didn't do anything special with the ball like Martinez did. All i did was prove that Martinez didn't do anything special with it either as claimed
Wrong again...I have no problem with Varane. I think he's a great player and he should be starting ahead of Maguire. I just don't like it when our "fans" go out of their way to put down our own players. I am merely pointing out that if Maguire had played like Varane did midweek that TheCaf would be going into meltdown. Instead, Maguire captained the team to a clean sheet and 3 points and people are still going off on him. They are literally looking for reasons to hate on him
Because Leeds left our centre backs to have the ball? All we did was cycle it side to side but rarely forwards. Did you even watch the game?
Having many touches isn't a sign of having a good game.
Yeah, imagine the players passing the ball to a teammate who is under no pressure. Unheard of crime!
What were they supposed to do, ask him to leave the field and play with 10?
Was Maguire in effective with it, or were the players he passed it to? He passed the ball 127 times. More than anyone else. And he did so with 86% passing efficiency. But you want to blame Maguire because his teammates kept giving him the ball
Yes, Maguire made a mistake, which he then made up for by catching his man, then putting the tackle in, won the ball, then passed it off to restart our attack. In the end, he made up for what he did wrong. Isn't that what we want to ask of our players? But go on....dwell on that initial play because that's what fits your agenda
Wow!
127 times you say! With 86% efficiency?
That's remarkable.
Does that brainfart on which Harrison almost scored in the 34' count in that 14%?
So you think that during the week the Leeds interim manager used his game time preparation to concentrate on how to play against a guy who rarely starts? Now I've heard it all
Yes. He made a mistake.
A mistake that leads to a goal.
He does that every single game he plays.
He was lucky Harrison fumbled that chance, just like Bruno fumbled our chance when the Leeds defender did the same thing.
Should we praise him for the recovery? God no, the recovery itself was as slow as you can be.
It was horrible.
Dwell on that?
Of course i'm gonna dwell on that when you say he had a great game and "didn't make a mistake the whole game bla bla bla".
One of the reasons he's on the ball so much is because instead of moving it quickly he dallies around and then finally plays the ball he should have played ten seconds ago and the receiver of that pass (often full backs) have no real option but to just pass it back to him. That's if he doesn't take so long that he's either dispossessed or forced into an error. Not much effective about his stray long passes either.
People (him especially) need to forget the idea that he's good on the ball.
Fans aren’t that stupid or vindictive that they will hate on one of our own players for no reason. You’ve always been stuck with this narrative thinking people just hate him on a personal level. Which leads to you defending him irrationally.
The truth is Varane and Maguire are totally different levels of ability and quality. The reason Maguire gets blasted is because he consistently does stupid things, makes mistakes or gets exposed for his weaknesses. Even if Varane had an absolute shocking game, he wouldn’t get the same hate because he doesn’t do it consistently. It’s abnormal for him to have a bad game. But it’s become normal for Maguire to make mistakes or cause chaos in our team. He just isn’t good enough.
Yes fans can be excessive in their criticism but Maguire never does anything to get the fans back on side and that’s largely because hes incapable and doesn’t have the ability to.
@GifLord please can you post a clip of that 88th min incident in United box? Just watch Harry. Reason why he gives me nervous breakdown.
That’s actually horrific! And then people wonder why we get pressed by every team when Maguire plays. That pass map is just asking to be pressed.Spot the main difference.
I don’t know which incident you are talking about but I’m pretty certain it’s Harry looking around frantically to see where he dropped his contact lense!
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First he tried to pin down a leeds player while a shot was taken. Hit his hand I guess. They appealed for handball. Meanwhile, harry lost the vision of the ball. He turned full 360 degree to find where it is. While he was at it another leeds player shot the ball. Was going in but took a deflection off United player. Another Leeds corner.
So, by that rationale, if Harry was our starting CB, we would have 7 points less in the league.
5th, on par with Tottenham.
It was classic Maguire. He honestly gives me anxiety when I watch Utd. When it’s Varane and Martinez I’m comfortable even when it’s just them 2 at the back and everyone else has bombed forward. Maguire makes me tense all game.
Seriously flawed stats.
A big reason is because Maguire only gets chosen when we are playing weaker teams. He’s kept well away from the difficult bigger games wherever possible.
Maguire would have made zero positive difference to our losses at Man City and Arsenal. He would have made it worse.
It was pretty much common knowledge he was going to be playing Sunday.So you think that during the week the Leeds interim manager used his game time preparation to concentrate on how to play against a guy who rarely starts? Now I've heard it all
It was a fairly simple game plan to instill. When they have the ball press so that it goes to Maguire, let him have it and watch the magic happen.
Same here. Don't care how others try to justify him but when he plays it becomes health hazard for me.
Nouuu!!
Now i've heard it all!!
Pressing triggers and traps?!
From a team formerly coached by Bielsa? Never in a million years would i think that the Leeds players would deliberately leave Harry with the ball!
Our Harry?!
Lies.
Maguire made more passes? Not sure what you're trying to point out hereSpot the main difference.
Yes, because if there's one thing ETH is known for it's his squad rotation
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