That’s why Aussies genuinely dominated for a decade and won three consecutive world cups without hardly breaking a sweat, no passengers or leeway for past greats. Can somebody do the job better than this guy? Yes. Then replace him
ICC Cricket World Cup 2019
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Yeah I'm sure that's a sweetener to the defeat for you.Definitely in different conditions at a different ground you're capable of turning anyone over, including us of course. For the sake of the tournament I hope you stick with Pant, get him some games and he'll be great, and that Rahul either shapes up or is replaced, but for the sake of England I hope you don't!
It would be very us to win this one then get eliminated by NZ, so I'm certainly not relaxed about that last round-robin game just yet.
On top of that, Australia have that knack of coming good for tournaments, just like Germany do in football.
Kohli didn't defend him? Didn't he say that MS was trying to hit boundaries?
Pity no India fans called up and made these points.
Looks like you edited your post significantly, which kind of reinforces the view of some Pakistan fans that India threw the game.
There was a view that India wanted to preserve their run rate, with qualification being in the bag, because their bottom 4 are rubbish with the bat. I'm an England fan, but I am starting to think the victory was, perhaps, a bit hollow.
Don't be silly ffs. On a flat pitch, England are a better side.
Nothing hollow about the victory.
Nrr qualifications are not affected if we lose by 30 or 60, it's averaged out over the entire tournament and 30 runs less makes nearly no impact.
We didn't throw it with Pakistan in mind. We were bit shit and England were better.
Question to everyone blaming the afghan captain, did Kohli fixed the match?
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Not sure which part you think I've edited (I haven't edited anything in this post) but Why would me or any fan editing a post (if I did) reinforce anything? Why would my opinion count towards what Team India have done or not done today?
In past he has given the excuse of NRR. This time he said it is upto the two batsmen to explain why they played that way. So may be excuses why they could not score but not the style of batting.
India chasing a big total vs Gulbaddin screwing his team when they were winning, not sure thats the same thing.
Not that I think it was fixed, more like he was trying to be a glory hog.
Kohli is one of Thalatards isn't he?
There are arguements and counter arguments.
Vaughan and the Indian presenter on 6.6 made perfectly valid points. Equally, the Pakistan supporting callers may just have been sour grapes, because it makes it more difficult for them to qualify, and there is, shall we say, animosity, between the two countries.
It would have been better if some Indian supporters had called in, although I didn't listen until the end.
Afghan captain didn't fix the match, he just had a higher opinion of his own abilities than reality proved.
Think Dhoni's reputation is kind of affecting the expectations from him and the fact that the rest of the lower middle order can't contribute much isn't helping either . He has somehow ended in this team where Jadhav is completely out of touch , there is no regular number 4 and the bowlers are hopeless with the bat which puts a lot of responsibility on him and he just doesn't have it to be that guy anymore. He could play as a wk who helps with tactics and who bats a bit but India can't be expecting him to win matches with the bat . If he does it that's great but it's going to be rare
Someone quoted your post and there were significant differences to the post I saw.
See the post from @12OunceEpilogue above.
Afghanistan defending a small total vs India scoring 27 off the first 10 overs = screwing over the team.
Like I said yesterday, the people saying he had fixed the match were being stupid yesterday.
I know, loads of posters here were convinced he had fixed the match though who are pretty quiet today.
In general, yes. Dhoni backed him heavily early on in his career so he is never going to drop him.
There are still loads who believe that Dhoni is our best option as ODI wicket keeper. I don't know what's wrong with them.
Maybe Dhoni wants to preserve his 50 average until he retires? Could explain why he's so risk averse these days.
I think that not many people here actually believe that Gulbadin fixed the match . It's more like the decisions were so bad that I would much rather say that it was fixed rather than believe that someone could be that stupid
There is zero chance that Dhoni plays for India after the WC , for the first time I have seen that he is having physical issues and just isn't that fit anymore. His wicket-keeping isn't the same either and he will 100% retire and play IPL for a couple more years
Kohli just met a better side on a flat pitch which excuses the first and last 10 overs. Gulbad however failed to win from a winning position against a worse* team.
*according to his CEO
I think it’s a bit unfair to talk about throwing the game when England were comfortable favourites after the first innings...
India have never chased an ODI total that high outside of their own country. It was a big ask and the odds were never in their favour.
Its the same unless you care to reveal what you thought you saw.
Right... then there were 40 overs left after those ten.... vs Afghan spinners bowling brilliantly and pak batmans looking like kids trying to figure out which delivery it was, then gulbaddin came in and gave away 18 runs when he didn't need to bowl himself. That took all the pressure off pakistan and all they needed was run a bowl after that.
Both weren't fixes and they are not the same thing, Strange argument.
Sorry, I fecked up
But still, the fact that losing doesn't bother you because
which is exactly the point being made on the radio.
I agree on that atleast.
The mistake was not having a Bengali in the side. Should have picked the legend Saha.
after ganguly it's been dinda and saha
Ganguly was class, favourite indian cricketer by far.
No idea who dinda is.after ganguly it's been dinda and saha
If he’s doing that at the detriment of his country’s chances of winning a World Cup he’s a vile cnut
I wouldn't say loosing today didn't bother me, ofcourse it did (I've posted lots of comments moaning about the pitch being in Englands favour from previous pitch at this ground as I wanted us to win) but we lost, so no point crying about it....Move on, better team won.Sorry, I fecked up
But still, the fact that losing doesn't bother you because which is exactly the point being made on the radio.
Look for positives in defeat (one of them being Diminishing chances of Pakistan progressing, as a rival their fans would have the same opinion in a similar situation as would any English and Aussie fans), fortunately this defeat for us isn't as bad because we're in a good position but I still wanted us to win.
Of course other fans might have a different opinion from mine but that doesn't mean team India shared their opinion.
Dinda is that bowling machine isn’t heGanguly was class, favourite indian cricketer by far.
No idea who dinda is.
I was just checking the numbers from India Vs England last year and Dhoni scored 37(59) and 42(66) in the 2 games he batted it and India lost both of them . India actually hit 2 sixes in those 2 games and those were by Shardul thakur. So today wasn't much different to that
The best thing happening to England was Bairstow's interview of complaining about the pitch. There is a reason many including a lot of Indian fans were saying england are the favorites because no one can beat England in a batting paradise. They have been preparing and playing on these type of pitches for last 2 years atleast. This is why Bairstow played the whining card.
Also, heard Kohli's post match interview. It was petty but I also think his frustration was also with the pitch and which is what he kept on referring flat tracks and changed deck from previous match. Ofcourse you won't expect kohli to directly question the pitch but it was clear how the pitch was going to be the moment Bairstow's interview came. I would not be surprised if we see mostly flat decks for England's remaining games. Making England favorites again.
Also, heard Kohli's post match interview. It was petty but I also think his frustration was also with the pitch and which is what he kept on referring flat tracks and changed deck from previous match. Ofcourse you won't expect kohli to directly question the pitch but it was clear how the pitch was going to be the moment Bairstow's interview came. I would not be surprised if we see mostly flat decks for England's remaining games. Making England favorites again.
You said this a few times in this thread, I doubt ginger northerners have much of an impact on ICC directions on groundmen. This is up there with Gulbadin being on Pakistan's payroll.
Are you ok mate, this is only the 37th time you’ve mentioned this today?