I’m not saying they planned on such a thing from the outset. I’m saying they threw the match away at the end. There was no intent to win that game towards the end despite it being winnable.
Now instead of saying "India definitely threw that match" which would have to emcompass Kohli or else he's as supposedly dumb as Steve Smith, it's "Maybe Dhoni and a couple of others decided they'd rather throw the game". Still doesn't sound plausible let alone absolutely the only logical reason behind this.
He does it alot. He is just not the kind of finisher he used to be.
If you look at my initial post at no stage did I say they definitely threw it because of a particular reason. I merely speculated as to what that reason may be. Your Dhoni angle might indeed be the most reasonable and it would still lead to the same conclusion - he didn’t go out there to win when batting at the end. That’s still the same as throwing the game even if it is for a more selfish personal reason.
Not really the same as that sort of thing happens in cricket all the time. Once a team realises that the chase is beyond them they don't always go for it and crash out all out. I mean Bangladesh and Afghanistan against England never once decided to go for the score they were set.
What gets missed is that even at his peak Dhoni wasn't winning a lot of games chasing down 10 an over for a long period. Dhoni started off as a guy who could hit big shots,run crazy fast and was incredibly smart thus keeping the required run rate always in check . Then he developed this other style where he would just try to take games deep and hit big in the end . Now he still tries to take it deep but his hitting ability has gone down and he can't win too many games . At no point though was he really winning games from 100 needed from 10 and stuff
Trust me had India got all out under 250 and lost in ahuge margin the same.people would still have complained. People would have criticized india's performance irrespective of how we lost. This performance was no different to what Australia did against India with warner and his slow innings.
It's completely disrespectful you're right.
So NZ did well to get to a score that preserved their RR but India should have got 250 all out chasing 340 thereby losing by 90 runs or whatever? Seems a sound logic
Exactly. People should watch a rerun of the last 10 overs of India batting. England had us completely tied up. You can criticize Dhoni for giving up, but we'd have lost either way imo
India didn't throw the game, but you could see that the intensity wasn't there. We are in a good position to qualify even without winning this game, as long as the run rate was high. You could see how this played into Dhoni's calculations when things became really diffcult. If India was desperate then you would've seen Dhoni slogging much before the last over instead of taking inane singles.
It will take another generation to completely get rid of seniority mentality. MSD should have hung up after 2017 CT. Pains to see someone like who has already established in Tests and T20s not given any opportunities in ODIs and now thrown into it at the end moment . And on the other hand Raydua and Rahane are nowhere to be seen who were supposed to the leading personnel for middle order.
Honestly don't see England beating NZ.
They can only manage to stay awake for 10 overs before getting dazed again. Should stick to T20s.
Strike of 77 last year as a finisher (may have been 2017).
I take it back although I will still take it over our lower order batsmen.I mean he is saying its poor sportmanship from India which I agree with, not even trying to win the game counts as exactly that. He isn't saying that they fixed the match unless that was said in another tweet?
newzealand were 83 for 5, you guys needed 100 odd runs with 6 wickets in hand from the last 10 overs on a batting pitch with a short leg-side boundary. Which side would not fancy that equation? Not even trying to chase it is embarrassing.
There were a lot of non-Indians who rated Dhoni, thankfully everyone has seen what we've been watching for the last two years.
What a baffling comparison. NZ went from a certain loss at 80/5 in 26 overs to put up a highly competitive score of 240. They showed spirit and fight in the second half of their batting innings and gave themselves a half decent chance of winning the game. In the end they were only a wicket or two in the middle overs away from winning it. They lost in the final over, compared to 25+ overs if they had been crumbled out for 130. Completely opposite to India's lackluster approach in the final 10 overs.
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Ganguly breathes a sigh of relief.
Well it's not like Jadav was bowling a lot, in fact he hasn't bowled a single bowl in this WC is in not wrong.
