They are very poor, these days. Time was (not that long back) they were one of the better associate nations.
ICC World T20 2016
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They did finish top of their qualifying group to be fair (admittedly losing to the Netherlands and Afghanistan).
They seem to lose to the latter pretty consistently, from what I've seen.
fecking brainless by Sharif after that partnership had dragged them back into it a bit.
How well do you know India vs Pakistan? http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/35...bc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport
I did rather shithouse but I'm not Indian or Pakistani so no obligation to know all this.
I did rather shithouse but I'm not Indian or Pakistani so no obligation to know all this.
Seven. Only one I was confident of was the women's cricket question....
Day 4: Netherlands vs Oman | Bangladesh vs Ireland
Looks like rain has ruined this group.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/981243.html
Hard to watch.
Preston Mommsen knocked a Jarred Kimber question out of the park yesterday as well. Such a shame that every World Cup is surrounded by the scandal that is the current treatment of associates.
Hard to watch.
Preston Mommsen knocked a Jarred Kimber question out of the park yesterday as well. Such a shame that every World Cup is surrounded by the scandal that is the current treatment of associates.
I followed the qualifiers last summer thinking 'good on these six nations, finally they'll get to play the big boys'. I was out-and-out shocked when I saw the groups for this WT20. My expectation was 4x4 groups which would have been awesome for the associates but basically these countries are qualifying to play qualifiers.
Mommsen said it well yesterday. They won the qualifiers last year and their reward? Play more qualifiers against the same nations they faced last year! ICC are a farce.
Mommsen said it well yesterday. They won the qualifiers last year and their reward? Play more qualifiers against the same nations they faced last year! ICC are a farce.
ICC are cnuts. I knew next to nothing about cricket prior to the 96 WC...and am still not a massive fan.
But, no world sporting body does more to hurt itself than the ICC. While the IRB does all it can to spread the game - the ICC in the same of 'competition' continues to deny access to nations.
It's all good though...the game doesn't need anyone other than India and Australia
But, no world sporting body does more to hurt itself than the ICC. While the IRB does all it can to spread the game - the ICC in the same of 'competition' continues to deny access to nations.
It's all good though...the game doesn't need anyone other than India and Australia
It needs India, Australia, England and South Africa. It also needs Pakistan, to keep the Indians interested.ICC are cnuts. I knew next to nothing about cricket prior to the 96 WC...and am still not a massive fan.
But, no world sporting body does more to hurt itself than the ICC. While the IRB does all it can to spread the game - the ICC in the same of 'competition' continues to deny access to nations.
It's all good though...the game doesn't need anyone other than India and Australia
Also, FIFA are worse than the ICC.
You're entirely right, on your general point, though. Time and time again cricket just seems to assume no one outside the test nations cares and acts as if that is the case. That is not how you grow a sport, that is currently more marketable than it's ever been, thanks to how watchable to an outsider T20 is.
Real shame it's been limited to 12 overs, but hoping Ireland can manage a surprise.
I think Ireland can chase 110 with their power hitters. Anything above that will be very hard.
FIFA is corrupt and obviously the bidding for World Cups highlights that...but in terms of spreading the game, it does a ton of work. It spends an absolute fortune on grassroots and trying to develop the game across the globe.
Looking from the outside in - Obviously India-Pakistan is still an incredible rivalry and neither nation wants to lose to the other...but, I'd say Indians look forward to their team playing Australia more than Pakistan now.
Having seen the fielding in their last match, I'm not sure they'll keep it below 110 even in a 72 ball match That last over was comical.
That last over was comical.On course for 150...
On the first point - FIFA gives a lot of money to smaller nations because of its fecked up voting structure, that means tiny uninterested countries have the same power as large football mad ones... but you'll know this as well as I do. The ideal leadership is a healthy balance.
I'd be very surprised if Indian fans were more determined to see their team beat the Aussies than Pakistan!
Bangla going very well here.
Fecking rain. Maybe Ireland will limit them to under 110 after all
Bangladesh are too good for these qualifiers. I mean on current form they have more chance of winning the World Cup than SL and all frankly
If they go out there again I guess Ireland will need 70-80 from 5 overs. No chance chasing that.
Ireland need 108 from 8 overs 
Over.
Harsh on Ireland but then they should never have lost to Oman.
Harsh on Ireland but then they should never have lost to Oman.
ICC seems to be the only administrative global sports body who's not interested in widening it's game. Incorporating these associate teams even in the local cricketing leagues with help a lot but not anything has been done.
Heck I'm sure even if they invite these associate countries to play the A or B teams that'd prolly help a lot too.
Heck I'm sure even if they invite these associate countries to play the A or B teams that'd prolly help a lot too.
We (English county cricket) had Ireland, Scotland and Netherlands play in our one day tournament. It didn't work, largely because their best players were already playing for other counties.
Kyle McCallan on a serious rant again.
I actually want 2007 ODI WC format to be followed, not the super 8 crap, but the 4x4 groups. Gives realistic chance to a minnow to qualify. No one wants to see Ind, Aus, SA/SL and Pak/NZ always being the semifinalists. Its boring and one of the main reasons many people have stopped following cricket closely.
And also because they didn't want to be seen as a glorified county rather than a country in their own right.
It's difficult, at the very least now teams are tending to tour Ireland as warm up to England fixtures so they're getting at least a little bit of cricket. Scotland have got fecking no one to play all summer I don't think, which is sad, and the same is true for the Netherlands too.
The real difficulty is that the window for these guys to get games is so crammed. I don't think theres enough cash in it for any team to come and tour Ireland, say, outside of an England tour.
It was very disappointing the other month that when England played HK and UAE before the Pak series they weren't televised or treated as proper matches because England didn't want to pay the T20i match fees to its players.
Whatever happened to Kenya?!? Not even in the qualifiers these days.
They were in the qualifiers. The qualifiers Netherlands and Scotland won and as a result qualified themselves for this diverse and including world event.
Poor shot to get out there, but he's set his team up with that 40 off 23.
One series that I remember fondly is when Pakistan played two games in Ireland before the last Champions Trophy in England. Kevin O'Brien hitting Ajmal for a last ball four to tie the game. In the second game Ireland being well on top before a late six hitting show by Wahab. Ireland showed they are competitive against rapid pace and quality spin. Joyce hitting a century in one of the games and I think Stirling doing so in the other. It was a refreshing mini series.
These series should happen on a regular basis, not only before teams tour England. I think PCB have promised heightened security for any team that wants to tour Pakistan. The big teams don't seem bothered so it is a good opportunity for any associate to make a name for themselves. Zimbabwe (full member I know) went there last year and Pakistan repaid them by touring Zimbabwe a couple of months later. In order to gain you have to give.
After a quick google search it seems talks are ongoing between PCB and Cricket Ireland and they will try and come to a conclusion when Pakistan play in Ireland this summer. It will do Irish cricket the world of good to play 5 games at an iconic and packed stadium in Pakistan and having Pakistan over for a full series.
England seamers getting a serious beating. Jordan and Plunkett don't strike me as bowlers that will cause havoc on flat tracks.
These warm-ups should count as official T20Is, especially if both teams agree to use 11 players only.
These warm-ups should count as official T20Is, especially if both teams agree to use 11 players only.
Day 5: Afghanistan vs Zimbabwe | Hong Kong vs Scotland
How the feck was that not out?
Erhm, that ball bounced in his fingers. Didn't touch the grass. Not the first time a third umpire messes up a clean catch.
He has 'conclusive evidence' that it did bounce
He has 'conclusive evidence' that it did bounce
Rashid getting 3-15 off his 4 in the warm up game. Good effort.
Reverse pull over the keeper's head. I've seen it all now.
I'd be surprised if Zim can chase this.
Great effort fromm Afghanistan. Should be more than enough.