You're right. We need a screening system of some sort. It's intolerable that these bastards can so easily sabotage everything we hold dear. Intolerable!
Jose Mourinho v Ryan Giggs... who do you want? [POLL]
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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If people think Giggs couldn't do worse than LVG, they are in for a shock.
Agreed
That's enough about the board - what about the oppo fans?
1) Say you want Mourinho over Giggs
2) Get chance to actually vote on it in something club (say they) would pay attention to
3) Vote Giggs
4) ???
5) Profit?
Probably still holding a grudge for 99.
I don't really have any desire to elaborate. I answered the poll. I stated earlier in this thread that I didn't have an overly strong opinion on the matter.
Why do you feel the need to debate it with me or call my support into question? My opinion matters about as much as yours which amounts to 'not even a tiny bit'. The club will make their decision. I'd imagine they already have.
I'm fairly certain Jose is our next manager. I hope he proves to be a big success and I'll still be at the matches supporting as always.
Bout the only true thing that disgusting lot have said on their show. Hope the board are listening. Fecking United board are as thick as two planks it seems.
This. I am not Mourinho's biggest fan at all. I don't even like him but we are in a desperate situation. Mourinho or Giggs isn't even a debate. ABUs can shout panic all they like, I don't care.
What?
Fine... I was just curious of why anyone would think Giggs is qualified for the role.
I'd enjoy taking the risk.
Their revenge for 1999?
It's even more laughable a question when you see their names side by side in poll form.
Because of my dislike of Jose it's not even close for me.
But I've never been overly against Giggs getting a shot. Big risk but so worth it if it pays off
But I've never been overly against Giggs getting a shot. Big risk but so worth it if it pays off
There seems to be this sort of general attitude that our level under Moyes/LVG is generally the lowest we can hit, and that it's pretty much impossible to get worse so we don't need to worry about Giggs from that perspective, which is a bit concerning because it's untrue. A disastrous season under Giggs (which is possible) could see us doing terribly in what is generally a competitive, tight league.
I'm not crazy about Jose's personality either - but rather that than the club take an even riskier proposition at this moment in time. The club's needs come first. We can't afford to gamble again for a long time.
I can't see Giggs doing worse than Jose did last time out
At Chelsea? Mourinho still won a league title - Chelsea's only title since 2009/10. The problems at Chelsea go well beyond Mourinho (even though he conducted himself terribly). But if Giggs doesn't do any worse than Mourinho, then he'll have won us the league.
Unfortunately I can see him doing worse. But that's just our opinions.
Mourinho just shading it here.
Mourinho, Giggs should't even be in contention, it's farcical if he really is.
This is now becoming so much like the chaotic 70s, it's not even funny. You can make assumptions about who on the board is touting which manager, but the idea of putting a guy who has never run a football club day to day in charge of a football team in free fall is lunacy. I know *loonacy. Look at the name.
*Lunacy. Thanks @Akash
*Lunacy. Thanks @Akash
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This type of poll really makes me think that what if the people we have in charge are guys like Randall and Twigg. Like what if Ed Woodward actually thinks like them and that is why are in the mess we are right now. Its scary when you think about it - comes down to sheer luck that whomever is in charge has decent judgement or not.
Can't spell it though...
I'm talking this season and I place 100% of the blame at Jose 's feet
Giggs will not do a worse job than that
Oh go lick your own arse some more please.
Bit of an unfair poll. I can't stand Jose, but there is no comparison between an experienced manager and a number 2 with little proven managerial experience.
I would like to think that when they look for LVG's replacement it goes further than these 2 candidates.
I would like to think that when they look for LVG's replacement it goes further than these 2 candidates.
wouldn't have worked as well!No, he spells it right, the rest of the world spell it wrong.
Yeah
I think we're all just wanting someone at united to end this Van Gaal torture. I backed him right up until the Southampton game, and defended him on this forum, but it's now reached critical mass.
I think it's already decided that Mourinho is the man. There are too many sources saying it's a done deal. And so the Poll is simply whether some of us would prefer Giggs or someone else.
If it was still up in the air, other names would be in the poll I guess.
Again, how do we know? We're placing a man with no managerial experience whatsoever into a team that needs to be overhauled and has some massive deficiencies. If De Gea leaves in the summer, that's only going to get worse. Giggs is going to have some absolutely massive calls to make. Does he persist with Rooney, or does Martial lead the line? Do we persist with signings that haven't worked out like Depay and Darmian, or do we replace them? What style does he play, considering our current one is dire? Does he persist with Blind in defence? Does he play Jones or Rojo? Does he buy someone new?
All this is being placed into the hands of someone who hasn't ever been a full-time manager before...and it won't be worse than Chelsea's season because...why? Of course, it probably wouldn't get that bad, but the capacity for it to happen is certainly there.
I'm amazed Mourinho has only got 94%.
Are you suggesting that the British media is in touch with the fans?
You can't see Giggs doing worse than winning a league title?
Exactly. Another disastrous campaign under Giggs could have permanent damage. We are currently only a few points from 8/9th position. The idea we can't lose more games under Giggs is deluded. And in this league p, we could suddenly find ourselves mid table.
This is a hard one for me. Although on paper there should be only one winner, I'm not a massive fan of Mourinho for a few reasons. Having said that, him coming to United will hopefully most likely guarantee trophies, whereas, due to the lack of experience from Giggs, our following seasons could pan out like it has under Moyes and Van Gaal. However, if we look at the aforementioned managers, they had/have bags of experience - the latter having expeirence in Europe too, yet it didn't seem to work.
Therefore, it begs the question. Do we need another experienced manager, who will come in and possibly chnage up quite a lot of things (staff, players, formation, tactics, etc) or do we need someone who's knows the club, knows how they work and knows the players? I can imagine all of the players will have massive respect for Giggs. SAF and Bobby Charlton are bigs fans, etc.
In an ideal world, if we could have Giggs as manager, but bring in a great coach - someone who is tactically brilliant, whilst Giggs sticks to just the actual 'manager' role, i.e, pep talks, choosing the team, player morale, etc, then I'd be all for Giggs being next manager. We'd also have to have a good scouting system. Bit tired of us paying excessive amounts for some players. It's not my money, but I think over the last couple of years we've been a bit careless with our spending.
Therefore, it begs the question. Do we need another experienced manager, who will come in and possibly chnage up quite a lot of things (staff, players, formation, tactics, etc) or do we need someone who's knows the club, knows how they work and knows the players? I can imagine all of the players will have massive respect for Giggs. SAF and Bobby Charlton are bigs fans, etc.
In an ideal world, if we could have Giggs as manager, but bring in a great coach - someone who is tactically brilliant, whilst Giggs sticks to just the actual 'manager' role, i.e, pep talks, choosing the team, player morale, etc, then I'd be all for Giggs being next manager. We'd also have to have a good scouting system. Bit tired of us paying excessive amounts for some players. It's not my money, but I think over the last couple of years we've been a bit careless with our spending.
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