Then Paul Pogba and Gerard Pique should count as Carrington products.
Full list of Carrington graduates playing in the PL:
Biggest and richest club in the league or a club that has to compete against the biggest and richest club in their league. Which has more expectations and which is underachieving?
Wow, what absolute unadultered driveltrolling at it's best
Scouting works different at a big club, then at a small team like Dortmund. You can't just scout in Asia or eastern Europe/France for some small players, and throw them into the first team, when there are class players already in those positions. It's a "benefit" only poor clubs or clubs with poor opponents have.
Youth acadamy? You really want to go for our youth academy? Our youth academy is lightyears better then yours..alone in recent years we produced players like Pogba, Pique, Drinkwater, Pereira, Lingard, Rashford and co. 5th choice youth players from us go into other Premier league teams (Burnley/ Michael Keane) and boss their defense. And you are coming with players like Passlack or Durmhilarious.
Envy your players? You don't have a single player that would make our first team. We just bought your best player at a position we have around the least competition (qualitywise, not quantity). And he can't even make the first team. He was kept out of the first team by an academy product from our team by the way, before he got injured.
A lot of things are not working as they should in our club, but those have nothing to do with the quality of our players or our academy.
Really made my day
Obvious we are, still we won cup. Let's not assume that Dortmund are poor club. They are second biggest in Germany and still didn't win a lot in last few years.
What the feck is this? Tell me you're taking the piss? This is the worst post I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.trolling at it's best
Scouting works different at a big club, then at a small team like Dortmund. You can't just scout in Asia or eastern Europe/France for some small players, and throw them into the first team, when there are class players already in those positions. It's a "benefit" only poor clubs or clubs with poor opponents have.
Youth acadamy? You really want to go for our youth academy? Our youth academy is lightyears better then yours..alone in recent years we produced players like Pogba, Pique, Drinkwater, Pereira, Lingard, Rashford and co. 5th choice youth players from us go into other Premier league teams (Burnley/ Michael Keane) and boss their defense. And you are coming with players like Passlack or Durm
Envy your players? You don't have a single player that would make our first team. We just bought your best player at a position we have around the least competition (qualitywise, not quantity). And he can't even make the first team. He was kept out of the first team by an academy product from our team by the way, before he got injured.
A lot of things are not working as they should in our club, but those have nothing to do with the quality of our players or our academy.
Really made my day
This is a very good point and I would like to add another quality of him which helps him against physical superior players. Weigl is very good at drawing fouls against him and I don´t mean that in a negative way. He is not a diver nor is he overly theatric but his movement and body build allow him to position himself even in high pressure situations (either because of a rare bad first touch or because of opposing pressing) in a way, that the attacker has to go through him to get to the ball.
Hope springs eternal. Sadly, I feel like he's not the shit poster we want, but the shit poster we deserve.
Absolutely loved that goal. His productivity in terms of pure numbers (goals+assists) are somewhat low but that isn't his job, however I would like to see him try more of those shots. Brilliant player and wins so many fouls through his positioning and awareness.
now hold your horses! to attribute weigl "with that kind of a shot" is a bit of a long shot in its own right, as it was in fact his first goal for dortmund, ever, and it's not like he had been too close to it and/or eager to score at all.
I just saw this
They are both excellent to be honest. If I had to choose, I'd choose Weigl.
Very different players. Weigl is more composed and clearly the superior deep lying playmaker while Kimmich is extremely versatile for his young age. My biased heart says Kimmich, of course.
Another one whose very talented but gone under the radar a bit is Johannes Geis at Schalke. Germany seem to be blessed with midfielders at the moment.
They are both in the same quality bracket, albeit with different skillsets. Weigl is a new incarnation of Busquets, while Kimmich excels as a B2B/RB. Hope Josh doesn't lose his newly acquired scoring boots. 7 goals in the last 8 matches isn't shabby for player of his position
Dahoud as well. We seriously need to dip into that German midfield pool next summer.
You probably can get them when they are old and then you can show them Manchesters Golfcourse.
Well if Verratti's not on the market, we can definitely find Carrick's replacement in the bundesliga - Weigl, Dahoud, Goretzka, take your pick. Just need to move fast because Bayern snap these guys up like no one's business.
Weigl and Kimmich is out of the question, I feel that Dahoud can be bought though. Altough with that ridiculously low buyout clause Bayern will probably be all over that.
No. Dahoud is a player somekind like Gündogan. He is no deep laying playmaker like Weigl, more a CM than a DM. A #8, if you want to call it like that.
Hell no
Dahoud is a CAM at heart, and lacks defensive discipline. That's why Schubert hasn't given him a lot of minutes so far this season.Besides the perma-injured Goretzka and the unfeasible Kimmich and Weigl is there anyone in the German league that would fit our need for a dm\holding midfielder?Hell no
But that were only some very first weeks in the season. Just wanted to point out that his rise was not so obvious before for me than the rise of Kimmich. Which just underlines that iam no professional scout and our scouting network and club policy is great. Also the move of getting Kimmich was a good one of Bayern. Stuttgart must be realy stupid to behave with his youth like with Kimmich. But all in all, 2 examples of how well youth work is going and that all over the country. What is added to that base is that the 2 topclubs of the Bundesliga were brave enough to implement these 2 boys and give them responsibility, even in tough games. Now they are getting paid back therefor.
How would it be to build your own like Bayern and Dortmund have done?
But to answer your question: Xhaka were interesting, but Arsenal was faster, (so much for the question of if buying only Popgba was a clever move). Sahin from us is probably leaving so take your chance.. Goretzka is great (mixture from a #6 and #8) and in my eyes it only needs good clubwork with professional training to get him solid (i dont expect that from Schlacke). Baier from Augsburg is good. Baumgartlinger just moved. Hmm,.. Geis? Maybe Bayern gives you Alonso? Could be that he plays golf, too. #greetingsfromSchweiniCould you for once just try and respond without your customary twenty digs and aura of bitterness? Yes we bought Micky Targaryan from you, yes we have a lot of money, yes we play in the PL. Get over it or go sit in the corner of a bierstube and crywank.How is it to build your own like Bayern and Dortmund have done?
Ah btw: What about Schweinsteiger? If you realy are searching for a DLP, did Mourinho just forget about him?
Elaborate please for those who have no idea what has happened.
You mean someone mature enough already to step into Carrick's shoes day 1 at such a big club as Utd? Sorry, can't think of one besides Weigl who probably isn't going to leave Dortmund in the near future.
For the context: 1860 is a club in absolut chaos. Back then their coach made Weigl the captain,him being 20 years old (?) and just rised from the youth. He was also in the starting eleven. Then some day Weigl was in a taxi and talking with others about how bad the club policy is and things bad about the club. The taxidriver was a 1860 fan and told it to some newspaper, the board was angry about that and they punished Weigl. He was no captain anymore and also were out of the starting formation.
Thats exactly the point: "not big enough for United", while Bayern an Dortmund showes how it goes: Have a plan in getting some young player, trust them, implement them to the surprise of all, develop them and half or a year later teams like United look at these lads and are thinking "we need a player like him, where to get?".
Oh cheers, quite unlucky and stupid at the same time but hey, that's youth for I guess.
It was a non-issue. He and 3 other team-mates were out partying in a club (after a lost match? I don’t remember) and took a cab back home. While being in the cab, they said a couple of bad things about their club. The cab driver was a 1860-fan and ratted them out by telling the club bosses about it. They (and half of the team) had to play for the second team for 1-2 weeks and he lost his captaincy. He continued to be a starter afterwards.
