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Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's too emotional to have a Twitter account anyway. Luckily for him, they embrace the madness at Liverpool.
So we ring fence certain players?
Yeah. No one did that when De Gea arrived.
I really liked klopp at Dortmund, and was jealous liverpool got him. Liked him at liverpool for a while, but now he's coming across as a bellend.
It was Alan Hansen who began the punditry trend of ruthlessly criticizing players (particularly defenders) on MOTD back in the early 90s.
It was Alan Hansen who began the punditry trend of ruthlessly criticizing players (particularly defenders) on MOTD back in the early 90s.
Well in Gary lad!
Please do a full MNF segment in the next show on why Karius continues to be an utter liability in net and I'll get the popcorn in...
Please do a full MNF segment in the next show on why Karius continues to be an utter liability in net and I'll get the popcorn in...
Find it hilarious that Klopp has come out with 'he's a failed manager' arguement.
For a start aren't Valencia in the relegation zone this season? The club has been in a downward spiral for while. That was already happening before Neville turned up.
Secondly he is a pundit, it's his job. He has been very critical of Martial in recent weeks.
Gary could quite easily say 'look at my trophy cabinet as a player'. Klopp has nothing to show for his playing career whereas Gary is one of the most decorated defenders of his generation.
Seems petty to comment at all about it, especially when the criticism is completely valid.
For a start aren't Valencia in the relegation zone this season? The club has been in a downward spiral for while. That was already happening before Neville turned up.
Secondly he is a pundit, it's his job. He has been very critical of Martial in recent weeks.
Gary could quite easily say 'look at my trophy cabinet as a player'. Klopp has nothing to show for his playing career whereas Gary is one of the most decorated defenders of his generation.
Seems petty to comment at all about it, especially when the criticism is completely valid.
Usually.
Did Klopp mention his own playing career?
True, but what Klopp pointed out is that it's dumb to rate players in such a way.
In Carragher's favour you have to say that at least he's never failed as badly as Neville did with Valencia and England. Gary Neville is like the naked king, someone had to call him out.
Well, that Klopp isn't cracking up.
I always find it funny how this kind of thing is considered rattled
he looked quite normal.
What have I missed here??? Such a non event!
That is just a stupid argument when Carragher has never taken the chance to go into management. So because he has never taken an opportunity to manage he is therefore immune from criticism?
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That wasn't right either. It was ridiculous and even more stupid when looked at in hindsight. If anyone deserves to be absolutely torn apart it is an experienced keeper like Bravo who has been utterly shite.
Yeah it's a terrible argument, arguably makes him even less qualified since he has no idea of a career within football post-playing.
He didn't but Klopp mentioned Gary's managerial ability as he perceived his record to be far superior and used that to embarrass him (you don't bring up a topic if you're worse at it than the person you're trying to humiliate)
Klopp is an idiot and shouldn't have brought any of this up as its put even more focus on Karius, but he knew he'd have the scousers eating out his hands by picking on the Nevilles - he's an attention whore
Not sure he's rattled but think it's definitely a mistake addressing any pundit's criticism directly. Gives more power to the pundit.
Karius has looked very average so I don't blame the Neville's for sticking their oars in. Klopp also ignores the fact Carra said the same because he is ex-L'Pool. Should have dismissed the question given how often players get criticised but has given the media exactly what they need. 'Klopp backs flop' headlines to come!
Karius has looked very average so I don't blame the Neville's for sticking their oars in. Klopp also ignores the fact Carra said the same because he is ex-L'Pool. Should have dismissed the question given how often players get criticised but has given the media exactly what they need. 'Klopp backs flop' headlines to come!
Just love it really, the media pressure is now focused towards Liverpool. Just hope United can get into a winning run to make it worse. Well done the Neville brothers!
Particularly funny when I think how much the likes of Souness have slaughtered United for 3 years and nothing gets said even though he is a biased Liverpool loving pundit.
Particularly funny when I think how much the likes of Souness have slaughtered United for 3 years and nothing gets said even though he is a biased Liverpool loving pundit.
Haven't people on here said similar things to Klopp about Neville when he's criticised Mourinho and United?
Wait for the inevitable claims that this will bring Klopp and his squad closer together, he's creating a siege mentality in the dressing room, and it's something Fergie would have done
He didn't bring it up
Klopp comes across like a right tosser there.
That's ok, Jose has copyrighted that one.Wait for the inevitable claims that this will bring Klopp and his squad closer together, he's creating a siege mentality in the dressing room, and it's something Fergie would have done
I don't get this Karius has more holes in his game than the house he occupies with his brother Bactus.. The point is that Liverpool's defence and keepers are not nearly good enough to challenge for titles and Klopp knows that, the problem here lies with these are his signings,. Klavan, Karius and Matip.. Now watch the media tear them apart.
Good times..
Good times..
Of course they have.
Ahh so the Klopp honeymoon is over now, nice
Think Souness is one of the best pundits around and is very fair.
Klopps dig at Nevilles managerial (brief) record was childish and idiotic at best
Hmmm. Klavan barely played. Matip has been outstanding - look at his record when in compared to out the team. But do go on.
No. Jose has mentioned such perceived bias in his Chelsea days
Rarely will you see somebody contradict themselves so many times in 60 seconds. What a bellend he is. Anybody classing that as anything more than waffle needs their head examined. It's basically a rant in a calm voice.
Yep. Two games without a win. Run for the hills, the daggers are out!!!
Fair enough, but football fandom creates an echo chamber around it until it eats itself. It is something of nothing but is turned into a thing...until the next non-footballing football thing that happens.
To be fair, at the moment all the holes are in his gloves.
You were also this dismissive when defending Liverpools lack of clean sheets earlier.
No, from Klopp's perspective at best it impressed his fan base and mildly irritated United fans.
At worst it's destroyed his side's chances of a top half finish leading him to resign and retire from the game.
When?
Sorry buddy, it was actually Shades.
Is it racist that I couldn't tell you apart? I fell like it's racist
What has Neville's managerial career got to do with it? Klopp made it personal in my opinion.
By his logic, Carragher shouldn't be talking either cause he has no experience in management? Or does he not wanna go there incase it upsets his scouse fanbase? Someone needs to point out that Carra also criticised his crap goalkeeper.
The guy is a tosser. Liked him at Dortmund but can't stand him now. Comes across as an attention seeking media darling. Lost his last five finals and everyone goes on about him like he's the best thing.
By his logic, Carragher shouldn't be talking either cause he has no experience in management? Or does he not wanna go there incase it upsets his scouse fanbase?
Someone needs to point out that Carra also criticised his crap goalkeeper.The guy is a tosser. Liked him at Dortmund but can't stand him now. Comes across as an attention seeking media darling. Lost his last five finals and everyone goes on about him like he's the best thing.