Reminded me of when Terry was getting slated in the press for poor performances and said "I'll take it from Neville, Rio or Carrragher but it's a bit much from Robbie Savage".
No but he's not immune from criticism either. No one isSo what, that excludes him of commenting on football and players?
Thought that was pretty funny if you take it as not being completely serious.Reminded me of when Terry was getting slated in the press for poor performances and said "I'll take it from Neville, Rio or Carrragher but it's a bit much from Robbie Savage".
He should do what De Gea did and get on with his job. I don't think anyone is above criticism but I also think some criticism is not worth it. The likes of Neville and Carragher's comments should not be a feature of Karius thoughts.Oh yes. Said Karius should shut up and get on with his job or something..but why? Karius can reply if he feels he's being criticised too heavily.
I didn't say he's immune from criticism. Just that Klopp's reaction was low and uncalled for.No but he's not immune from criticism either. No one is
Its the truth though. Gaz is not very good in assessing footballI didn't say he's immune from criticism. Just that Klopp's reaction was low and uncalled for.
Easier to target the Nevilles which demeans his overall criticism. At least Fergie had no problem popping back at Neville over De Gea.Why no mention of Carragher?
Yeah but you don't diss someone just cause he failed as manager. And he says he doesn't listen to Nevilles which is interesting since he commented on their comments.Its the truth though. Gaz is not very good in assessing football
What I do disagree with Klopp in him saying that Gaz is biased against Liverpool. That's unfair TBH. Gaz bias towards English players is extraordinary and that include Steve Gerrard.
Both Phil Neville and Carragher said that. They rain criticism on him, Karius gives a retort and their response is "shut up and do your job."Oh yes. Said Karius should shut up and get on with his job or something..but why? Karius can reply if he feels he's being criticised too heavily.
You can say he's not very good and bring proof about it by bringing up his track record. He can't do the same with Carra because Carra knew his place and stayed in punditry.Yeah but you don't diss someone just cause he failed as manager. And he says he doesn't listen to Nevilles which is interesting since he commented on their comments.
All you said is true but Carragher criticised Karius and Klopp didn't say a word about it. Neville has been pretty neutral towards United.
Also its not as if they were top quality players. Carra in particular should just shut up especially considering how thin skinned he was as a playerBoth Phil Neville and Carragher said that. They rain criticism on him, Karius gives a retort and their response is "shut up and do your job."
Absolutely pathetic response from them. They deserve much worse than what Klopp dished out.
That's an ace response though, to be fair!Reminded me of when Terry was getting slated in the press for poor performances and said "I'll take it from Neville, Rio or Carrragher but it's a bit much from Robbie Savage".
Demands?!? Who the feck is he?From what I've gathered from his statement I'd say that Klopp demands something more insightful and less short sighted from a pundit than calling someone a terrible player for having a few bad games, especially since the player in question is still quite young and just moved to a new league and much bigger club.
Quite. Not like you. I still remember your masterful summary of the development of the fullback role. You should send that to Neville, him being a fullback (albeit an English one, i.e. a donkey) himself.Its the truth though. Gaz is not very good in assessing football
So the fact he wasn't good at managerial job means he's bad at assessing players in general?You can say he's not very good and bring proof about it by bringing up his track record. He can't do the same with Carra because Carra knew his place and stayed in punditry.
Exactly. Getting all precious because the player responded to his brother's criticism.Oh yes. Said Karius should shut up and get on with his job or something..but why? Karius can reply if he feels he's being criticised too heavily.
What do you want them to do? Not say anything about any players...create some sort of safe space?Both Phil Neville and Carragher said that. They rain criticism on him, Karius gives a retort and their response is "shut up and do your job."
Absolutely pathetic response from them. They deserve much worse than what Klopp dished out.
Yes, that was odd as well. Carragher has had a right go as well but he's oddly chosen to make it about club bias which isn't the case. It's just experts being experts. Should have ripped into all of them but then it wouldn't go well with the fans so he kept mum.Think it is fine for Klopp to open fire on the Nevilles, although I think his dig at Nevilles managerial career is a bit petty. They need to be called out on their callous and lazy criticism of foreign players, whilst staunchly giving all benefit of doubt to English players.
My only regret is that he didn't take aim at carragher who has embarrassed himself with all this as well.
They would all get into their respective sides tomorrow if they were in their prime. Those CL winners.Also its not as if they were top quality players. Carra in particular should just shut up especially considering how thin skinned he was as a player
This. I'm annoyed that this is happening now, right in the middle of our first dodgy patch of form. The smart move would have been to stay quiet and focus on beating Boro/Everton. After the points are won and everyone is off of our backs then say what you like.Doesn't matter what Klopp or Neville say about our German keeper, because until he proves himself not to be a shit goalkeeper people will call him a shit goalkeeper. DDG was helping United win titles at a similar age. Our man looks like he'll cost us a shot at winning the title this season.
As said Gaz can't criticise others without risking having his horrible track record in football coaching and football management being thrown back at him.So the fact he wasn't good at managerial job means he's bad at assessing players in general?
I doubt Phil would put either Valencia or Shaw on the bench tbhThey would all get into their respective sides tomorrow if they were in their prime. Those CL winners.
So we stick with Darmian? I'd play Heinze in front of him and I hate that manI doubt Phil would put either Valencia or Shaw on the bench tbh
Both Shaw and Blind are/should be ahead of DarmianSo we stick with Darmian? I'd play Heinze in front of him and I hate that man
I honestly don't think Jose rates any of them and we'll be signing a new fullback in the summer but that's for a different thread.Both Shaw and Blind are/should be ahead of Darmian
Fair enough. But other things he said were funny.As said Gaz can't criticise others without risking having his horrible track record in football coaching and football management being thrown back at him.
If I was him, Id reply to him by wishing Klopp to win as many EPL and CL medals as he did. These type of play can be played from both sides
If its true than he is stupidI honestly don't think Jose rates any of them and we'll be signing a new fullback in the summer but that's for a different thread.
Klopp is diverting criticism from his players to a vulnerable media man whom liverpool love to hate. It happens.Fair enough. But other things he said were funny.
Gary doesn't like Liverpool. He doesn't but he never lets that have any influence on his work as a pundit, he's pretty impartial. Which cannot be said for some of the ex Liverpool ones and there are many of them. And he said Carragher doesn't say anything positive bout United which isn't true either. Carragher as a pundit has been very good and had some really good quotes about United.
Welcome to the PL. Media here can stir shite with cliche as much as they want. They're doing their job earning money. Noone can tell them to stfu. If anything, Klopp has had it smooth sailing thus far. This is an aspect where PL gets there entertaining draw. Pressure off the pitch at time is your tougher opponent. How a manager can overcome these off pitch obstacle is also a way to define how good a manager he is.From what I've gathered from his statement I'd say that Klopp demands something more insightful and less short sighted from a pundit than calling someone a terrible player for having a few bad games, especially since the player in question is still quite young and just moved to a new league and much bigger club.
So Wednesday night then?Karius will be slaughtered the next mistake he makes.