Did he actually say that though ? I've just watched the post-match interview and he certainly didn't say it there. What he did say is that you changed tactics and started playing long balls ... there wasn't a hint of criticism.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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In fairness to Klopp he looks like he spends the better part of each day boffing laughing gas, so anything he says post match is irrelevant, if they didn't have Coutinho they'd never have gotten a sniff of the ball in the second half.
Not sure which game Klopp watched, always had him down as being quite truthful (for a manager) in his analysis. Simon Mignolet MOM says it all.
Decent game, Pogba was dreadful, we need to start taking one on one chances (Mkhi, Martial, Pogba, Rooney - was offside but still) all missing from close. 3 points next game pls.
Decent game, Pogba was dreadful, we need to start taking one on one chances (Mkhi, Martial, Pogba, Rooney - was offside but still) all missing from close. 3 points next game pls.
He's an Arsenal fan or can you look past that?Aw, you do have a flaw
This thread is an absolute farce.
Let's all be honest. 3 years ago we would have just been as happy with Klopp and we would Jose. The same with Liverpool fans slating Jose, when it was obvious Rodgers was on his way they would have been delighted to get Mourinho.
Can we just stop all this back and forth about who has the biggest 'johnson', we are both above average, so who really cares.
I wasn't disputing you had good chances - I've said so already post match. Just disputing people saying we didn't or we were defensive or other such shite.
BTW - you count Mignolet's attempted clearance that ricocheted off Ibra as an ' attempt ? Haha. Oh and you can have one or the other (Fellaini hitting the post, not the bar, or the goal) but not both - they happened within a couple of seconds of each other so obviously if Fellaini's had gone in then there was no Ibra goal.
I note you are also discounting our fluffed efforts from Origi when through and Wijnaldum fecked up TWO very good chances, in addition to Firmino's.
Yeah of course, he has enough disappointment in his life.
Klopp's post-match interview really did come across as massively bitter and he was very keen to highlight us using long balls.
While I'm not a fan of us playing in that way, it does make me laugh when managers use this as some kind of moral superiority. If it's such a terrible tactic then surely they should be able to cut them out no problem. You'd think Liverpool were the dogs bollocks in that game the way he went on.
While I'm not a fan of us playing in that way, it does make me laugh when managers use this as some kind of moral superiority. If it's such a terrible tactic then surely they should be able to cut them out no problem. You'd think Liverpool were the dogs bollocks in that game the way he went on.
He did in his radio interview yes.
Likewise for the game at Anfield.
You also see him constantly getting digs in when other teams defend (even though they are league 1 teams that are expected to do nothing else against Liverpool.)
He is just a very condascending and indignated man. For all this horrible persona stuff that gets thrown around about Mourinho he sure seems a whole lot more respectful towards opponents and collected in his post match interviews.
Even when we had our rough period Mourinho didn't come out with half the stuff Klopp does, but the agenda in the press is set - Mourinho is the demon and Klopp is the loveable mumbling village original that can do no wrong.
His jovial and loving persona is a fraud. I'd love to see him after a run of results like we had a few months back.
Good spot.
Rafateria seems to be the sensible one, they will be gutted today.
2 points dropped for both teams.
You need valleys to enjoy the peaks.
Your English comprehension is poor, isn't it ? Relieved does not mean Pleased. I also forecast we'd likely lose before KO, so I am pleased with a point but in no way relieved after seeing the match.
Klopp has a point tbh. In the second half united went long pretty much straightaway because they had no effective way of countering the press. Was the same against City.
Just shows we need another ball-playing CB and a DM to replace Carrick.
Just shows we need another ball-playing CB and a DM to replace Carrick.
You wouldn't comment to be pleased with a point after the game, if you didn't feel like you were happy with it.
You lot used to call them Hooferpool when Rafa was managing them.
Your understanding of the two words is still wrong. Ask the man if he's 'relieved' (and no it doesn't mean he's just been for a piss - just clarifying that for you).
I think United fans can't deny he is doing a fantastic job with the assets that he has at his disposal and that is why Klopp is getting more hate now. On a player by player basis I think the Liverpool squad is lacking quality yet they're fighting for the league whilst we struggle to make top 4. They have made a profit in the transfer window, we have spent close to £150m and still look short of title winning credentials. Obviously the football is more aesthetically pleasing this season but ultimately our league position in no better than under LVG.
The pressing, high intensity style they play must be knackering for the players. I just feel that over a course of a season it may become too much for the legs. They have a small squad this season, with very little rotation to their starting eleven bar injuries. I think they started pre-season earlier than any other Premier League side to. Surely this will count near the end of the season much like Spurs last year.
In my opinion their team simply is not good enough to win the league but then we said that about Leicester last season.
The pressing, high intensity style they play must be knackering for the players. I just feel that over a course of a season it may become too much for the legs. They have a small squad this season, with very little rotation to their starting eleven bar injuries. I think they started pre-season earlier than any other Premier League side to. Surely this will count near the end of the season much like Spurs last year.
In my opinion their team simply is not good enough to win the league but then we said that about Leicester last season.
I'm sure he'll answer of his own accord. But I know from your increasingly condescending tone that I've clearly touched a nerve. The bitterness is really on show tonight
'Waah! Waah! The other team didn't play to our strengths like they should have! How do you expect us to win when they pick on our weaknesses!'
We should have played Fellaini from the start like Van Gaal used to do. He led us to some shite results but always had an answer for the '6 midfielders running round as headless chickens' act that they specialise in. The tears were always delicious afterwards too.
Guardiola does the same shite. If your game plan can be bypassed so easily, it's up to the coach to adapt the plan, not cry because 'the other team has big boys and they don't play nicely with us waaaah'
We should have played Fellaini from the start like Van Gaal used to do. He led us to some shite results but always had an answer for the '6 midfielders running round as headless chickens' act that they specialise in. The tears were always delicious afterwards too.
Guardiola does the same shite. If your game plan can be bypassed so easily, it's up to the coach to adapt the plan, not cry because 'the other team has big boys and they don't play nicely with us waaaah'
Some of you guys must have watched a different game to me. Liverpool pressed hard and created alot till they tired. An even game with a fair result
I thought the result was fair. Awful game. Bit like City - Liverpool recently actually.
how butt hurt is he....so we should have just kept going as it is , and lose 1-0.... yeah good one mr klopp
Except you guys deserved a point. We had no plan B. But ya poor game, I think the pressing and congested midfield kind of kill these type of games
Not counting points - just noting that we have a more favourable second half of the season compared to the first. We've navigated things well thus far.
Seven points is indeed a decent lead, but we play Chelsea at home in a couple of weeks, and should hopefully have our first choice XI within a couple of weeks. Suppose it's all still to play for. Just glad we didn't allow Man Utd to gain any further ground today.
"...and we'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that pesky Mourinho and his Zlatan!"
When a team presses you aggressively, you go long. It's simple football and there's nothing wrong with it. Klopp has done it many times.
It's interesting how this is the general opinion on intense football teams and coaches who opt for intense training.
Isn't the point of pre-season + generally intense training methods actually to ensure player fitness is to the highest level? I remember watching a documentary on Athletico Madrid (triple sessions etc) & how the intensity of their pre-season enables them to maintain fitness over the entirety of the season.
What exactly did he want us to do, they had already set out in what they were doing defensively, which really took any fun out of the game, with the high pressing, a good way to get around the high press is to go over it, you can't high press the ball when it's going over you to our taller more physical players.
Except in the second half there was barely any press for long periods of time; and Liverpool were camped in their half.
At times it looked like a convention of air traffic controllers.
Calling out our long balls is as useful as telling them they parked the bus.
So that makes 2 draws in the league.
Most likely there will be a 3rd meeting for the League Cup. Would be a great game as both should hopefully have full strength squads by then, and a prize to play for at a neutral ground. Of course 1 team must win.
Most likely there will be a 3rd meeting for the League Cup. Would be a great game as both should hopefully have full strength squads by then, and a prize to play for at a neutral ground. Of course 1 team must win.
It's funny cause they played the long ball at the start aiming for our right flank with Origi on Valencia.
he emphasises it because that in his mind, is what made the game incredibly difficult in the last half hour. That's why we struggled, we can't cope with that. He complimented you.
He said what made the game so difficult, especially the last half hour or so is the amount of long balls you played. I don't see what's wrong with that. I agree, had you played along the ground I reckon we would of been able to win back the ball better.
I found a post of you saying that both teams used it effectively when needed. Is this what you are referring to?
I agree..
But what Klopps saying is that after Fellaini came on, you no longer switched it up between long balls and ground passes, it was ALL long balls.
Now Again.
Nothing wrong with that, Fellaini. Zlatan. Pogba. All huge Ariel threats, you're a big side.
Honestly? It sounds like some on here just associate "they played long balls" with them having a dig, and in their minds they associate long balls with bad football. So they get mad.
Liverpool's 'press' was mainly them running around like dicks! Are we really supposed to think this is some kind of football 'thing'?
Situation is the same, we need to bury our chances when we're clean through early on. Any side with their wits about them would play simple 1-2s through their forward players, and we were guilty of being a bit sloppy and a bit naive. We were hardly struggling against some kind of genius, however.
Situation is the same, we need to bury our chances when we're clean through early on. Any side with their wits about them would play simple 1-2s through their forward players, and we were guilty of being a bit sloppy and a bit naive. We were hardly struggling against some kind of genius, however.
Liverpool probably has the best starting unit in the league, but their bench is very poor anf ill-fitted, so the moment one of their midfield/attack goes down their level drops tremendously. Origi is really not that great, except for his workrate and decent-ish finishing, but he´s Lukaku with the ball at his feet. No pressure relief or passing skills for a counter-attack. Can is a total disaster, slows down the play and gives away 2-3 dumb balls in every game. Clumsy, too. Lallana is either totally knackered or completely wasted in the front three again. I´d actually flip Wijnaldum and Lallana around. You could see how much more dangerous Liverpool got, when Coutinho was back. With Mane in there, they´ll likely finish the game off. This was actually a good point for Liverpool all things considered, but right now I would not even trust them to beat Swansea at home.
It was a strange game, either team could have won, but I would still say United were the better team, although Liverpool always looked dangerous on the break. About 5 minutes before the equalizer I actually thought United weren't going to score and Liverpool would get another on the break near the end. I think a draw was just about right overall really.
United lacked any real composure in the final third virtually the whole game, always hurrying the final ball and Liverpool's high press caused the United defence problems at times.
United's finishing was wasteful, I think had Pogba scored in the first half, United would have went on to win the game. Pogba had a shocker, to put it mildly, should have been subbed off at HT.
United lacked any real composure in the final third virtually the whole game, always hurrying the final ball and Liverpool's high press caused the United defence problems at times.
United's finishing was wasteful, I think had Pogba scored in the first half, United would have went on to win the game. Pogba had a shocker, to put it mildly, should have been subbed off at HT.
Klopp almost seems annoyed we tried to get back into the game. He moans whenever a side has the audacity to play a different way to him.