ShadesOfToeHis big toe was offsidehow was the lino supposed to call that.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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He was also being bear hugged (so peno x2)His big toe was offside
Ohhh yeah. This place is ideal for history lessons.
I heard somewhere that Clyne went to some reality show in US? Is he injured, why he isnt playing?
Rumours/unverified allegations of substance abuse which Liverpool uncovered, hence his non-appearances in first-team squads with at least the past few months.
Well he's an ex-referee who has officiated a CL final, so I'd hope so.
VAR would have ruled that goal offside. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.
Also, if the ball isn't sat right in front of him, what the feck was Van Dijk swinging at. If the ball isn't there, then he just kicked Lamela and should have got a red card.
Does he actually know how VAR works/has he worked with it?
VAR rules Lamela offside only if they have a frame that shows he's offside with 100% accuracy. Which may or may not be the case
yeah 'always the victim, its never your fault'
its like they need something to be outraged about by default
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-moss-misguided-ask-tv-help-awarding-penalty/
There's literally no other club that could or would create this level of drama.
always the victims
Not even the President's Club.
I agree that the topic is boring, but what you seem to be missing is that whoever drew that white line didn't draw it parallel with the actual lines on the pitch. Have another look. Draw it parallel and even your plan B argument fails miserably.
It was drawn parallel with a hawk eye-like TV tool on Sky Sports. So no.. it doesn't.I agree that the topic is boring, but what you seem to be missing is that whoever drew that white line didn't draw it parallel with the actual lines on the pitch. Have another look. Draw it parallel and even your plan B argument fails miserably.
Again, have a look. The distance at the top between the fake line and the penalty area line is wider at the top of the photo than it is at the bottom. And due to perspective, it should if anything be narrower. So I suspect your precious "hawk eye" TV tool might have been employed by one of the kazillion ex-LFC players found throughout UK broadcasting.
(LOL, I can't believe you're so desperate for that not to have been a penalty that you're actually arguing with me about this!
)But yeah, this topic is so dull. Face it: Liverpool were lucky to even get a point in that game. At Anfield. That's the only aspect I'd be focussing on if I were a Liverpool fan.
Why would I have a look if I'm not referring to the 'fake line'?Again, have a look. The distance at the top between the fake line and the penalty area line is wider at the top of the photo than it is at the bottom. And due to perspective, it should if anything be narrower. So I suspect your precious "hawk eye" TV tool might have been employed by one of the kazillion ex-LFC players found throughout UK broadcasting.
(LOL, I can't believe you're so desperate for that not to have been a penalty that you're actually arguing with me about this!
Arguing with you? I've already said I'm bored of the topic. But you chose to quote me so I replied. That's how a forum works.
So many losing their shit because an offside is being called an offside
It wasn't called offside by the only people that mattered thoughSo many losing their shit because an offside is being called an offside
You’re confusing “losing their shit” with them laughing at you for insistence on something that has little to do with your player’s idiotic mistake.So many losing their shit because an offside is being called an offside
You want the ref to be less of an influence in games? Then tell Klopp to stop sucking ass at defense.
"Hegel is arguing that the reality is merely an a priori adjunct of non-naturalistic ethics, Kant via the categorical imperative is holding that ontologically it exists only in the imagination, and Marx is claiming it was offside."
That really is the best way to stop this 'endless going in circles' argument
Eureka!Margin of error, benefit of doubt is supposed to go to the attacking team, Liverpool player moving to play Lamela (extremely marginally) offside just as the ball is flicked on. There is no way, even with VAR, that offside would ever be called. There's nothing in it whatsoever. And if, by some miracle, they were to look at an identical situation using VAR, do you not think they'd get pilloried for calling such a marginal offside when the defender bearhugging the offside player is a penalty offense? Lovren holding Lamela occurs before Lamela is caught offside, and qualifies for a penalty. Can you honestly, hand on heart, say that a penalty should never have been given? If you can, you're full of shit.
Don't really care much for this debate anymore, but you're quite obviously wrong.
Exactly. By all means, let's continue "losing our shit" because it's entertaining to say the least. Liverpool fans wanna be outraged at the ref when there isn't much to be outraged at, Kane missed the pen but the rest of the decisions were fine.
I'm not, though. VAR is to be used in cases where a clear and obvious error has been made. Overlooking a players foot being an inch offside while he's being grappled by a defender while a ball is heading into a crowded box is not a clear and obvious error.
VAR will also not be used for offside calls unless it leads to a goal or a goal is incorrectly ruled offside. It will be used to see if a penalty should have been or was correctly awarded, but would a marginal offside factor into the decision? Should it? If so, should the defender committing a penalty-worthy offense on the offside player factor in?
You're the one who brought up the marginal offside, and then made the claim that VAR would called it. If you're not prepared to discuss it, why bring it up?
erm... is Lamela 'active' at all during the nano-second that he is allegedly offside?
because if he then gets back onside, that's fine, is it not?
because if he then gets back onside, that's fine, is it not?
ahahahaha
How long is it until, I think his hand was in front of the defender? Offside is offside.
yeah, I'm gonna say Lamela doesn't travel from an offside position to 'tangle' with VVD so the Lamela offside is a load of manufactured olde bollocks, apart from being almost non-existent
conclusive proof here, Clive
https://streamja.com/p6j
conclusive proof here, Clive
https://streamja.com/p6j
So when is Klopp getting the charge/ban? Surely this is as straightforward as it gets?
At this point i'd say he probably wont, i can only assume it is because his name isnt Jose Mourinho or Arsene Wenger.
It is straightforward and by the FA's own rules he is bringing the integrity of the referee and the game into disrepute. It would be absolutely disgusting if he gets away with this, as he's been let off time and time again for various other things that they would have nailed Jose to the wall for.
I think the white line is not fully parallel to the real lines on the pitch which gives this impression that Lamela is about 0.2-0.3cm offside.
It would be useful to see the exact moment the ball released from the passers foot as any split second would have changed that. Would need to be frame by frame, because we are talking about 0.001s or so here.
Bottom line is referee cannot give an offside like that.
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Don't give a flying feck if it was offside or not, and it wasn't, but even if it was, isn't this what we all pray for, a slightly dodgy decision against Liverpool and their outrage?
This is so much fun
This is so much fun
It's great isn't it?Don't give a flying feck if it was offside or not, and it wasn't, but even if it was, isn't this what we all pray for, a slightly dodgy decision against Liverpool and their outrage?
This is so much fun
So I gather from the pointless argument over offsides that Klopp never did get charged for his comments?
VAR would check. If their image shows him to be offside, even by 1 millimeter, they would call the offside.
@montpelier man what are you even going on about?
He’s just zis guy, y’know?