It's a weird argument to make - a big reason why they were so good was also because of City for a while. These things don't happen in a vacuum, if it hadn't been City, another rival would have emerged.
We finished second twice behind Chelsea since their takeover and three times behind City since theirs.
I think there's some difference between Liverpool's 97 points in 2018/19 and 92 points last season (only 1 points behind City in those 2 seasons) and our 81 points (19 less than City) and 74 (12 less than City) in two seasons where we finished 2nd.
Thank you for showing that you didn't understand anything from my post. I didn't even write that he will quit or that he certainly quitted the Dortmund job, as i just can not know what really happend behind the scenes. So as long as you are not some insider with more information than everybody else here, get off your high horse, you are just guessing and making it look like you know more than other people in this thread.
Google Dunning-Kruger effect. Maybe you will get it that it describes exactly what you are doing. Overconfidence in your opinion without knowing anything.
The state of this.Congrats, you are improving. From "certain" statements like "Klopp isn't quiting" to "almost definitely".
If people’s opinions on a public forum rub you the wrong way this much I’d maybe consider giving up spending time on the internet or maybe, just maybe, taking things with a pinch of salt if you don’t agree with it. Like everyone else on here saying he’s going to quit (presumably without inside knowledge, and yet you have no problem with them, just my opinion though), my opinion is that he won’t quit and then I listed reasons why I thought that. It’s called having an opinion and backing it up with an explanation, there’s no high horse, apart from you writing that nonsense and almost definitely having to google the spelling for Dunning-Kruger.
There’s no difference in being second, no matter the points
Yes and no. But agree to disagree.
Yeah no. They challenged for the league till the last round. In our case we were out of the race by December/Feb respectively.
Jesus mate, so you didn't take umbrage with me disagreeing that Klopp will quit, you disagreed with the way I disagreed and that's what sparked the high horse rant? You realise you sound like that bloke that writes to the council when his neighbours hedge grows too high?Just think you expressed your opinion in a very unlikeable and arrogant way as if you would know better, while everybody else is able to write his/her opinion in a "normal" way. Sorry if that is not understandable for you. But now that you say it, maybe i'll write to the council about it. Stockholm, right?
I would suggest it's more or less given that all posts on here or any forum are people's opinions unless they state otherwise they have inside info, then you know for sure it's 110% someone's opinion and definitely bullshit. You're the only person who thinks I was stating my opinion as a fact.
Anyway, let's move on from this now, it's boring for everyone else to read. I apologise if you thought me disagreeing with another poster was me presenting my opinion as a fact. Even though it will be when he gets sacked and takes the money!
Are you trying to make Jurgen into a checkbook manager?
Many of teams has learned to pin down their fullbacks deep and preventing from hoofing the ball to their forwards, forcing them to play through their midfield which was only supposed to press. So yea, kinda found out.
You make some great points. Unless the club is in absolute shambles like we were last year, a change of a (previously) successful manager is going to make the club almost always worse off. Unless they are taken over, I cannot imagine Liverpool being able to attract or afford the demands of a tier 1 manager, so they will most likely again go for someone like Klopp v.2014. This is a gamble, since it could very easily mean another Rodgers or the list of flops they've had as managers since the 1990s.
Not anymore they don't.
He's not been backed like Pep, but its a bit of a myth to suggest he's not had plenty of money to spend, it's just now being spent poorly.
It’s not a myth at all, for the level of team he has built the club have not spent anywhere near enough
Or have they spent like a normal team and not one spoilt by oil?
Liverpool reported the second largest revenue in the world this season and yet their net transfer spend is way lesser than even United. Klopp has done an insane job but sooner or later it starts showing up
To be more granular in terms of the spending, hasn't Klopp been more hands on in terms of the players he wanted to sign? I think I read that someone like Nunez was the result of him pushing for it, no? Maybe he's being backed, but he's just not very good at refreshing his side?
High wages, plus they have Thiago?
I don’t think Thiago is better than Jorginho and even if he is doesn’t Jorginho sit deeper?
They’ll go for the cheap “I’m just thankful to be here” promising manager instead of the “I need a new squad to win things now” proven manager. So Thomas Frank
An upgrade on Fabinho or Henderson isn't really a benchmark to buy any longer. Fabinho in particular is truly terrible. They thought they'd get Bellingham if they wait a year, but hey.
I completely disagree. They need anybody, bodies and numbers.
