I love the club Juventus. I find Juventuz amusing and currently in a meltdown .
Go discuss serious Juventus some where else
Go discuss serious Juventus some where else
Juventuz goes into meltdown
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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tbf there is a danish poster on there who is alright, but the rest would just melt. Physically.Actually, feck it, let's sell them Pogba again and buy him back a window later, just because we can.
It's probably been mentioned, but why do they call us Manchester Union?
Its the racism and prayers for injury that bother me
Actually, feck it, let's sell them Pogba again and buy him back a window later, just because we can.
David trezeguet was the best striker in the world?
Hey I am just translating stuff. He said one of the best strikers in the world
Tbf he was once. For a period
They probably hate El Fenomeno too since he played for Inter
I know. It wasn't at you but that post.
He was good but he wasn't better than Henry and even Anelka was better imo
I think he was better then Anelka (longetivity and all) but he was nowhere near to Henry. The funny thing is that they did what we did with Pogba with Henry.
Used as a scapegoat just to put an end to a saga.
The trial was full of inconsistencies to begin with and we had to accept the punishment or italy could not compete in the world cup that summer.
We weren't given anywhere near enough time to even make a proper defence and evidence was being leaked to the public as well.
It was all a very unprofessional way of dealing with a case of such importance we literally had both arms tied behind our backs.
Lazio Fiorentina and ac milan were guilty of the same rulings yet only juve managed to get relegated.
We are currently in the middle of a lengthy fight against the italian FA for the way they dealt with it and trying to take it to trial.
There is talk that they will hand back our league titles of 2005 and 2006 if we do not persue the case further.
Those league titles were later found to be clear of any corruption that was thought had happened. That is not a lie you can even look it up.
All of italy laughed and treated us like trash for being relegated that is why we currently do not care if we are making the league unfair by taking all of our competitors best players.
Like I said in another reply both the 2005 and 2006 league titles were found to have not been manipulated.Do you honestly think he was "Being a cnut" because he didn't like the refee's haircuts, or the way they dressed?
Or do you think it was in some way possibly linked to the way they refereed football games? Perhaps games that involved his club?
Yes there was some shady stuff going on with Moggi but that doesn't necessaeily mean he was fixing matches as it has not been able to be proven that he or Juve match fixed.
There was even false allegations of a referee claiming Moggi locked him in the Juve locker room with other Juventus members.
The camera footage showed that had not been the case.
Juve was just an easy target and at the time and they needed everything cleared up pretty quickly before the world cup started.
Hmm. Thanks for the reply. Why do you think Juventus were used as a scapegoat instead of Lazio, Fiorentina or AC Milan?
generally though they make scapegoats out of dispensables. For instance if there were a scandal in england which had United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs involved, it will be highly unlikely that united will be a scapegoat. If they want to make someone a scapegoat they find someone like Swansea or sunderland, clubs which may not enjoy a lot of global support.
I know literally nothing about this but I would guess choosing the champions to relegate could be because of the world cup and the pressure to look bold and decisive.
Honestly I don't know why but Ac Milan were able to get their director Galliani just 1 year ban. Having the Prime minister of italy as their president I'm sure had something to do with them not being relegated.
Fiorentina and Lazio I don't know why they got off lightly.
Inter Milan were the luckiest as their phone calls only came to surface after the statute of limitations passed of 5 years.
They would not have won even half the trophies they won if those calls were not hidden for so long.
I think relegating the Champions at the time was just an easy way for them to put an end to the saga and make everyone else happy at the expense of Juve.
Like I said earlier we were fighting a case with both arms tied behind our back, it was also bad timing as the club had lost its main president Gianni AngellI just a few years prior and if he were alive there was no way Juve would have been relegated.
So Milan shouldn't have even been in the 06/07 CL to be able to knock us out
Italian football (not Juve) has never really recovered has it? Serie A used to be the league when I was growing up in the 90's and even early 2000's.
CL misses the presence of big Italian teams.
@Vialli_92 Alright. Being a scapegoat implies innocence though. Did Juventus not do anything wrong in this saga at all? Did they not deserve any sort of punishment?
Well, you don't laugh at a normal forum. And the most Juventus fans I know aren't as stupid as those on this forum.
Serie A was already slowly declining and that just sped up the proces by double or triple in my opinion.
We were punished more severely than anyone else by a huge margin. Other guilty teams were given a slap on the wrist and Inter completely getting away with everything and taking our best players because they had friends very high up allowing them to go onto success that was not earned and at the expense of us.
Moggi probably deserved a long ban but the punishment we were given was completely unfair especially seeing as we were not the only team involved in all of that.
There was laws changed just so we could be relegated at the time. They wanted us to take the fall for the whole league simple as that.
If it turned out we were influencing refs and it was given us an advantage in the league then fair enough I would not complain. How ever that was not the case and we were punished and our whole brand and reputation still has not fully recovered since then.
I dont know what will come of the trial but if we at least get out titles back and our name cleared it's better than nothing.
I dont know what will come of the trial but if we at least get out titles back and our name cleared it's better than nothing.
How much did he pay you to say that?
6 footballs and breakfast
Juventus being treated more harshly and them being innocent are not the same thing though.
Lets keep this thread for meltdown chaps.
You are one to talk, you fickle minded hypocritical peasant
With regard to as-95's quote, they sound like the ignorant rednecks that post on the NASCAR forums I read.
I assume all of you know what NASCAR is.
I assume all of you know what NASCAR is.
We are not poor or stupid so no.
Wouldn't be surprised if there were rednecks posting on Juventuz. Actual Italians on that forum are an extreme minority.
The 450m in damages probably wouldn't hurt either.
Which is a fact that shouldn't be used against them. The EPL has to thank English being the lingua franca of the world for a lot of its popularity, and same goes for its forums like Redcafe. It is hard to have all (Italian and non-Italian) Juventus fans on one forum because of this, and same goes for German, Spanish and French clubs.
No chance of that happening. The FIGC is a non profit organisation so even if we win the damages claim of €450 million I don't know who is going to pay it.
Celtics last good team
Still means it's not fair to use them to judge the real Juve fans though.
Well, I think his point is that they should also be considered real Juve fans, Italian or not. And an internet forum should never be used as a barometer of the entire fanbase regardless.
I remember them laughing at the prospect of us failing to get Pogba and ending up with the likes of Matuidi..
A couple of months on from that, and now Di Marzio is reporting that Juve are meeting with PSG in talks to discuss a fee for Matuidi!
You can't make this up.
That poor lot!
A couple of months on from that, and now Di Marzio is reporting that Juve are meeting with PSG in talks to discuss a fee for Matuidi!
You can't make this up.
That poor lot!
Nice touch.
"You are delusional and salty."
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