You have never seen him play, confirmed. Talking out of your ass mate.I'll explain it further for you. When the ball is in the air Varane/Maguire will not only win it but will actually keep possession. I'm sure this isn't counted as a pass but it's far more important. Similarly when fighting with an opponent Varane is much more likely to win it cleanly and keep possession. Lisandro will just put it out of play or boot it.
And yes he is slow
I can see Martinez/Varane being the favoured partnership to start with.That pretty much confirms he's not being bought to play DM doesn't it
He never was being bought as a DM, people are just projecting their desire for us to buy one onto this signing. We do need a DM signing though.That pretty much confirms he's not being bought to play DM doesn't it
They are learning off the back of Judge/Woodward's approach. It's like a Thai wet market shopkeeper bargaining approach.also liking that its 41+4, not 40+5 or 45+5...but 41+4. I just like that level of shithousery
Think you should get that FIFA scouting badgeSeems like our most likely CB signing at this point. I'm excited. Heres some of my posts about Lisandro Martinez as I've kept an eye on him and first saw him breakthrough in the Argentine league as an outstanding player
So if we do sign him and he turns out to be rubbish, I'll fully accept responsibility On the other hand...
Isn't it obvious that poster is a wum?You have never seen him play, confirmed. Talking out of your ass mate.
I think Martinez will get a run at DM during the preseason. His versatility is what I like about this signing and ten Hag will know how to get the best out of him.He never was being bought as a DM, people are just projecting their desire for us to buy one onto this signing. We do need a DM signing though.
This is the issue, isn’t it? Our defenders really don’t stand much of a chance.Wonder what CB we'll waste £40m on next summer when this one gets exposed by the lack of a DM
Its strange that we have not been linked to Gnabry at all.Maybe Gnabry/Asensio, think Dembele only goes to Chelsea if he leaves Barca
Its strange that we have not been linked to Gnabry at all.
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Yeah and he said he's better at CB.I think Martinez will get a run at DM during the preseason. His versatility is what I like about this signing and ten Hag will know how to get the best out of him.
Same as the Raphinha stuff, stay in your lane and stick to your cast offs.Embarrassing stuff from Arsenal, he's never going there if we're interested.
Ah yes agreed apologiesI think you misread my post. I’m basically agreeing with you!
Maybe I didn’t explain myself but we are signing just two Dutch based players and one of those is an Argentinian international. If we signed Bissouma, Rice etc in one window there wouldn’t be this nonsense about signing too many EPL players.
Unzipping time? A bit premature, no?No, it’s wood.
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That does actually explain it more, so there's that. You're totally wrong and you have no clue what your talking about, but at least your point is clear now. Just out of curiosity, you follow Ajax, the Dutch league, Argentina national team? You seem to think you know a lot about the guy, wonder what matches you base your verdict on.I'll explain it further for you. When the ball is in the air Varane/Maguire will not only win it but will actually keep possession. I'm sure this isn't counted as a pass but it's far more important. Similarly when fighting with an opponent Varane is much more likely to win it cleanly and keep possession. Lisandro will just put it out of play or boot it.
And yes he is slow
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He is Ajax's player of the season.So, is this guy any good? Never seen him play, and always though that Timber was their best defender since we were liked with him.
Martinez is meant to be quite physically strong I thought? Shorter sure, but certainly not weak.I'll explain it further for you. When the ball is in the air Varane/Maguire will not only win it but will actually keep possession. I'm sure this isn't counted as a pass but it's far more important. Similarly when fighting with an opponent Varane is much more likely to win it cleanly and keep possession. Lisandro will just put it out of play or boot it.
And yes he is slow
I disagree. EtH said he wasn’t good enough to play DM as he lacked the running power. Think he would be an emergency midfield option in games where we had injury problems, etc…Dunno why people are arguing whether he will play CB or DM.
He plays both positions.
He has played in both positions for Ten Hag.
He can do again in the future. This isn't a difficult concept to comprehend.
I can guarantee he's never watched him. There's no way you can be this wrong about a player.That does actually explain it more, so there's that. You're totally wrong and you have no clue what your talking about, but at least your point is clear now. Just out of curiosity, you follow Ajax, the Dutch league, Argentina national team? You seem to think you know a lot about the guy, wonder what matches you base your verdict on.
And Arsenal want to sign him to play LB. Poor lad, nobody appreciates him at cbThis thread makes me laugh sometimes. Some people adamant about him being signed as DM when EtH has blatantly said he doesn’t have the running power to play there, and dropped him from that position for Ajax.
Also the way some go on about his height you’d think we were signing Warwick Davies to play at the back. Also, Harry and Victor are over 6’ and that’s been a huge success.
So still desperately in need of starting one, cannot get away from this feeling of Utd being overrun without a proper DMI disagree. EtH said he wasn’t good enough to play DM as he lacked the running power. Think he would be an emergency midfield option in games where we had injury problems, etc…
To be fair anything is better than Calamity Jones, Kung Fu Panda Bailly, HMS Maguire and Soft Scoop Lindelof. He’d become joint top defender next to Champions League Varane.
I’d agree if we play with current tactics, but if we’re squeezing them right up we should be less exposed, and the benefit of someone like Martinez that is nimble, anticipates and is snappy in the tackle, will shine through in my opinion. I’m probably completely wrong though hahaSo Still desperately in need of starting one, cannot get away from this feeling of Utd being overrun without a proper DM
True but you would get a wide range of answers on any particular player of ours or elsewhere in the PL if you asked on here. It's not a particularly good guide either.I have a chuckle when certain posters have an opinion on every player in foreign leagues as if their experts on every player. I watch football regularly and most of the players in European leagues I have hardly watched or heard of to give an opinion on their abilities or lack off.
The best sources are likely to be Ajax fans or who watch Eredivisie regularly.
That's not true though, Maguire is guilty of heading the ball into no mans land all the time. There is a massive myth about Maguire being good on the ball when in reality he's not, as soon as he's under a modicum of pressure he fumbles it with a hospital pass that puts his teammates in trouble. He also takes far, far too long to pass the ball out. Lisandro from the small sample size I have seen is actually quite good at passing under pressure, however I haven't seen enough to say this is always the case.I'll explain it further for you. When the ball is in the air Varane/Maguire will not only win it but will actually keep possession. I'm sure this isn't counted as a pass but it's far more important. Similarly when fighting with an opponent Varane is much more likely to win it cleanly and keep possession. Lisandro will just put it out of play or boot it.
And yes he is slow
All this talk about a DM is funny because people are ignoring the obvious even if others bring it up evefy time.-----------------------De Gea
NewRB----Varane----Maguire----Malacia
-----------------------Martinez
Sancho---De Jong----Fernandes---Rashford
-----------------------Ronaldo
-----------------------De Gea
NewRB----Varane----Martinez----Malacia
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Sancho---De Jong----Fernandes---Rashford
-----------------------Ronaldo
-----------------------De Gea
Timber----Varane----Maguire----Malacia
-----------------------Martinez
Sancho---De Jong----Fernandes---Antony
-----------------------Ronaldo
Option 3 would be ideal!
In fairness, by his comments I don't think he's seen much of Varane of Maguire either.That does actually explain it more, so there's that. You're totally wrong and you have no clue what your talking about, but at least your point is clear now. Just out of curiosity, you follow Ajax, the Dutch league, Argentina national team? You seem to think you know a lot about the guy, wonder what matches you base your verdict on.
I'm not in that box but we've done no deals as it stands so no one has been put in any box.Done dealio... The "one deal at a time" crowd have been firmly put in their box.