[WR10]

We miss the fat feck don’t we?

 

[bosnian_red]

Good to have him back in. Hope he stays fit! Unfortunately was overplayed when Telles had covid and got injured as he usually does with too many games.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

Hamstring´s in the air.. just saying

 

[Bwuk]

Probably jinxing it now but I think he’s a much better LCB than LB.

 

[#07]

Every time he plays Shaw makes a positional error. Every time. You can guarantee at least two or three times a game he will get caught in no-man's land. Don't understand Ole's eagerness to chuck him back in tonight.

 

[Nick7]

I have absolutely no idea where he was meant to be playing tonight. Was he a left sided centre back or a left back? Our formation in the first half was so confusing.

 

[spiriticon]

Will it be another 2 years to his next purple patch then?

I need more coffee.

 

[Art]

His 150th appearance for us tonight. We are a well run football club.

 

[Idxomer]

Shaw always takes a couple of games to perform, absolutely stupid to throw him in a role where he was supposed to be a Maguire and Telles cover at the same time.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

He was terrible. Hope we bin this CB experiment, where was he when Haidara scored at 2-0. Maguire was in the box marking 3 players in supposedly a back 3.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I have absolutely no idea where he was meant to be playing tonight. Was he a left sided centre back or a left back? Our formation in the first half was so confusing.

Yeah it seemed weird as at times it looked like it was a back 3 of Bissaka Lindelof Maguire and that Shaw was tasked with going in to midfield and really pushing there. The 2nd goal basically comes from that. Shaw has gone in to press midfield, Telles has to go in with 1 player at the back and has to leave the other.

Even if Shaw sprinted at full pelt he’s not getting back in position, so either it’s a poor tactic that was exposed or Shaw went rogue. Seemed to do it too often for it to be a mistake by him.

 

[izec]

He is just a dumb player positionally. All over the place.

 

[Nick7]

Yeah it seemed weird as at times it looked like it was a back 3 of Bissaka Lindelof Maguire and that Shaw was tasked with going in to midfield and really pushing there. The 2nd goal basically comes from that. Shaw has gone in to press midfield, Telles has to go in with 1 player at the back and has to leave the other.

Even if Shaw sprinted at full pelt he’s not getting back in position, so either it’s a poor tactic that was exposed or Shaw went rogue. Seemed to do it too often for it to be a mistake by him.

It was fecking weird. As you said AWB was almost playing as a centre back which backfired because there was no cover and no tracking back in front of him and Shaw was all over the place, stepping up into midfield, coming into the centre. It was one of the worst defensive set ups I’ve ever seen. No one seemed to know what their job was.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

It was fecking weird. As you said AWB was almost playing as a centre back which backfired because there was no cover and no tracking back in front of him and Shaw was all over the place, stepping up into midfield, coming into the centre. It was one of the worst defensive set ups I’ve ever seen. No one seemed to know what their job was.

The one highlight is when he absolutely let rip in to Bissaka after the back heel attempt that Shaw managed to get back at the player and clear the ball.

Agreed though, it’s just an absolute mess, not just the defence, the whole team at times just looks like it has no idea what it’s doing.

 

[Nick7]

The one highlight is when he absolutely let rip in to Bissaka after the back heel attempt that Shaw managed to get back at the player and clear the ball.

Agreed though, it’s just an absolute mess, not just the defence, the whole team at times just looks like it has no idea what it’s doing.

Like I think most of the players today were awful, but I can’t really blame them for being awful. Our tactics and set up were just so so so bad, we were set up to lose.

 

[Devil may care]

Best of the back 5, played a better game as a CB than the 2 actual CB's.

 

[MadDogg]

I have absolutely no idea where he was meant to be playing tonight. Was he a left sided centre back or a left back? Our formation in the first half was so confusing.

We seemed to change from a wingback system to a normal back four around the 30 minute mark. We stopped getting torn apart defensively around the same time but how much of that was us changing the shape and how much was Leipzig taking their foot off the pedal I'm not sure.

 

[White Fury]

Remember Jose's comment about Shaw ? "His body with my brain" or something like that. This guy is just not very bright ( aka low football IQ ) and we have alot of those type of players - Pogba,Martial,TFM,Lingard,Bailiy,Rojo,James and dare I say Rashford ( at the moment,so hopefully he improves ). I think Shaws been here long enough and he never convinced us he can be a starting 11 fullback, ( let alone CB ) its either injuries or hes unfit and fat, his time should come to an end. We simply need better.

 

[Nick7]

We seemed to change from a wingback system to a normal back four around the 30 minute mark. We stopped getting torn apart defensively around the same time but how much of that was us changing the shape and how much was Leipzig taking their foot off the pedal I'm not sure.

Yeah but before that, where was Shaw playing? It seemed to me like AWB was tucking in and playing centre back (he 100% was not playing as a wing back that’s for sure) and Shaw was ahead of Lindelof and Maguire for some reason. I don’t have a clue where Telles was meant to be. It was a mess and they exploited it perfectly.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Dumbest player I've ever seen. I used to take the piss out of Mikael Silvestre. Oh how I miss those days.

 

[GazTheLegend]

He barely looked like a professional footballer last night he was that bad.

He is brain-dead defensively and takes about 6 touches to move the ball sideways.

He might be one of the worst players at our club, and that takes some doing. Zero confidence. Zero attacking intent. Zero threat. Gets fecked by any half decent cross. Gets fecked by any half decent movement.

Why Ole shifted our formation to accomodate this cretin I will never understand, but on it's own is enough to sour my opinion on his management. Luke Shaw is a total disaster every time he plays.

People slate Brandon Williams (who I really like) but at least Williams is positive and physical. What the actual feck is the point of Luke Shaw.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Honestly there were times last night where I didn't know what his role was. One minute he'd be in the left back role and the other minute he'd be appearing in the centre of midfield with Telles playing deeper.

 

[Volumiza]

Like I think most of the players today were awful, but I can’t really blame them for being awful. Our tactics and set up were just so so so bad, we were set up to lose.

I agree. It seems silly almost to go into each players performance thread and say they were rubbish, they were all rubbish. For me, when all 11 players were rubbish there is only one thread you should be in moaning ... the managers!

 

[GazTheLegend]

I agree. It seems silly almost to go into each players performance thread and say they were rubbish, they were all rubbish. For me, when all 11 players were rubbish there is only one thread you should be in moaning ... the managers!

Fair enough but the players take some blame too. Fine, Ole's system was atrocious, but if any system is going to work it needs the players to perform. Shaw is a waste of time in any role right now.

 

[Volumiza]

Fair enough but the players take some blame too. Fine, Ole's system was atrocious, but if any system is going to work it needs the players to perform. Shaw is a waste of time in any role right now.

Of course they do but it all seems a bit pointless today for me. I honestly can't remember such an atrocious start to a match where every single United player looked so bad. I'm finding it hard to pick out players for individual criticism.

 

[FrankDrebin]

But our system last night generally doesn't get the best out of us. Players look uncomfortable and confused playing it.

 

[GazTheLegend]

But our system last night generally doesn't get the best out of us. Players look uncomfortable and confused playing it.

Shaw does not get a pass, he's been dogshit for a long time. Think of one single moment he contributed positively last night. I can't. And he's regularly at fault for these embarassing goals.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Shaw does not get a pass, he's been dogshit for a long time. Think of one single moment he contributed positively last night. I can't. And he's regularly at fault for these embarassing goals.

I'm not giving him a pass as such, just questioning the set-up which generally hasn't favoured the majority of our players.

 

[Nick7]

Shaw does not get a pass, he's been dogshit for a long time. Think of one single moment he contributed positively last night. I can't. And he's regularly at fault for these embarassing goals.

No one is getting a “pass”. They all failed at their jobs last night, but the set up of the team ensured they failed.

 

[Volumiza]

But our system last night generally doesn't get the best out of us. Players look uncomfortable and confused playing it.

Yep. Agreed, it just looked a poor fit from the first whistle and I'm surprised we kept plugging away with it for so long.

 

[Idxomer]

Ole asked him yesterday to be a fullback, CB, and midfielder at the same time. I don't think he's to blame for not performing well after coming back from an injury and being asked to cover for every hole in the team.

 

[MS4]

It was a small injury, we are treating him as if he had surgery. It was a bad match, Ole should not have picked him.

 

[Doracle]

He’s been very good this season and I didn’t think he did badly on Tuesday either. Felt like he was asked to play a difficult role and made a decent job of it and looked accomplished when he moved to his more usual LB position. Good to see him back and hope that, with Telles able to rotate with him, he can stay injury free for a while now.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

People actually defending him?

He's so bad, it's disgusting to watch. Where was he when we concede the 1st/2nd open goal from cross. He is marking no one. And during open play, he doesn't look like he have any clue on how to play football. Positioning is all over the place, passings are lame and my gahd, he's just not fit at all so you had to ask why is he even playing in the first place. Then of course Ole insist he should stay on in the 2nd half because why not.

 

[elmo]

This game is a better indication of how he's been playing this season.

 

[MadDogg]

Put in some good corners in that first half, particularly the first one.

Overall he had a decent match. Nothing amazing, but generally did what he needed to do.

 

[Eternitiy]

Superb player. Has everything required. Strength, excellent defensive awareness, immaculate touch and first time passing, and a very good delivery. It's just a shame that the tactics limit how much he is allowed to venture forward.

 

[RuudtheRed]

Shaw showed that he is a top class fullback on his day. Defensively, he was brilliant against Ferran Torres. Textbook play for how to stop a pacey winger with positioning and shielding.

Unfortunate to get nutmegged for the Mahrez chance in the first half - but he did well to tuck in and cut out a lot of other passes.

 

[Cutch]

He's a decent left back. I'm not sure he's ever gonna be a world beater but I think he's way down our list of problems. Good to see he must be attempting to improve on his final delivery seeings he's taking corners now and getting the odd assist. I prefer him to Telles from what I've seen

 

[elmo]

He's a decent left back. I'm not sure he's ever gonna be a world beater but I think he's way down our list of problems. Good to see he must be attempting to improve on his final delivery seeings he's taking corners now and getting the odd assist. I prefer him to Telles from what I've seen

The only knock on him is that he'll always get injured and be out for at least 15 games a season.