Cantona'sCollar
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"Overrated on the ball"?? He pulled off a nutmeg in his own half today. That's what £800k per week gets you. He's fecking ace on the ball.
"Overrated on the ball"?? He pulled off a nutmeg in his own half today. That's what £800k per week gets you. He's fecking ace on the ball.
You dont seem to need one to be be a first choice CB for LVG. We're looking for athletic, aggressive players who have a few extras on the ball... Also have to be rash and give opponents chances to attack by being careless with the ballDoes he have a brain? So rash and reckless.
Hardly considering they're severely missing him at the minute.It was quite a deal for Sporting. Sold this guy for 16 million and got a player twice as good for a year free of charge. Has to be the deal of the century?
no Rabona though?
The gif cuts off, but I'm 70% certain he Rabonas it 40 yards out to the right to McNair, which rolls out for a throw in.no Rabona though?
well obviously Rojo's fault then, McNair tries everything to make him look bad.The gif cuts off, but I'm 70% certain he Rabonas it 40 yards out to the right to McNair, which rolls out for a throw in.
That is just how this place works really.Bit kneejerk here today innit? He did not have a good game and should work on his positioning and rash challenges, but I still think he can come good.
Really agree with you. For example Gabriel Heinze wasn't tall or robust but he was damn agressive. Rojo is nothing like that. He will be destroyed by Drogba at his peak (when Vidic was monstruous too).My theory is that Rojo would be absolutely shat on if not for a couple of reasons; (a) he's a new signing, so avoids the grievance that others have towards Evans/Jones/Smalling where the fact that they haven't progressed from being very highly rated youngsters is held against them, (b) he's got a Latin name and is covered in tattoos so people think he's some sort of ball-playing, composed defender that is in vogue.
He gets a lot of praise from some elements, but I don't think he's very good at all.
My main gripe is that he's not imposing enough at all. He's 6 feet nothing, average build and doesn't attack the ball in the air. Smalling and Evans are taller, whilst Jones is built like a tank and is more aggressive in the tackle. Kevin Davies constantly kept manipulating him and kept the ball well away from him, and he couldn't handle him (see build up to their first goal). When the ball is dropped on top of him from deep he very rarely gets a big header away. Then there's the positional mistakes, silly tackles and suicidal passes out of defence. He's also rash too, I'm thinking of how he managed to dislocate his shoulder in a slide tackle.
He's not crap, but I'd honestly rather Smalling/Jones at the back. Rojo should be CB/LB cover at most for us. He reminds me of Silvestre, but two inches shorter, with less pace, and without the crossfield passing.
Its not surprising, some people wait ages for a player to have a bad game to then unload on them and go OTT.Bit kneejerk here today innit? He did not have a good game and should work on his positioning and rash challenges, but I still think he can come good.
The only reason he is here is because he is left-footed. Not good enough for a club which wants to be at the top of the English premier league
Vidic was shit mate. Knew he would be after 6 weeks, he didn't adapt quickly enough. Same goes for that Evra lad. Waste of money, both of them.
He is a 24 year old centre back playing his first year in the premier league, and so far has done very well IMO.
I wonder what the opinion of Vidic was after his first year?.
People keep repeating this kind of stuff over and over again. You made your mind didnt you.The only reason he is here is because he is left-footed. Not good enough for a club which wants to be at the top of the English premier league
I mean, first season in a new league, new country, can't speak the language, in a team that by LvG's admission lacks balance, without a stable back four for most of the season, going through a transition period after a disaster of a season under Moyes. But yeah he's shit, and will never come good despite him putting some impressive performances and probably being our most consistent CB. I don't get people on this forum at times. He's done well so far all things considered and I love his attitude on the pitch.People keep repeating this kind of stuff over and over again. You made your mind didnt you.
it seems some people bash him just cause he's not well known or some big name CB everyone wants. They dont care if he is playing good or not.
I dont get some people on this forum too and recently it has been beyond crazy here.I mean, first season in a new league, new country, can't speak the language, in a team that by LvG's admission lacks balance, without a stable back four for most of the season, going through a transition period after a disaster of a season under Moyes. But yeah he's shit, and will never come good despite him putting some impressive performances and probably being our most consistent CB. I don't get people on this forum at times. He's done well so far all things considered and I love his attitude on the pitch.
In your opinion he has done well. I don't think he would be playing for us if he wasn't left-footed based on his performances so far. His decision making is not good enough, too rash. Also his situation is nothing like Vidic's, who was scouted for a long time and came to us and started performing well soon enough. But then again I don't really like the Vidic/Terry type of defender and Rojo is in that mould. So there is that.
He is a 24 year old centre back playing his first year in the premier league, and so far has done very well IMO.
I wonder what the opinion of Vidic was after his first year?.
That is a baseless accusation. I just don't think he is good enough based on his performances so far. He is not getting as much scrutiny because he is new, and his flaws are getting swept over. I don't think he will be a starter for us very long, especially if Van Gaal ieavesPeople keep repeating this kind of stuff over and over again. You made your mind didnt you.
it seems some people bash him just cause he's not well known or some big name CB everyone wants. They dont care if he is playing good or not.
I don't like seeing Jones paired with anyone to be honest. Should be Smalling and Rojo for the rest of the season, but LVG clearly favors Jones for some reason.I don't like seeing him paired with Jones in the center of our defense.
How is he in the Vidic/Terry mould?In your opinion he has done well. I don't think he would be playing for us if he wasn't left-footed based on his performances so far. His decision making is not good enough, too rash. Also his situation is nothing like Vidic's, who was scouted for a long time and came to us and started performing well soon enough. But then again I don't really like the Vidic/Terry type of defender and Rojo is in that mould. So there is that.
He isnt in a Terry/Vidic type of defender at all.In your opinion he has done well. I don't think he would be playing for us if he wasn't left-footed based on his performances so far. His decision making is not good enough, too rash. Also his situation is nothing like Vidic's, who was scouted for a long time and came to us and started performing well soon enough. But then again I don't really like the Vidic/Terry type of defender and Rojo is in that mould. So there is that.
Yes, Rojo looks the better of the two at this time. What I meant is that they both seem the type of defenders who need to play alongside a commanding CB, they are players that play with the heart, not with the head, if you know what I mean.I don't like seeing Jones paired with anyone to be honest. Should be Smalling and Rojo for the rest of the season, but LVG clearly favors Jones for some reason.