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Not sure what you want me to "pack in." I've simply stated what happened last season. We're discussing consistency but can't talk about the entire first half of a season? It's yourself who's not judging an entire season.Pack it in. You view your player's form over a season, no? Every forward has tricky spells over a season. Every player. When the angle is 'he's shit', it's easy to find spells to back up the data. When he performs, it's 'a purple patch'. I'm no Rashford fan boy but to write him off, or indeed any United player, when we're in our current state is nonsense, particularly after last season. He's not the guy who's going to single handedly pull the team together. He's been poor. Cas has been poor. Shaw was poor when he played. As was Martinez. Bruno gas been brutal. Dalot. Varane. Everybody. Do we bin them all? I say we take a deep breath, try to sort out a system that gets us a bit more organised, keep grinding out the odd result, welcome back the walking wounded as they reappear and hope everyone starts playing themselves back into form. Rashford has still been possibly our most dangerous player. He hasn't taken his chances nor made the most of good situations he's created but he's still finding himself in there. I'd like Ten Hag to take him out for Garnacho in games rather than rejigging the whole front line but I'm certainly not ready to give up on him.
Agree...This or try some kind of 4-4-2 with Rashford and Hojlund uptop and Garnacho on the left. Bruno with a free role from the right.Would like to see him on the right with Garnacho on the left for the next games... I know a lot of people want him dropped. But really, the only other options are Antony and Pellistri. So .. I'd rather see Rashford and Garnacho used together in some way. Because if we are to come good, the most likely route is through Rashford clicking
Not really, I am not nothered to go search for links, but I think it was pretty much a fact 10 or so years ago.Do you have any credible info that Rooney had this in his contract?
Yeah guy think he's untouchable and needs to get a shock on that score,seriously doubt Erik has the balls when you look at recent quotes thoughFor his own sake, Rashford needs to be benched for a short spell. Not as punishment but to recover form.
Nobody knows what he thinks. It is up to the club and the manager to drop him.Yeah guy think he's untouchable and needs to get a shock on that score
If you're ETH you have to be wondering WTF. You inherited a shit Sancho, you bought a player in Antony you believed was great but has turned into shit, and a player in Rashford who was great for you last season (actually only over a three month period in a contract year) but has turned to shit. Truly remarkable.Yeah guy think he's untouchable and needs to get a shock on that score,seriously doubt Erik has the balls when you look at recent quotes though
Guess you missed the part where he can't score against set up defenses. The solution is conceding the ball for most of the match and sitting very deep so Rashford can get more counter attacking opportunities with lots of space. Otherwise he'll just keep giving the ball away dribbling at clumps of defenders.Seems like the debate's over?? Best season of his career last year, one of the top forwards in Europe. A couple of months of struggling badly in a shitshow of team situation and the debate's over?
I saw what he thought when he was almost subbed by accident, his face told me he's untouchable regardless of form.Nobody knows what he thinks. It is up to the club and the manager to drop him.
Personally, I don't think ETH is allowed to drop him by PRUnited.
Rashford is only worth his spot when he's gets the ball on a counter with space in front of him, he offers nothing otherwise and we can't or should not build around that.Ten Haag has no choice but to play him and pray he starts scoring. We have no other player that will score even 10 goals. Either Rashford finds form or we're done.
Agreed. But we did put all our eggs in the Rashford basket. How many goals will Garnacho----Hojlund---Antony get us? 15-20 between them?Rashford is only worth his spot when he's gets the ball on a counter with space in front of him, he offers nothing otherwise and we can't or should not build around that.
He should never have gotten his latest huge contract but kept as an impact sub or sold.
The question is whether he'll respond to it appropriately, or just pull a Sancho and claim he's being scapegoated, not before we get the usual outpouring of leaks to the media about how the coach has lost the dressing room and faith from the players, etc.For his own sake, Rashford needs to be benched for a short spell. Not as punishment but to recover form.
Sounds like a lot of guesstimating mate. Not read anything remotely credible about these rumours. Do you have a link from a respected journalist on this?With the recent rumours the club is unhappy Mount isnt playing for marketing purposes/him being the no7, do you think it's the same case for Rashford, but even more so? I imagine he was told that benching Rashford would make the higher ups very unhappy since he's easily our most marketable player.
The fact a football club is run like this in the first place is a fecking joke though.
This feels a bit like those rumours about Rooney being told about transfers and being allowed an opinion on prospective signings in 2014.With the recent rumours the club is unhappy Mount isnt playing for marketing purposes/him being the no7, do you think it's the same case for Rashford, but even more so? I imagine he was told that benching Rashford would make the higher ups very unhappy since he's easily our most marketable player.
The fact a football club is run like this in the first place is a fecking joke though.
Was probably celebrating City's win.Apparently he went out clubbing after the derby defeat. If so he deserves to be dropped for a few games. I remember someone did that under Fergie and he absolutely blasted them.
He will never be dropped. Ten Hag has just made that clear. Imagine being Garnacho or any other player playing in the same position when you hear quotes like that. Truly mind bogglingApparently he went out clubbing after the derby defeat. If so he deserves to be dropped for a few games. I remember someone did that under Fergie and he absolutely blasted them.
100%. Performed last season to earn himself a contract and now he’s back to his usual selve.Was probably celebrating City's win. The guy's a waste of space.
The thing is he turned up for training on time... How is it ideal though to have a player on a few hours kip. No way you train to your potential.Apparently he went out clubbing after the derby defeat. If so he deserves to be dropped for a few games. I remember someone did that under Fergie and he absolutely blasted them.
Seriously why do you care? He was pictured in a nightclub on an evening where he’s not working. Are footballers not allowed to have a social or private life? Or are they only allowed one when they’re winning? As long as he isn’t abusing his body (doesn’t look like it to look at his physique), battling an addiction issue or getting up to anything unsavoury or illegal, what’s the problem?Apparently he went out clubbing after the derby defeat. If so he deserves to be dropped for a few games. I remember someone did that under Fergie and he absolutely blasted them.
Apparently he went out clubbing after the derby defeat. If so he deserves to be dropped for a few games. I remember someone did that under Fergie and he absolutely blasted them.
Would agree, think is because his ‘footballing brain’ isn’t vary smart for the standard he plays. So whilst he has some great attributes, he lacks the wherewithal to apply them effectively on the fly and use those attributes effectively on a consistent basis.He's just not a good all round footballer.
It’s just typical for this thread, they just like bitching about every single thing Rashford does and blame him for everything that’s wrong in the world. They all had to bite their tongue last season but now he’s out of form they’ve come back with a vengeance.Seriously why do you care? He was pictured in a nightclub on an evening where he’s not working. Are footballers not allowed to have a social or private life? Or are they only allowed one when they’re winning? As long as he isn’t abusing his body (doesn’t look like it to look at his physique), battling an addiction issue or getting up to anything unsavoury or illegal, what’s the problem?
Yep. He wasn't even bad or lazy against City.It’s just typical for this thread, they just like bitching about every single thing Rashford does and blame him for everything that’s wrong in the world. They all had to bite their tongue last season but now he’s out of form they’ve come back with a vengeance.
Antony would get us nothing if he continues his form, so your guess is as good as mine. We've been throwing away money on bad signings and crazy wages for years.Agreed. But we did put all our eggs in the Rashford basket. How many goals will Garnacho----Hojlund---Antony get us? 15-20 between them?
Don't think he will pull a Sancho and fight publicly. The media will do the job for him though.or just pull a Sancho and claim he's being scapegoated, not before we get the usual outpouring of leaks to the media about how the coach has lost the dressing room and faith from the players, etc.
Not in the literal sense (I'd wager he's not as thick as Sancho), but in the covert sense of using his media contacts to start stirring the pot, cue us receiving daily pieces on how Ten Hag has lost the dressing room.Don't think he will pull a Sancho and fight publicly. The media will do the job for him though.
Yeah it would tell us how much he actually wants to play for this club rather than the money,agree with people who say IF (big one) it happened he would start leaking to mates in the media.Don't think he will pull a Sancho and fight publicly. The media will do the job for him though.
If Rashford pulls a Sancho, then all the more reason to bench him. It doesn't need to be a spectacle of a benching, but a quick timeout from full 90+ minutes duty to give him a break which really would be the reason for it. It's not as though we really need to punish him. He's just not getting it done and a benching would be a good thing for the man who turns 26 today.The question is whether he'll respond to it appropriately, or just pull a Sancho and claim he's being scapegoated, not before we get the usual outpouring of leaks to the media about how the coach has lost the dressing room and faith from the players, etc.
He should definitely be benched regardless, from a footballing perspective he's a liability for us, and the stats this season back that up.
Raumdeuter. Ten Hag lets him stay up front as we play direct.What is his role exactly?
