HJ12
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Reminds me of the original "Le sulk"(although a lesser version!)
Well, if you're judging them purely on what they've shown for United over the last 6 months, then yeah.Yeah he's definitely shown that so far hasn't he.
Agree with this. Martial is a nice footballer, does some nice things. But him strolling about the pitch doing much of nothing annoyed me. At least Sanchez put in some effort as you sayWell, if you're judging them purely on what they've shown for United over the last 6 months, then yeah.
Sanchez wasn't great in competitive games last year, probably still twice as good as Martial, by virtue of actually putting in some effort.
Apparently Martial was our best attacker before Sanchez came. Despite not scoring for 8 games in a row as well as having 40% of his goals and assists off the bench. Not to mention that his running in behind was still atrocious.Well, if you're judging them purely on what they've shown for United over the last 6 months, then yeah.
Sanchez wasn't great in competitive games last year, probably still twice as good as Martial, by virtue of actually putting in some effort.
Yeah fair assessment.I don't care, Jose's behaviour has been despicable. Martial is an asset who the club acquired for a lot of money. Jose should have been told to manage the situation better.
Even when Martial performed the fecker couldn't get a compliment out of his mouth for the lad.
Irrespective of that, if he's on 'strike', then he should be punished. It's out of order.
Some people don't want to admit the cut throat nature of the game.We've had him for three years now, and he's spent at least half of that time sulking.
Whether you think his most recent 8 month sulk is a legitimate grievance or not it's not the behaviour of a player who has the desire to make it at the top level of the game.
Cut our loses, sell him abroad and reinvest the money in someone that has the desire to help this club win.
Pereira gets shipped out on loan every season. He's put in 200% this tour and looks to be one of our breakouts this season. The bloke goes on loan when asked, he busts a gut in pre-season, and he just keeps going.All he seems to be doing now is proving Jose is right about his attitude.
Far more than a week's wage if I were the club.This doesn't put him in a good light at all. Regardless of whether he's staying or not if I was Jose I'd fine him a week's wage and have a word. So unprofessional.
He featured 97 times in two season under Mourinho. Claiming he's not been treated fairly is nothing but another cheap shot at our manager.Poor situation all round really. He's not been treated fairly by Mourinho who's never bought into him since he arrived here but Martial, instead of stepping up and proving Mourinho wrong has taken the easy way out and sulked and been unprofessional this preseason with the lack of effort and agent bullshit.
If he leaves I really do think he'll be a special player elsewhere.
Thats an ott assessment not a fair one. No loans or anything, lad wants to go and it seems he's on strike. That's not how you deal with things. If he's indeed on strike.Yeah fair assessment.
We should trigger his extension then send him on loan. Mourinho probably won't be here this time next year anyway.
No idea why this gets brought up as if its fact so often, maybe because no one gets a free pass as often as Martial?Poor situation all round really. He's not been treated fairly by Mourinho who's never bought into him since he arrived here but Martial, instead of stepping up and proving Mourinho wrong has taken the easy way out and sulked and been unprofessional this preseason with the lack of effort and agent bullshit.
If he leaves I really do think he'll be a special player elsewhere.
Who can blame him? Really?He is obviously using this as an opportunity to force a move out of the club and who can blame him? The situation has been handled terribly all round. If we can't get a replacement for him then he should stay and fight again just like he fought the whole of last season. Not that it guarantees anything because he was still ignored but if he sees no future for himself here then you can't get anything out of someone like this.
That didn't happen.I won't believe a single report regarding United and only listen to official sources. The meltdown from the post Liverpool interview was largely due to Journalists attributing answers to the wrong questions or ignoring the question all together and splicing together different answers to make them look like they are together.
Young players need trust and the continuity of starts to learn from the mistakes they make and apply them in game, not from the bench. There were several occasions throughout the last two seasons where Martial had come back into the team, done well and then was straight back out again. His mentality should be better but it would have been disheartening from his point of view.No idea why this gets brought up as if its fact so often, maybe because no one gets a free pass as often as Martial?
Martial was given multiple chances at the start of 16/17. The City and Watford results early in the season saw a restructuring of the team and Martial never convinced for the rest of the season.
In 17/18 it was a competition between Rashford and Martial, and Martial only won by the virtue of Rashford's form falling off a cliff. Martial was not great for multiple games in a row when starting and only showed some good performances just before Sanchez came in.
It wasn't. Better look it up.That didn't happen.
There was one fake quote about Pereira. The rest was real.
I also assume his girlfriend is in Manchester? If that’s the case, then there’s no excuse for not going to Carrington for training. He should have been allowed to be there for the birth, but now looks like he’s just doing what he wants.Say's all you need to know about Martial. He has talent but mentally he's just not with it. Delph flew home for the birth of his daughter and was back at the England camp in days, Martial just disappears.
Yeah. I’ve long thought he would be our next superstar player but he’s exhausting. People can blame moruinho but he had loads of chances and some decent stats masked poor displays, and when he was dropped-unfairly or not- he responded badly. Some players just force their way back in, nothing changed with martial. He came on in games and looked like he felt bad for himself. There were rumours of his toys flying over a bloody shirt number which I gave benefit if doubt on but If you want to start for united you fly home for the birth then straight back regardless if you’ve been told you can stay in Manchester. Anybody here have a job where they could just choose how long they take for things like that? 8 days of training missed apparantly. Disgraceful. No united fan can justif thatHe's given up on playing for Utd it seems. On his day an excellent player, exiting talent, but I don't think he has the hunger to make it at a club like United.
Let's just sell him for a decent price, and get a fullback or right winger instead.
She gave birth in Paris which is where Martial flew to.I also assume his girlfriend is in Manchester? If that’s the case, then there’s no excuse for not going to Carrington for training. He should have been allowed to be there for the birth, but now looks like he’s just doing what he wants.
Real team player.
She gave birth in Paris, if I'm not mistaken and she lives there too iirc.I also assume his girlfriend is in Manchester? If that’s the case, then there’s no excuse for not going to Carrington for training. He should have been allowed to be there for the birth, but now looks like he’s just doing what he wants.
Real team player.
I agree, a lot of it is down to the players mentality and desire to do well and put a shift in for the team.He just not have the attitude. Mbappe played right wing for France which is not his natural preferred position. He did his best and helped the team win. I’m sure when in future number 9 position opens up for France he will get his chance there. That’s how things work. Martial is no ronaldo to say he will only play LW or ST positions
He missed 8 days of training apparently.Since when did we send players we need on leave especially young ones and not agree with them a return period. Once again, if Mourinho is complaining about this then he needs to look at himself. A return date should have been agreed and stuck to unless their were complications with the actual birth.
What else was fake then?It wasn't. Better look it up.
If you believe his girlfriend, she had issues in labour, so a return date isn't necessarily that easy to determine.Since when did we send players we need on leave especially young ones and not agree with them a return period. Once again, if Mourinho is complaining about this then he needs to look at himself. A return date should have been agreed and stuck to unless their were complications with the actual birth.