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Which was 10-20 years ago. Do you believe that the PL is the same animal now as it was then? Kane is a better comparison and he was not even close to PL-quality at the same age.
This, play him, nothing to lose
Apart from the last three games... 4th is still a possibility, not a great one but still very much one. I'd love him to burst on the scene with three great performances, but you just cant see the coaching staff taking that kind of a risk
you know what hasnt helped us get 4th? Losing 7 of 9. Coaching staff needs to take a risk because nothing is currently working
Apart from potential CL qualification
haha yeah super cut-throat right now. Not like our attack hasnt scored from open play in like 5 games. Or that we have lost 7 of 9. Or that greenwood has been producing all year at the lower levels. Wheh, crazy CAF asking that maybe the manager who took it upon himself to slam mou over his treatment with youngsters to actually play our one ready youngster?Apart from potential CL qualification
Classic caf going overboard with youngsters because they smash goals at u18 level. Like he will get time and space to do the same in EPL games.
There'll be better opportunities for him to get games next season, under less pressure. Currently it's cut throat.
What is the big fascination with loaning him out? Do you not realise how big a talent Mason is? Ten years ago the Premier League was a top league. Today, the Premier League is a top league. If Mason is good enough to help the team in the short term (and I believe he is), then he should be given the opportunity to do so. Yes, Harry Kane was loaned out. It doesn't mean that Mason Greenwood needs to be. Not everyone has to follow the same pathway. I'd argue that Greenwood is more naturally talented than Kane anyway, not that natural talent is the sole factor in determining whether a player is ready for first team football.
Our attack hasn’t scored in the last 5 games because our team gets dominated and hardly keeps the ball. I’m sure our 17yo inexperienced attacker will thrive in a team with 25% possession and hoof balls out the back while having experienced EPL centre backs right up his arse crack.
Absolute diamond. When was last time he didn't score.
If he is loaned out in English football, I hope it's Swansea, they're playing great football, if he decided to play there, he'd be seeing more of balls which could help him to learn the pace of the championship and feeling physically surrounded by defenders or DM off the balls and on ball.
The thing is he isn't JUST a goal scorer either, he's a great passer, crosser, dribbler... he can do pretty much everything!
Take Sterling then for a far more recent example, he became a first team player at 17 and was given proper gametime. Sancho has reaped the rewards and Hudson-Odoi should have been.
Might turn out to be true but I would prefer to give him a chance than have to watch Lukaku, Sanchez or Martial play again, that would just be rewarding lack of effort.
If effort was the only thing that mattered, me and you would be playing for United now. And Lukaku and Sanchez don't lack effort, I don't know where this comes from. They bust a gut every time they play, they're just not good enough at the moment as well suffering from a lack of service like any forward we throw on.
Effort and desire is not the only thing that matters but it is a minimum requirement. Personally I have seen a significant reduction in both of these in all our forwards this year.
The season is over only in your head.
Lukaku certainly doesn't 'bust a gut' every time he plays. He has two or three big bursts of action a game that almost feel like he's doing it to make it look like he's working hard. But other than those couple of moments, his movement and workrate are terrible for what we should be expecting.
He went through a bit of a barren patch in February.
That I could get behind because there would be no pressure after that and the games are also easier. But giving him his first ever EPL start against Chelsea in a must-win, backs-against-the-wall game is lunacy.
Yeah, Ole's already spoken about easing youth players in, so that's not happening. And rightly so. Can only see something like that happening when we've loads of injuries but even then it's not ideal.
He is not better than Rashford however he is unquestionably better than Him and many if our other talented players when they where in the youth.
We are not going to make it, it was clear before Everton. We are still in it because the only aspect where Arsenal outdo Spurs these days is not finishing a job under pressure.Apart from potential CL qualification
Classic caf going overboard with youngsters because they smash goals at u18 level. Like he will get time and space to do the same in EPL games.
There'll be better opportunities for him to get games next season, under less pressure. Currently it's cut throat.
Yep
In short, I disagree with everything you said.
I know, we "just" need to beat Chelsea and hope for Leicester (or Burnley) to do a job on the other two. Not unheard of, what kills me is it's actually us I don't trust at all. All the way back at 1-0 vs WHU I posted the way we were going about things my gut was this six-pointer would just settle 5th and 6th and still feel that way as far as we are concerned.
Because he is such a big talent that he needs playing time now. Not just minutes either. And that is just not going to happen at United next season. I am all for brooding young players with one year in the squad, but he has already had that this year since he has been training with the first team most of the year this season. He needs to play regularly next season on as a high level as possible so he can take the next step in his development. He is one of our greatest talents and we should really not feck him up.
That is a fair opinion. I personally think he will develop faster and better with regular game time. Playing 90 mins every week. And he is not going to get that at United next year with the pressure that will be on.
And that would be on us. How many loanees have come back to play regularly and became top class? Last one I can think of is Beckham, unless you count the likes of Cleverley and Welbeck as top class.
Well, Lingard to take a more current example. You could also pose the question of how many of our talented youngsters in general has taken the step up to the next level. Its not that easy and for me its just plain logic that guaranteed playing time benefits an 18-year old more than warming the bench in the PL.
