One of the most overrated players in the world.
Which is exactly why he isn't world class. Wordl class players make their teammates stronger, Hummels has that "get outa the way, loser, i'll do it myself" attitude.He started to complain about teammates, the club and looked for errors elsewhere instead of questioning his own performances.
I agree Boateng and Martinez are better, not sure about Badstuber.Which is exactly why he isn't world class. Wordl class players make their teammates stronger, Hummels has that "get outa the way, loser, i'll do it myself" attitude.
Even if he drops that attitude, he's no improvement on Boateng/Badstuber/Martinez.
Hope the rumours are untrue, Bayern doesn't need him.
As would I. More and more I see of Stones he looks like he a midfielder played at the back.You can say that he is overated, but I prefer him over Stones.
God yes.You can say that he is overated, but I prefer him over Stones.
Its not just been the previous season either. Its been for a longer period before that. And the injuries have been for a long period too. I really hope we stay away.He was poor last season, like all other Dortmund players. He's been very good this year and hasn't had any injuries.
I don't agree. He wasn't actually poor last season, either. I tried to edit my post but accidentally deleted it.Its not just been the previous season either. Its been for a longer period before that. And the injuries have been for a long period too. I really hope we stay away.
He's not a bad player, but I am not convinced at all.
I'd disagree on that one. Most of the Dortmund fans would too.I don't agree. He wasn't actually poor last season, either. I tried to edit my post but accidentally deleted it.
His mistakes get so much attention every time, for some reason. It's like people never really wanted to believe he's world class, so they looked at every opportunity to point to the opposite. Truth is, he's been one of the best defenders in the world for the past 6 years with a few very short periods of bad form in between. Caftards love to call him overrated, to the extent that, he's quite underrated around here.
He had a lot of injury problems in 2014 but barely any in the last 18 months.
It wasn't his best season. He wasn't good in the first half of it but he had a lot of injury problems that year, as I said, and he usually takes a bit of time after an injury to find form. Also, their entire team was shit in those last months in 2014 and the first of 2015. He had a really good finish of the season though and has carried that form for the last year.I'd disagree on that one. Most of the Dortmund fans would too.
I dont have an agenda against him. I have no reason to do so. Quite like Dortmund as club too.
We still need a CB. This season for once we were lucky those positions were not hit with our usual curse...full back department got that! Our spine on paper is pretty average and a world class CB is one important piece.Never wanted him as I always thought he would be too slow. But after watchin Blind... Change of heart. But now I think what's the point we have Blind.
Boateng is head and shoulders above him meanwhile. Re-watch the wc final last 20 minutes, Boateng won it almost singlehandedly and Hummels almost bottled it.He's not that good actually. Boateng for example is a clearly better defender IMO. Maybe it's because he thinks he's too long at Dortmund and lost some intrinsic motivation or something but yeah, still inconsistent at times. Far far away from Rio/Vidic in their primes.
We do and like you said I can think of a few names I would rather over him.We still need a CB. This season for once we were lucky those positions were not hit with our usual curse...full back department got that! Our spine on paper is pretty average and a world class CB is one important piece.
That said for me there are a few I'd rather over him and younger too.
No. He is like an ersatz version of Blind, who isn't a very good defender either.Mats' father mentioned a couple of clubs which his son consider capable of fulfilling Mats' footballing ambitions, among them United, City and Chelsea.
I suggest a poll if United fans would welcome Hummels. Can a mod add one? Thanks.
Hummels had a better wc than Boateng overall. It's a bit easy to compare Boatengs great final against Hummels weak game where he wasn't even fit. Overall he was fantastic in all the other games. Besides the opener against Portugal he single handedly won Germany the game against France.Boateng is head and shoulders above him meanwhile. Re-watch the wc final last 20 minutes, Boateng won it almost singlehandedly and Hummels almost bottled it.
Boateng is the superior player, but the worldcup isn´t a great way to argue for that. Hummels played a fantastic tournament and was the stronger defender with the exception of the final (where he suffered from minor injuries)Boateng is head and shoulders above him meanwhile. Re-watch the wc final last 20 minutes, Boateng won it almost singlehandedly and Hummels almost bottled it.
He's certainly better than he's is according to the caf.He's the defender version of Cavani for me. World class reputation, but I've yet to see him perform well(according to his reputation). Might be harsh, but then I don't watch the German League much.
I appreciate your opinion (though I wonder how often you've watched Dortmund) but would be interested in a poll to get a more comprehensive feedback.No. He is like an ersatz version of Blind, who isn't a very good defender either.
I would hate it if joined us and in games went on one of his trademark strolls to the midfield with neither the pace or the desire to come back and help out.
Exactly. Fantastic World Cup, brilliant second season half 2013/14 and I think he has been pretty good this year too. Yeah he is inconsistent and has periods where he is error-prone, but he also had tons of great games, where he played at a level not many CBs outthere can reach.I don't agree. He wasn't actually poor last season, either. I tried to edit my post but accidentally deleted it.
His mistakes get so much attention every time, for some reason. It's like people never really wanted to believe he's world class, so they looked at every opportunity to point to the opposite. Truth is, he's been one of the best defenders in the world for the past 6 years with a few very short periods of bad form in between. Caftards love to call him overrated, to the extent that, he's quite underrated around here.
He had a lot of injury problems in 2014 but barely any in the last 18 months.
I don't think he'd look ay us this summer anyway but its nice we can pretend its our choiceWe do and like you said I can think of a few names I would rather over him.
Indeed.Weren't we here last April? He makes these statements every March-April. What a tit!
I'm sure someone like Hummels (jr) cares very much about how the public sees him, so it would make sense to start dropping some hints early in order to soften the blow/outrage when the news finally and truly breaks. SZ (Röckenhaus) who is usually very well informed in all matters regarding Dortmund wrote today that Hummels' decision will most likely be between Dortmund and Bayern, so I guess Dortmund's officials haven't written him off yet.i still wonder about the media coverage. *If* they were already discussing terms, it would be counter-productive of old man Hummels to talk to Bild about it.
My theory is: Some at Bayern want him back, others hesitate, and Hummels wants to put pressure on them. I'd say Rummenigge and Hoeneß can't again withstand the temptation to show the league who's Boss, while Sammer and(or Reschke are hesitant.
Or its just an advertising campaign on Hummels behalf. Hey Bayern, i'm single again... wink wink.
I agree. Two slow lumps, just perfect.I wouldn't read anything into comments a footballer made 3 years ago. Opinions can change so quickly. But I hope there's some truth to the rumours about Barca being interested. Would love to see him go there, because Pique + Hummels sounds like a truely awful centerback pair to me. They have the same weaknesses and I really can't see that working well.