And you’re comparing winning a titles with Dortmund by overtaking the club with the most resources in the league (Bayern) to winning titles through managing the team with most resources in the league (Ajax).
False equivalence. But worse.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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False equivalence. But worse.
Yep. The decision basically says you can’t punish Arteta for calling refereeing in this country a disgrace when the PGMOL has admitting as much several times.
He wouldn't particularly know, though.Apparently Joe Willock (who crossed the ball in for their goal) told his former teammates that the ball had gone out! Hale End boy couldn't resist helping us out one last time.
Just makes him more lovable
He’s the one who retrieved the ball and crossed it in. I’d say out of anyone he’d have had the best view.
If you've ever played football, you'll know that's not particularly the case. It sounds like a "gotcha", but the reality is he probably said to his teammates "yeah I think it probably was out" or something like this, but it doesn't mean anything.
When I was playing football a few years ago, we conceded a goal where our keeper misjudged his position and the ball went over the line, on a corner - 20 players (all minus the 2 keepers) saw that ball cross the line. The ref saw it cross the line. People in the town next door could probably see it cross the line. To this day, our keeper still maintains that it didn't cross the line. I don't think it was embarrassment at conceding a goal (he was shit anyway and was usually quite willing to make fun at himself for his own mistakes), and it the relentlessness with which he maintained his stance showed he truly believed it. He was wrong, he was theoretically the best player to judge it, but he was absolutely wrong.
So because your keeper was wrong it means Joe Willock is too? Your keeper had great incentive to maintain it didn't go over. What exactly is Willock's reason for saying it looked out to him? Anyway, the important point is Willock saying it was out looked to have been a big reason the case was dismissed against Arteta. Thank you Joe
That seems incredibly unlikely. Where did you read that? Have you got a link?
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nt-for-refereeing-rant-after-newcastle-defeat
6th paragraph, it talks about how the commission took into account Arteta's "heightened" emotional state as Willock told Arsenal players he thought the ball had gone out. This seemed to have been part of what formed their decision.
And another https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...t-James-Park-Mikel-Arteta-escapes-ban-FA.html
Willock probably doesn't have a clue. It isn't as if he has laser vision, nor access to VAR cameras and can take into account the curvature of the ball.
Ah. Ok. So they partially attribute Arteta’s embarrassing meltdown to what Willock said. Your ex player helped make your manager look like a total melt. “Well done Joe” indeed.
Yep, total melt but no charge and no touchline ban. Hallelujah!
Yeah, really something to take joy in.
Absolutely. Hopefully we get the job done against Brighton and make it a perfect weekend.
What a weird bunch.
What's weird about being happy your manager isn't going to be charged/banned/fined? I was not expecting this outcome so it's a nice surprise. After waiting a month for the verdict, I was expecting bad news.
City dropped points, and if you lot can get something at Anfield, this weekend will be perfect. Assuming we beat Brighton of course, which hasn't been an easy task for us.
Insert GOT meme *If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention*
Booked again, really needs to control his emotions.
I understand that he can be frustrating sometime (a lot of time for rival fans). But not sure what he did today is worse then what RDZ/Klopp/Pep do every other game. But he has got this reputation now so it is what it is.
I don't think he can, nor do I want him to tbh. Think that's part of what gives him an edge. If he gets booked then so be it.
I think there's a difference between arguing with a ref and mocking a ref. And Mikel seems to lean towards the latter which is probably why he gets in trouble more imo.
What the feck is this
?He's an embarrassment.
This thread is so funny
What the feck is this
He's an embarrassment.
Class
What the feck is this
He's an embarrassment.
Can't even wave to a friend in the crowd anymore. The PL refs are out of control...
Love or hate him (I can’t stand him), he’s doing a cracking job. Arsenal are fun to watch and they consistently get good results.
I wrote him off but I guess many people did. Fair play to the guy and good luck to Arsenal.
I wrote him off but I guess many people did. Fair play to the guy and good luck to Arsenal.
What the feck is this
He's an embarrassment.
Upon reflection I don't think it's that bad.
Just waving his hands in the air doing a bhangra dance doesn't merit a yellow card.
Whats even worse is the context here. White got a yellow card for shirt pull, but then Mitoma proceeded to do the exact same thing and got away with it. The protests from the players, the crowd and obviously Arteta caused the ref to change his mind and book Mitoma.
Sure, with the opposition fans they can laugh at us or cringe at his actions. But it's his action specifically that encouraged the ref to change his mind in the end and book Mitoma with a yellow card.
It's a game of fine margins, and to see Mitoma get a booking with the caveat of Arteta also being booked is a trade i'll take anyday.
Corrected
Appointed four years ago today. It's been eventful! One FA Cup, two Community Shields, 205 games, 123 wins. Patience was definitely needed during that horrible run at the end of 2020, and I gave up after we failed to beat Villarreal in the Europa League semi. But since the horrific start to 2021-22 it's been very good. We were 10th when he joined and a long way off. Now we're one of the best teams in Europe. Vamos Lego Pep.
He and Edu's recruitments have been good. Now they are challenging for titles.
Likelihood of this from 1-10 is negative 100
Don't sell us short. Negative 1000 atleast.
Hope he smashes the scouse.
Well done Lego.
Good to see the cross eyed twat Arteta losing.
It's ludicrous how he gets away with every failure and literally gets ZERO pressure or criticism.
Media darling.
Media darling.
It will catch up eventually. Another trophyless season with a mere top 4 after being backed so much would have to be questioned. Surely the end game must be to win the title or else what's the point.
They didn’t really improve their squad over the summer, so I don’t imagine they will get more points in the league. Rice is slightly better than Xhaka, Raya is similar to Ramsdale in level and who knows what the feck Havertz does.
Rice is much better than Xhaka.
The problem is they decided to spunk loads on Havertz instead of just buying a top tier striker.
The problem is replacing Partey and Xhaka with Rice and Havertz. Rice is the best of the lot but Havertz is so much worse than any of them it makes the Rice upgrade redundant.