Many people found it hilarious when he was throwing chairs around to get players here. Didn't think it would be so funny 2 years later when he fancied some more fees and was throwing chairs around Carrington to move them all on. Zlatan the mercenary only lasted a year and a bit, Mkhitaryan is long gone and Pogba's days are numbered. Probably not as fun now
Mino Raiola non-appreciation thread 2017-2018
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Fast becoming one of my least favourite United players ever. He’s mostly been average to poor here. Not even the managers most harsh critic can deny he’s done everything to try and get pogba playing well apart from letting him manage the team. He’s come back from a good World Cup (first time I can remember him putting more than 2 good performances back to back in 3 years) and acted the total primadonna angling for a move away using the narrative that he’s not being coached correctly. Frankly it’s bullshit. He’s unmanageable the way he’s playing and using the press. Who could manage that? He’d be out under Fergie 100%. What’s more worrying is we keep signing these idiots on huge money who don’t really care if they are here or at any other club who can afford them. They run as soon as they are challenged by the manager to improve. What a mess we are!
I think it’s fair to say under Fergie we wouldn’t have made half of these stupid mistakes. We are directionless and that comes from the very top. It goes beyond any manager. It’s those clowns with no long term plan appointing these managers that don’t quite fit at the end of the day and this is what we are left with.
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Thats all good but we fans care about the club or so we should. Seems to me Pogba hasn't told Raiola to shut up. If you don't understand an anger towards Raiola I can't help you. I guess it's good to whisper in Pogbas ear and speak shit about United legends.
Oh, this thread is the better one.
You have no white text, but you have to be joking surely
His agent is a parasite.
If Paul pogba wants to be a legendary player in football, the only man stopping him and distracting him from achieving that goal is Raiola.
He's milking Pogba on a daily basis.
If Paul pogba wants to be a legendary player in football, the only man stopping him and distracting him from achieving that goal is Raiola.
He's milking Pogba on a daily basis.
Everything about this club is just a mess at the moment, getting tired of it. Big changes needed.
Sure. Where did you hear that?
Who does this guy think he is? A couple of years ago he called Johan Cruijff a demented a**hole, and now this about United legend Scholes?
Know your place Mino!
Know your place Mino!
I was young, and needed the money.
Neville and Phelan wading in nicely.
This guy is an absolute stain. If I won the lottery I'd hire someone to egg him every day.
This guy is an absolute stain. If I won the lottery I'd hire someone to egg him every day.
No, he’s a snake and I’d expect nothing less from him. Scholes on the other hand, is my favourite player ever, but I find his comments disappointing at this moment.
What i meant was, how is it the fault of the club here. the responsability falls on Pogba for allowing Raiola to disrespect the club.
Really? Offering the player to our rivals and explicitly stating that Pogba has plenty of suitors is not holding a club to ransom? He is basically saying pay up or let (will) leave. Or, do you see this in another light in your own imagination?I'm sorry but how is he doing this exactly? I understand disliking him but let's not invent stuff.
I looked at his twitter feed, he's got a lot of tweets where he is defending his players from media attacks. I think this is just another one of those things.
The man is a football agent, his job is to find new contracts so he can get a share. Every player who has an agent will be doing the same. The only thing is, previously the life and work of an agent was all behind closed doors, today some of it is on twitter.
The man is a football agent, his job is to find new contracts so he can get a share. Every player who has an agent will be doing the same. The only thing is, previously the life and work of an agent was all behind closed doors, today some of it is on twitter.
Why?
When I said I'm hearing rumours it's more accurate to say I'm starting rumours. Even if there'd be more straight talking and the likes of Raiola would be out on their arses I doubt it would be a goer (at least not without Keane in as Neville's enforcer #ThePowerofThreeWillSetUsFree).
Is that you, Bobby?
Exactly. Jose tried somewhat to be bring some positiveness after beating Leicester by praising his players and then we lose to let press have another fun week at the expense of us and now this. We need a leader, not just on the pitch but even off the pitch. Woodward is not that. He doesnt know much about football with the way he has been working. Let us bring back gill or go for someone who can bring some unity at the club. This is not the Manchester United I loved.
Regardless of Pogba moving or not, Raiola is very bad for football.
All big clubs should just agree not to deal with him. This will force players to get new agents if they want a move to a top club. Or something in general should be done about agents.
All big clubs should just agree not to deal with him. This will force players to get new agents if they want a move to a top club. Or something in general should be done about agents.
The agent is merely protecting his player for unwarranted criticism, what's wrong with it? Why can't a top player like Scholes analyze our play and point out to Pogba's mistakes in the pitch or our poor technique and pathetic gameplay, I'm sure any footballer would be willing to take constructive criticisms in football from the legends of the game. It's when they come out with bog standard cliched punditry bullshit like leadership, passion etc that players and agents get pissed off.
Bingo. The anger (if you want) should be directed towards Pogba, not Raiola. If Pogba wants to stay here, he could easily say to Raiola to stop talking or fire him if Raiola continues.
He didn't. Sir Alex thought that Pogba had an extra year on his contract, and later tried to make Pogba sign a new contract, and we offered more money than Juve did, but Pogba didn't want to stay here. It didn't have much to do with us not wanting to extend Pogba's contract.
Yeah but it heavily involves the club, so combined with everything else at the moment I think the other fellas comments are fair. Absolute shambles.
It’s obvious Pogba the child is fuelling all of this. Get rid of him and never work with that fat tosspot Raiola again.
You’re always getting caught out by sarcasm, I swear.
Pogba and Raiola combination is too much of a baggage right now. I must say Pogba's actions are horrible, starring with letting Raiola spout garbage around.
Holding a club hostage is advising a player not to renew a contract or something like that. Presenting his client to other interested parties is well within his right, he doesn't work for the club and the club has a say in the matter by simply saying Pogba isn't for sale and that's it... Ever heard of a ransom where you actually have a choice in your own imagination ?
you never know.Why can’t people be annoyed at both of them?
This place is so strange. When Scholes was critical of Pogba last year the vast majority seemed to think he was out of order. When Raiola makes the same point, the vast majority seem to think it’s him that’s out of order.
Well considering Pogba was captain for the Brighton game I think saying he lacked leadership and passion is completely and utterly true. He admitted himself he didn’t have the right attitude. His head dropped, he gave the ball away a ridiculous amount and he looked like he couldn’t be arsed because things weren’t going his way.
I haven't been impressed by Pogba from day one. He's more of a social media star than he is a footballer. For me this is an example of supporting the club fully, but actively disliking one of the players. He's looked like an immature diva to be honest. I think Mourinho must have made him captain to pander to him. When you think of the lineage of captains we've had (until more recent times) and then arrive at Pogba, it's quite sickening.
Because Raiola is neither a United legend, not a fan. He also doesn't work for United. He doesn't care for us. We are nothing to him, as he should be to us. He is protecting his player, trying to get the best possible deal, which is exactly his job. Anything less and he would be doing his job in a worse manner.
The same can be said for Scholes (he was doing his job as a pundit), but he has allegiances to United and some players didn't like one of our own to criticize one of our top players.
Getting angry at Raiola is like getting angry at whoever negotiated adidas deal so they'll pay us less if we don't qualify of UCL. These agents don't work for us, and we should neither expect anything good from them, nor be angry at them when they try to get the best deal for their client (and by extension, themselves).
Probably I don't understand (might be an English expression), but what does 'knowing a fruit near an apple tree' has to do with anything?
That one wasn’t even subtle. Come on now.
Raiola is despicable
But he is not worth paying attention to, that's really all he wants
But he is not worth paying attention to, that's really all he wants
Mino is a fat cnut.
Think he's calling him fat? I would question the validity of those quotes though. When did Scholes say that?
It's more after that, he refused to deal with. And he was clearly never his greatest fan.