Of course they did, but as we've been discussing for 20 pages, United should have found it in the intervening 4 days
Yes, they redirected us to a road with a bridge our coach couldn't pass under.
Insurance companies do sell insurance against negligence and employee misconduct as well as many other things that could fall into the stupid category. It's just a question of whether you want to pay for it. I run an IT service business and have insurance to protect against data loss whether it came from hardware failure or something an employee did. I'd imagine a security firm would need pretty substantial coverages due to the nature of their work. Any business that hires another business will also require proof of insurance or a certificate of insurance with coverage levels. It protects both the client and the business because shit happens, just like Sunday.
What if a terrorist sticks a similar sign on their device?
Would be easy enough for terrorists to do similar. People aren't going to check a device like that until a controlled explosion has taken place. Too risky.
The MD of the company used in the training exercise previously worked for G4S 'where he was responsible for training guards involved in search and screening'.
That's where the serial number comes in. When contacted on the phone the contractor would have a list of legit serial numbers. Or the club itself might have the list. No one would have to touch the 'bomb'. Just read a number.
THIS IS A DUMMY DEVICE - IF FOUND PLEASE PHONE 0732532662 ... and the bomb explodes when you ring it.
Exactly.
What if terrorists start using explosive packets of monster munch?
a) Well shows they need some extra training on where to look.
Those Flamin' Hot ones are a bit dangerous to be fair.
at this security agency.It's not like there 5 different designs for a bomb though, is it? They can literally come in all shapes and sizes, and look a hundred different ways. It isn't a Bugs Bunny cartoon where its just that classic textbook bomb look.
Surely they could have an official number for all things bombs, with a redirectory function for companies that are licensed to deal with such things. So the number on the bomb would be a familiar short number, similar to 999, and then if the service is digital, it would also have a company number that you enter after you've called the first number.
- and say: 'We found a device at OT. It's labelled ***** and has serial number *****. Is it one of yours?Though in fairness, the security company did sign a piece of paper saying they had taken all 13, with 75,000 people in the stadium, would you then trust someones word if they said 'Ah shit, yep, sorry, I will collect it tomorrow'.I think it's not beyond the ingenuity of man to safely ring the security contractor - perhaps the club might have the number or directory inquiries might be employed?
That explains a lot then.
We have heard one side of the story, and I have previously mentioned the club showed negligence by not knowing where these devices were in the 1st place.
They're trained to recognize a suspicious device among a number of non-suspicious devices. That's a distinction one has to be able to make, I believe. Training them to just "find something" is hardly a great preparation.
Nope, it's too much fuss and cost to set it up for very few incidents like this. Just don't leave these items behind.
I wasn't one of those posters and think it's a bit silly to try and link this to the inept way the football team has been run in recent years but does this statement really clarify how a random member of the public spotted this device when no one within the club did within 4 days?
Why would the club care? It was a test ran by outside services company that did not interest the club. They allowed them to use the stadium trusting them to do their job half properly.
You are on a forum where people say it's a "disgrace" when a team only manages a 2-2 draw.
Then put the directory on the internet. That wouldn't cost much. One extra page on a .gov website.
