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Pogba wants to move on, Raiola is escalating. It is quite obvious. As i said a while ago, if Real/Barca/Juve cough up a respectable sum in the summer, he is gone.
So he needs to be carried?
Not anymore..(going after his players) Just my guess
His comments the other day were just to smooth things over until the summer. No doubt we're in for a saga of him trying to get a move.
No, the fact I have pictures up of the nationalities I am accused of being xenophobic too and of black players makes people calling me racist or xenophobic because I don’t like Paul Pogba absurd.
So does the fact you have said pictures up at your house suggest your opinions are more valid than someone without?
Thats a bad habit thats creeping on here. The match thread on Boxing day had posters jumping on someone, calling them racist etc then it turns out he was mixed race.
Think I was called a typical little englander also even though Im not English.
I thought this, seemed like he'd been dropped to me but you can't say anything speculative about Pogba on this forum anymore without having an agenda against him. No one can afford him but he's free to talk to clubs as of next January so it might be wise to sell in an inflated January market. £80m anyone?
My impression is that we continued to prolong deadwood contracts because of our inability in recruitment.
The statement is cut here, it was in the context of winning trophies.
Yep. completely agree with this. Solskjaer has openly said he'd rather stick with what he's got or promote youth over 'churning' through transferred players. I agree with him to be honest.
One thing you can't accuse ole of is failing to get rid of deadwood players, squad is thin as it is.
With Raiola it's got nothing to do with winning trophies. Don't you think it's too much of a coincidence that United refused to meet his demands over the Haaland transfer and now he's not going to send anymore of his clients to United? Maybe I'm being blinded by pure hatred for him but for me this is all Raiola saying you don't meet my demands I'll put you on the back burner when the only thing that should matter to him is the welfare of his clients.
I was not referring to Ole. I was referring to.the whole period since Ed took over. Starting from that farce when a team of lawyers hired by us went to try and pay Herrera s release clause and failed (on the last day of transfer window).
No, it's because he went abroad and flashed pics with celebrities days after his manager urged his players to be more boring on social media. Its because Pogba did what others (like McTominay) didn't do when injured for a few weeks.
You are indeed being blinded by something because first the context was literally about winning trophies and potentially winning the Ballon d'Or and secondly all agents have demands and Raiola isn't different to the likes of Barnett, Mendes, Stretford, Zahavi, Joorabchian with the small difference that Raiola's clients rarely makes weird career choices unlike some of the aforementioned agents who for some reasons aren't as vilified by the press and football fans while being involved in shady deals and making themselves absolute fortunes.
I’d sleep a lot better knowing we won’t have to deal with a Riola player ever again.
Here we go again.
If he is saying that in public can you imagine what he is saying to Pogba in private.
Exactly. People should be highly aware of the media spin by now.
I see you have crawled out from under your rock now. Pathetic.
Ah so a different opinion to yours is pathetic now. Why don’t we make the Pogba thread a cult where only people who think he is gods gift to football are allowed to post?
It s not the same interview Raiola gave to La Repubblica
We're losing track of my original point which was any of his clients according to him have the choice of going to any club they want. With Raiolas latest statement he's now saying that isn't the case and it all points towards United not signing Haaland because we didn't meet his demands as the reason and not because of trophies or Balon D'or. It's just another case of Raiola flexing his muscle to show that it's all about him.
Identity politics is absolute poison.
I’d like the club to come out and say that, it would be brilliant.
His clients will do whatever they want but if one of his client tells him that he wants to win trophies, Raiola will most likely tell him that United is a bad idea. The problem here is that for some reason you can't see something very simple, his job is to advise his clients based on their requirements which is what he said in that interview, if a player wants to win trophies today, United isn't a place where he will want his clients to go. Ask him the question about money and see what he says.
I think the difference between dealing with Raiola and the rest of the shady gang is that at least publicly, most of them behave in a tactful manner. With Raiola, he has absolutely no problem dragging his client's employer's name through the mud to get what he wants. As you point out, he's not alone in extracting exorbitant fees out of the game, but he certainly is on another level when it comes to throwing his toys.
That I agree with, when he gets the green light he is clubs worst nightmare but that's his job and he does it for his clients, actually said that himself in one of his last interviews. But some of the other agents have sent their players in the weirdest places just for money which isn't the case for Raiola.
I'm generally on the side of giving Pogba the benefit of the doubt but he really needs to distance himself from Riaola and his comments. At the moment it looks like he's speaking for him which does not do his reputation at United any favours.
Aye I think looking in the long run I’m not convinced Pogba’s hearts in it and he wants to leave, if he really wanted to stay he would’ve binned that cnut off by now or came out himself and committed himself to the club and shutdown any rumours there and then. I just want him to be professional and give 100% and turn out good performances consistently while he is at the club for however long that may be.
Pogba would have to be an idiot to do either of the things that you suggested, while from a fan perspective it's a nice sentiment from a professional perspective it's frankly dumb to give up power to the club. First Pogba will have to negotiate a new contract if he was to stay and he needs to have the club in a position where they can't low ball him, he also needs to put pressure on the club in terms of team building investments and he can't go around committing himself to a club that may not be as committed to short/mid term success.
