It was Blinds fault he had to make that tackle or risk another Liverpool chance via counter.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 24
- Clean sheets
- 7
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 3
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's hard as nails is Jones. Love him, needs to chill though, nearly killed himself during his attempt at killing Lallana.
In the context of last man challenges and stuff though, it shows his capability. He's had countless risky moments as the last man, but he always seems to get the ball.
Today's was never a red, but the crowd and Tyler were gunning for it because of Stevie G. It was clumsy and late, not reckless.
I said earlier, I'm glad to see this side of his game come back. He was making more mistakes trying to be safe and clever. He's far better off throwing himself about because that is what he is naturally good at. Vidic did it for years and obviously got some unfortunate injuries in the end, but his performances are always in the memory. Jones is that type of defender, and hopefully he can get a clean run without injury to make his mark.
Great game again from him. Then again, he always makes me nervous, since he always looks like he has atleast one moment of insanity in him each game
That challenge on Henderson today could easily been a red on another day
That challenge on Henderson today could easily been a red on another day
Only from a poor referee.
I'm always nervous when he's on the pitch, he's a dodgy bastard to be honest. Decent game but he's still not good enough to be a regular in my opinion. Much prefer Smalling and Rojo. Having said that he and Smalling have done very well the past two games.
Just lacks the brain for the highest level. Absolutely no reason to give Atkinson a decision. Could well have been red, given the atmosphere and situation - and as a player he should know that.
Jones had to make a foul in that situation no ways around it. Liverpool would have been n a great position to counter if he did not make that foul.
Definitely, make the foul, but don't kick through like that.
Decent performance overall but he still worries me at times.
He also goes in for things with his head that are completely brainless, see today on Lallana.
He'd try and head the ball a foot off the floor.
He also goes in for things with his head that are completely brainless, see today on Lallana.
He'd try and head the ball a foot off the floor.
Only if the ref is an idiot.
Never a red card
Feel exactly the same buddy
I think he had a great game tbh. I absolutely loved how he took down Lallana, cleanly
Plus Blind got sucked in to narrow.
This.
I don't think any of his challenges today were reds. Football is still a contact sport, you can't go giving out straight reds for every "strong challenge". It wasn't reckless, his studs weren't up etc.
I don't get why we're so adverse to fouling and aggression here, its part of the modern game and the best teams know how to do it intelligently. I liked the challenge on Lallana, Lallana would've been a little sheepish going for his next 50/50. The Henderson foul was a smart one, he spoiled what was looking like a very dangerous attack and if you're going to foul someone, you might as well do it properly!
Only an idiot would have said his challenge on Henderson was a red, you see tackles like that every game. It would barely be classed as a dreadful tackle which I suppose it was and deserved a yellow.
Overall on Jones, I still remain unconvinced by Jones. Probably the weakest of the centre halves we have but then he is still only just 23.
Overall on Jones, I still remain unconvinced by Jones. Probably the weakest of the centre halves we have but then he is still only just 23.
still a bit dodgy but as long as he charges into opposing players and not united's.
That's a pertinent comparison for me, I was thinking while watching the game that he was playing that role for us, you need a bit of it in your team for games like this. He did walk a fine line at times but I also think it played it's part in getting our result. Great performance from him. Might have been my man of the match were it not for Mata.
I was mad at him during the game because I felt that he was going too close to giving the ref an excuse to even things up. Smalling actually gave away the most stupid foul by giving them a free kick in a good position near the box.
I can understand that. He can't play that way week in week out that's for sure. He certainly needs to mature a bit in how he uses his aggression. But in the heat of this particular battle I think it was justified.
He is utterly fearless, a bit like Brian Robson was. There is something to admire in that.
I thought he had broken Lallana in half 
. Just smashed into him. Jones never does anything less than 100%. A good performance though I thought, well done Phil.
. Just smashed into him. Jones never does anything less than 100%. A good performance though I thought, well done Phil.We aren't for the most part, it just depends who's committing the fouls as to which agenda we decide to use.
fecking love you guys! its obvious Phil has a man-crush for Juan (football ability wise of course... he was in awe of him by the end of the game (hugging/lifting him). So good to see that type of relation between our players.
Jones had a pretty good game as well imo. a fecking beast. keep it up Phil!
that tackle was never a red card. careless yes, but that is what you are going to get at least once in a game from phil jones.
hope we'll see more of this smalling-jones combo.
hope we'll see more of this smalling-jones combo.
Is he in the England squad?
I just hope to feck he doesn't get injured again. Want to see what him and Smalling are capable of with a run of games.
I just hope to feck he doesn't get injured again. Want to see what him and Smalling are capable of with a run of games.
He came in late, it was a counter (so professional foul) and he just absolutely poleaxed him. Yes, a red would have been harsh, but in a heated derby like this refs can make some stupid decisions.
Not saying it should have been, saying it could have been and that's the problem with Jones. He makes these dumb decisions regularly and he needs to calm the feck down
Too much has been made of his challenge on Henderson. Just a mistimed challenge that was never a red.
I thought he had a pretty decent game. Our midfield today did a good job of closing players down and letting our defense breathe.
I thought he had a pretty decent game. Our midfield today did a good job of closing players down and letting our defense breathe.
I thought the Henderson tackle was a little too close to the edge. Don't think it deserved a red, but it was probably more than a yellow (which makes no sense, I know). Was just too reckless, but that is Phil Jones.
If a Liverpool player had fouled in the same manner as the Jones on Henderson one. You guys would have been shouting for a red card.
No we wouldn't because it wasn't a red
Bollocks we would.
lol
Sure, ref's make mistakes all the time. I mean a ref could have made a mistake and sent off Balotelli for mistiming his tackle and kicking Jones too, but those challenges happen all the time and refs tend not to make mistakes like that often.
I think poleaxed is a bit much to describe it, having said that I do agree Jones does need to calm the heck down and it's the main reason why I remain unconvinced by him.
Can be rash and he could have got sent off by a weaker official but is committed to the cause. It's hard to not like him as a player. He just needs to tone it down on occasion.
I think the way he came rushing in made it look worse than actual contact with Henderson. Actually kind of similar to Gerrard's tackle on Mata before his red.
Never a red though.
Never a red though.
Maybe for 10 minutes afterwards during the heat of the game, particularly after Gerrard's red card. Once you take a deep breath and look at it though, it's clearly a yellow.