g = window.googletag || {}; googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || []; window.googletag = googletag; googletag.cmd.push(function() { var interstitialSlot = googletag.defineOutOfPageSlot('/17085479/redcafe_gam_interstitial', googletag.enums.OutOfPageFormat.INTERSTITIAL); if (interstitialSlot) { interstitialSlot.addService(googletag.pubads()); } });

Premier League Gameweek 4

macheda14

Full Member
Joined
May 22, 2009
Messages
4,662
Location
London
Was a dive though, should have been booked really.
It’s not a dive, he’s playing for it, but there is clear contact. I’d say it’s more like when a defender is shepherding the ball out and they get a slight touch from the attacker to win a free kick from deep in their own half. Never a pen, but not a dive per se
 

Klopper76

"Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"
Joined
Dec 15, 2015
Messages
19,949
Location
Victoria, BC
Supports
Liverpool
So all of United. Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs drop points.
 

Raw

Full Member
Joined
Oct 31, 2013
Messages
25,460
Location
Manchester, UK
Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea draw and we fail to beat Southampton. Ffs. Gonna be one of those seasons where we fail to capitalise on our rivals dropped points.
 

Sanchez7

Full Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2011
Messages
1,784
Location
London
I know we got a terrible player in Sanchez but Miki is just as bad. Completely killed the left wing after coming on.
 

Nick7

Full Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Messages
19,349
Location
Ireland
It’s not a dive, he’s playing for it, but there is clear contact. I’d say it’s more like when a defender is shepherding the ball out and they get a slight touch from the attacker to win a free kick from deep in their own half. Never a pen, but not a dive per se
He literally jumped back into Sokratis and fell to the ground. It was a clear dive. "Contact" doesn't make it not a dive.
 

DatIrishFella

Band of Brothers, Thief
Joined
Jul 4, 2012
Messages
9,597
Location
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea draw and we fail to beat Southampton. Ffs. Gonna be one of those seasons where we fail to capitalise on our rivals dropped points.
Liverpool, a much better team than us, struggled to win at soton. They're a decent side.
 

kouroux

45k posts to finally achieve this tagline
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
96,533
Location
Djibouti (La terre des braves)
Apologies if that's the case, I remember you being involved in that thread where I was getting grief left right and centre for suggesting that perhaps Pepe wasn't worth £72m and that the hype about him on this thread in the summer was ridiculous.

Doubt many would swap him for James now.
No need to apologize. Discussions are in good fun anyway. This isn't surprising, I watched a video of his arrival and intro to Arsenal (ITWs and what not)
Pepe looked shy and a bit scared, if he makes the step up, it will take him a long long time IMHO. Looks to be too much for him already ( Starts vs Spurs and Liverpool)
 

Sandikan

aka sex on the beach
Joined
Mar 14, 2011
Messages
53,637
They seemed to glaze over Sokratis bundling Kane over and then holding him down.

Yeah it wasn't the hardest contact ever, but you can't just shove someone over!
 

GlastonSpur

Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum
Joined
Feb 4, 2007
Messages
17,716
Supports
Spurs
A good point for Spurs. We've now already played 2 of the toughest away games we'll have this season and not lost either one.

It was a great game to watch and either team could have won (e.g. Kane's great strike that hit the post).
 

marktan

Full Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2017
Messages
6,993
Mikhi is pretty bad, it's just in comparison to Sanchez he looks okay.

Pepe had nice twists and feints, but no real end product at all.

Good game though. Very enjoyable watch. No idea why Spurs didn't bring on Moura, he's made for a counter attack game like this.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,594
Arsenal would have won if Lacazette didnt get hurt and come off for Mkhi. Mkhi handicapped them.

What does Poch have against Moura? Is he not fit? Its odd.
 

Dante

Average bang
Joined
Oct 22, 2010
Messages
25,280
Location
My wit's end
It’s weird how Neville and co are giving Pepe a free ride, his end product has been poor and he is all left foot. He cost £72m ffs.
Neville is always biased in favour of foreigners. If Pepe was English, he'd have been crucified.
 

Wiltord02

Full Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2012
Messages
1,327
Supports
Arsenal
Such a shame Laca had to go off. Sanchez was getting destroyed today and we gift him Mkhi.
 

ThierryHenry

wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM
Joined
Feb 8, 2009
Messages
13,722
Location
London Town
Unbelievably poor. Stupid tactics, individually stupid decisions from our players.

The front three are going to be wasted by this manager.
 

Nick7

Full Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Messages
19,349
Location
Ireland
They seemed to glaze over Sokratis bundling Kane over and then holding him down.

Yeah it wasn't the hardest contact ever, but you can't just shove someone over!
Kane jumped back into him before falling to the ground. Sokratis did not shove him down.
 

Amadaeus

Pochémon Fan Club Chairman
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
9,234
Location
Amongst footballing managerial 'Gods'
Arsenal would have won if Lacazette didnt get hurt and come off for Mkhi. Mkhi handicapped them.

What does Poch have against Moura? Is he not fit? Its odd.
Not good enough. He started vs Newcastle last week and look bad. Spurs squad is very overrated. Maybe it is even Pochettino punishing him for missing that easy chance last week. However, when all is said and done, Moura is not good enough to start for a top team. However, it can be said that Spurs is not a top team :lol:.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,861
Location
india
This draw just goes to show that top 4 will be very close again. Arsenal, barring their two main CFs are a very average side. Unless Tierney and Ceballos can have a huge impact they'll be very inconstent this season. Chelsea have more verve about them but little experience. And we're all over the place.

Spurs will be fine again IMO. They've better managed than the rest.

Also, how average was Pepe? He's good in tight spaces but seems to want to play the game at a walking pace and his passing/decision making and cutting edgeedg key moments has been severely lacking.
 

maniak

Full Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2004
Messages
10,216
Location
Lisboa
Supports
Arsenal
Nelson should've played instead of Mkhi, he's where attacks go to die.

After being 2 goals down it's a decent result, but I think we did enough in the second half to win it.
 

ThierryHenry

wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM
Joined
Feb 8, 2009
Messages
13,722
Location
London Town
I know Sanchez was possibly the worst signing ever, but at least you managed to get rid of Mhiki. Christ he’s dire, I hate seeing him play.
 

Lash

Full Member
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
12,542
Location
Buckinghamshire
Supports
Millwall, Saint-Etienne
It’s not a dive, he’s playing for it, but there is clear contact. I’d say it’s more like when a defender is shepherding the ball out and they get a slight touch from the attacker to win a free kick from deep in their own half. Never a pen, but not a dive per se
it's definitely a dive, he put his body in an natural position to simulate bigger contact than there was. He's trying to con the ref into a pen.
 

TheThingThatShouldNotBe

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Dec 2, 2018
Messages
92
Supports
Chelsea
They seemed to glaze over Sokratis bundling Kane over and then holding him down.

Yeah it wasn't the hardest contact ever, but you can't just shove someone over!
Kane stepped in front of Sokratis and dived deliberately to trip Sokratis on top of him. He did similar last week against Newcastle, although this was worse.
 

Castia

Full Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2011
Messages
18,487
A good point for Spurs. We've now already played 2 of the toughest away games we'll have this season and not lost either one.

It was a great game to watch and either team could have won (e.g. Kane's great strike that hit the post).

Your on a United-Like run

Haven’t you only won a few games in the league since like last March or something?

Title challenge over for both clubs anyway, a few weeks into the season and top 4 is yet again the goal which is really fecking sad in all honesty (for both clubs and Chelsea)
 

GlastonSpur

Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum
Joined
Feb 4, 2007
Messages
17,716
Supports
Spurs
Your on a United-Like run

Haven’t you only won a few games in the league since like last March or something?

Title challenge over for both clubs anyway, a few weeks into the season and top 4 is yet again the goal which is really fecking sad in all honesty (for both clubs and Chelsea)
It's currently impossible for Spurs to compete for the title given City's spending over the last several seasons. Our aim realistically is to finish in the top 4, see what happens in the CL and try and win a trophy other than the league title.