Rafael image 2

Rafael Brazil flag

2014-15 Performances


View full 2014-15 profile

6.0 Season Average Rating
Appearances
11
Clean sheets
4
Goals
0
Assists
1
Yellow cards
2
Status
Not open for further replies.

Orton

Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button
Joined
Feb 24, 2006
Messages
18,981
Location
bonnie wee Scotland
Love the kneejerk reactions after 45 minutes of football where the whole team's performance dropped. Especially Charleysurf who usually can't wait to throw in a dig at Rafael.
 

Nick 0208 Ldn

News 24
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Messages
23,721
He had a role in some of our most dangerous moves of the second half, what few there were.

Stoke will probably adopt a similar approach to Tottenham in the second half, and given how the 3-5-2 coped with such we might see a change in tactics, a decision which could suit Rafael.
 

Revan

Assumptionman
Joined
Dec 19, 2011
Messages
49,906
Location
London
An awful wingback. Lost without anyone playing ahead of him and his crossing is pathetic.
Is it? The only chance we created on the second half was from his cross. If I am not mistaken, that was also his only cross today.
 

Robbie Boy

Full Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2010
Messages
28,410
Location
Dublin
Clearly not fit. Thought he was relatively poor but who wasn't in that abomination of a second half.
 

SkeppyRed

Lineups Game Winner 2012/13
Joined
Jul 16, 2010
Messages
4,064
I will always be a fan because I can see lots ability in him but his lack of cleverness is a real weakness to the team.

Needs to be smarter, but to be fair we have a few players like this. Rafa's just the worst of the bunch though.
 

Varun

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Mar 16, 2011
Messages
46,782
Location
Mumbai
I don't think he's a good crosser. Improvement on Valencia, but he's not really great.
Good, not great.

He's a terrible crosser. When he does get it right he can put in a great ball but 9 out of 10 are dreadful. Either terribly scuffed or ballooned over everyone.
I dont even know what to say to that. Calling Rafael a terrible crosser and saying 90% of his crosses are dreadful is plain wrong. Even today, he put a wonderful ball in for Mata.
 

Cutch

Full Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Messages
16,414
Location
Northern Ireland. Stretty W3102, Row 2, Seat 129
I dont even know what to say to that. Calling Rafael a terrible crosser and saying 90% of his crosses are dreadful is plain wrong. Even today, he put a wonderful ball in for Mata.
You must be watchin too many highlights. He'll put in the odd beauty but he's ridiculously wasteful. He's said himself that he has to improve his crossing
 

Nick 0208 Ldn

News 24
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Messages
23,721
During Rafael's 6-8 game run earlier in the season he and Di Maria were arguably our two most creative outlets, so some of the responses in here are really quite remarkable.
 

Varun

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Mar 16, 2011
Messages
46,782
Location
Mumbai
You must be watchin too many highlights. He'll put in the odd beauty but he's ridiculously wasteful. He's said himself that he has to improve his crossing
How does him saying he has to improve his crossing make him a terrible crosser? He's not a great crosser so yeah, he can definitely improve in that regard. Calling him terrible is plain nonsense though.
 

Walters_19_MuFc

Full Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
29,683
Location
Birmingham
Lack match sharpness, but he still dives in unnecessarily, at times. Glad he's back, though. Although Valencia and Young have been great at wingback, with Rafael and now Shaw back, hopefully we'll go back to a back four.
 

Dargonk

Ninja Scout
Scout
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
18,763
Location
Australia
During Rafael's 6-8 game run earlier in the season he and Di Maria were arguably our two most creative outlets, so some of the responses in here are really quite remarkable.
It's always the same when a player comes back from injury. They look rusty and plenty of the people with agendas are straight on their back. Give Rafael a few games to get his fitness and I'm sure they will all drop back into hiding until the next time he has a bad game.
 

Bojan11

Full Member
Joined
May 16, 2010
Messages
33,115
It's always the same when a player comes back from injury. They look rusty and plenty of the people with agendas are straight on their back. Give Rafael a few games to get his fitness and I'm sure they will all drop back into hiding until the next time he has a bad game.
Nah, give him a few games before he gets injured.
 

Pexbo

Winner of the 'I'm not reading that' medal.
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
68,814
Location
Brizzle
Supports
Big Days
As has been said, a bit rusty and that was a hard game for him to come into. It was quick, feisty and he needed his touch and wits about him which he didn't really have.
 

Cutch

Full Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Messages
16,414
Location
Northern Ireland. Stretty W3102, Row 2, Seat 129
How does him saying he has to improve his crossing make him a terrible crosser? He's not a great crosser so yeah, he can definitely improve in that regard. Calling him terrible is plain nonsense though.
For a player that many consider should be starting wing back for us, basically the only outlet on the right hand side, it's terrible.

His strength is as a fullback in a back 4 overlapping his winger as a spare man. When he has to try and beat a man to make space to cross a ball when running at pace he's very poor.
 

Ixion

Full Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2003
Messages
15,275
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt after being out for so long but he's so reckless most of the time anyway...

Valencia doesn't create enough down the right and Rafael can be a liability and is so injury prone I wouldn't be surprised if we strengthened there in the window.
 

Sied

I..erm..love U2, baby?
Joined
Nov 28, 2013
Messages
10,348
Not a particularly impressive performance but then there weren't any in that second half. I still much prefer him to Valencia as you have some hope he could do something exciting when he picks up the ball, even if he does take more risks in the process.
 

Señor

Humongous twit who can't read
Joined
Jan 5, 2014
Messages
8,721
Didn't look great against Newcastle and Spurs but to be expected after coming back from such a long layoff. Contingency plans need to be made in the summer though if Rafael doesn't get his shit sorted as he isn't that good that he can't be replaced.
 

Varun

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Mar 16, 2011
Messages
46,782
Location
Mumbai
For a player that many consider should be starting wing back for us, basically the only outlet on the right hand side, it's terrible.

His strength is as a fullback in a back 4 overlapping his winger as a spare man. When he has to try and beat a man to make space to cross a ball when running at pace he's very poor.
There arent many Baines's around. I dont know how you can call his crossing terrible. How many RBs are out there who are better crossers? Must be plenty seeing as he's "terrible".

The 2nd part of your post is true for most fullbacks. Actually feel Rafael's good in that regard too, more often than not, he makes a yard for himself and gets the ball in.
 

Garethw

scored 25-30 goals a season as a right footed RW
Joined
Feb 7, 2005
Messages
17,032
Location
England:
It was a priority anyway. The final remark is simply nonsense.
He comes on, kicks/fouls someone gets booked, gets injured. That's Rafael in a nut shell. I stand by my comment.
 

Kag

Full Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2013
Messages
18,875
Location
United Kingdom
He comes on, kicks/fouls someone gets booked, gets injured. That's Rafael in a nut shell. I stand by my comment.
He made two fouls. Not really a big deal, albeit the second one was particularly silly. We were giving away too many as a team during the last twenty minutes.

Injuries are a probem, yes, you're right. And I stand by what I said. Liability is nonsense, most certainly after 45 minutes of football in a very tough game.
 

Borys

Statistics Wizard
Joined
May 10, 2013
Messages
9,169
Location
Bielsko Biala, Poland
We will be a better team once he gets sharp. Today he was poor but deserves some time to get back to his best. It's not like he's a big downgrade on Valencia anyway, who was beating his man with ease but then offered no end product.
 

Sassy Colin

Death or the gladioli!
Joined
Jan 29, 2010
Messages
71,312
Location
Aliens are in control of my tagline & location
Obviously I'm in the minority, but I thought it was a breath of fresh air to have him on the pitch after one dimensional Valencia. Actually was trying to create things, picking early passes etc

Obviously a bit rusty, but what do people expect?

People have such high expectations for certain players that when they don't immediately match them, they can't wait to criticise. That's why Nani has no chance unless he performs like Ronaldo every week, but Young just has to avoid diving to get an 8 rating.
 

BennyBlanco

fixated with Shaw's bum
Joined
Jul 21, 2011
Messages
5,803
I thought he was pretty poor, but he's lacking sharpness due to fitness, he still gives away pathetic, idiotic freekicks where a more deft player like Carrick would just stand off half a yard and cut off a passing lane rather than try and go through the player to win the ball in area's that aren't immediately dangerous.
 

sullydnl

Ross Kemp's caf ID
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
34,063
Was poor but, as others have said, a lot of that was down to rustiness.

Not sure why that brief cameo would change anyone's opinions of Rafael.

Anyway, Valencia could use a break so we'd better take advantage of Rafael's return to fitness while we can.
 

SirAF

Ageist
Joined
Sep 28, 2003
Messages
37,678
Location
Obviously I'm in the minority, but I thought it was a breath of fresh air to have him on the pitch after one dimensional Valencia. Actually was trying to create things, picking early passes etc

Obviously a bit rusty, but what do people expect?

People have such high expectations for certain players that when they don't immediately match them, they can't wait to criticise. That's why Nani has no chance unless he performs like Ronaldo every week, but Young just has to avoid diving to get an 8 rating.
:lol:
 

Varun

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Mar 16, 2011
Messages
46,782
Location
Mumbai
Obviously I'm in the minority, but I thought it was a breath of fresh air to have him on the pitch after one dimensional Valencia. Actually was trying to create things, picking early passes etc

Obviously a bit rusty, but what do people expect?

People have such high expectations for certain players that when they don't immediately match them, they can't wait to criticise. That's why Nani has no chance unless he performs like Ronaldo every week, but Young just has to avoid diving to get an 8 rating.
:lol:

Or has to dive to get a pen in which case he gets a 11.
 

Eric'sCollar

Asked for his wife's permission before signing up
Joined
Mar 5, 2013
Messages
8,720
Location
Sydney
Good to see him back. Have to laugh at some of the reactions on here though.

I think in a few weeks of games, he will get that sharpness back and nail down a spot, hopefully the same with Shaw so we can revert to a back four.
 

Lawman

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Dec 21, 2006
Messages
10,639
Location
Scotland
Obviously I'm in the minority, but I thought it was a breath of fresh air to have him on the pitch after one dimensional Valencia. Actually was trying to create things, picking early passes etc

Obviously a bit rusty, but what do people expect?

People have such high expectations for certain players that when they don't immediately match them, they can't wait to criticise. That's why Nani has no chance unless he performs like Ronaldo every week, but Young just has to avoid diving to get an 8 rating.
Nani has had more chances than most! And no one expects him to play like Ronaldo every week or in fact any week.
 

Loublaze

ATLien
Joined
Aug 30, 2009
Messages
16,593
Is it? The only chance we created on the second half was from his cross. If I am not mistaken, that was also his only cross today.
No it wasn't. He had a few, and its annoying that he never looks up when he crosses. He just hits it. Even the chance he created in the second half came from a Valencia-like blind cross into the box. Also, he's a decent dribbler with decent pace but he seldom tries to take on players. He's capable of much better than today, he needs fitness.
 

Asger

Full Member
Joined
Jul 10, 2010
Messages
3,785
Hope he starts against Stoke.. Much better going forward than Valencia.
 

Nick 0208 Ldn

News 24
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Messages
23,721
Rafael's been free from injury for what, nearly a month? I don't know if he saw any action with the reserves/U-21s but given a time and a little luck he'll be back to the influential player the team had earlier on this season.


No it wasn't. He had a few, and its annoying that he never looks up when he crosses. He just hits it.
How he manages to pick out Rooney here must be down to his concealed psychic abilities then.

 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.