Just fecking give him the top job
Rangnick - "Apart from goalkeeping we need to improve all areas of our squad" | Muppets amass
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That Mourihno comparison attempt 10/10, /respect.
I’d wager he’s referring to players most of us have never heard of. Players that won’t make a dent in the budget. See my hidden gem thread and think maybe even more obscure. To make anywhere near the changes Ralf’s talking about, we’ll need lots of -20m players.
That's obviously not the reason. We don't have an unlimited amount of money for transfers or wages. Again if we are going to sign more than the usual 4 players this summer, we need to find a few Matips, Milner's & Robertson's in that group
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Stats deceive. When Maguire gets skinned and the attacking player is through on goal and De Gea concedes a goal, De Gea gets tagged with the goal but in truth it was Maguire whose poor play resulted in the conceded goal. Everyone can see with their own eyes that Maguire has been ridiculously poor this season. Everyone can see with their own two eyes that our midfielders have defended poorly and our fullbacks have defended poorly. De Gea is under far more pressure than Henderson was and it's not because De Gea doesn't come out for crosses. It's because our defending has been poor.
Case in point, our recent match against Norwich. It cannot be argued that De Gea was responsible for either goal or that Henderson would have made those saves. Our defenders simply got skinned by a side that will be relegated, resulting in two goals counted against Dave's tally.
This is not to say that Henderson is in any way woeful or even that we shouldn't even consider cashing in on Dave if an offer is presented. But it is to say that as we look to rebuild the squad, the last position that needs replacement is GK.
Yes…he’s got a brain fart and wayward pass in him but have you not watched them or something? I feel there’s a massive lack of understanding whenever I look at comments about being a sweeper keeper, you don’t have to be Pirlo and be spraying pinpoint passes around but you do have to take up positions far from your goal to create passing options in possession/sweep up attacks out of possession.
I said top sides but this season I’d say Mendy, Ramsdale have been. I actually think Ramsdale is very average but I’m giving his dues this season, he’s looked a lot better. Lloros I think has really fallen away from where he was and I don’t watch WHUM regularly enough to know on Areola but I’d suspect he’s not as good as De Gea.
Ralf would be doing better but the players are shit
I can see a lot more poor performances coming out of this squad.
Since he's come here, he's essentially outright said that the club has made the wrong signings, and needs to start making the right ones and right decisions. It could be interpreted as him saying many of them shouldn't be here and are synonomous with our failure.
True, but I imagine quite a few in our squad will pout rather than try to prove it wrong.
Since he's come here, he's essentially outright said that the club has made the wrong signings, and needs to start making the right ones and right decisions. It could be interpreted as him saying many of them shouldn't be here and are synonomous with our failure.
True, but I imagine quite a few in our squad will pout rather than try to prove it wrong.
Ralph is speaking generally about strengthening a group, which will have a lot of outgoings in the Summer, and also building a squad that will suit the new manager's style. It clearly can't take 2 or 3 players if up to 10 are leaving.
Jose was the full time manager and singled out and criticised particular players. He's a bully. There's a huge difference.
It's not just this season though, is it? Over each of the last four seasons De Gea has been conceding more goals on average than what Henderson did, including in the exact same season.
I agree De Gea is generally under more pressure than Henderson was, and that's the point. De Gea's lack of communication with his defenders, his inability to claim aerial balls, his refusal to come off the line, him not making himself an option to pass to...it all plays a part in making it more difficult for the rest of the defensive line. Henderson isn't even particularly good at those things himself (except maybe the communication), but the defence as a whole looked more comfortable. It often seemed to be the same when we play Romero as well, although he generally only played in the cup games so the level of competition was lower.
what was the comparison with what Jose said again?
Said in another thread but Ralf time here is one of the most important ever as while the results have been shit it really focused on how bad the players are and he isn’t afraid it say it.
He will be great knowledge for ETH and will speed up the process of fixing the issues here
He will be great knowledge for ETH and will speed up the process of fixing the issues here
Rangnick: “The whole team is shite bar the goalkeeper.”
Caf: “Ralf’s taken the soft option”
Caf: “Ralf’s taken the soft option”
Except being able to read the game and sweep properly along with basically being another midfielder with the ball at your feet is much more important than shot stopping in modern football. Ederson is pretty shit at purely stopping shots but he allows City to keep possession exceptionally well with how good he is with the ball as well as being quick off his line.
You don't need to stop shots like De Get if you keep the ball at the other end of the pitch the whole game.
If we are talking about players who can thrive in whatever the tactical approach is, I guess Fred, Bruno, Varane and Sancho are the only ones. + Elanga, too (don't take him as a full 1st teamer still, should get more experience and elevate his levels).
All these players are hard workers, have good mentality and drive. They seem to be adaptable as well and can be used as specialists by ETH as a game-changing player.
All these players are hard workers, have good mentality and drive. They seem to be adaptable as well and can be used as specialists by ETH as a game-changing player.
Also the difference between this and Mourinho is one is only here temporarily and main job is helping the new manager for understand what all the players are about yet the other was here full time and throwing the players he signed under the bus.
Rangnick is utterly correct in his assessment. Hopefully the board listens.
I very rarely criticize Maguire but when he's pressured on the ball absolutely anything can happen. He looks composed when he has time and space and can ping a decent pass but close him down he's an absolute disaster. All composure goes out the window. I can't see how anyone can think any differently.
I'm sure the Man United recruitment and analysis team will be thrilled to hear that they aren't smart. And they will be eager to learn that with many players leaving, many players need to be brought in. And that this is something to be looked at. If maybe they could be interested in some players from a Red Bull club? That's where it's at, after all.
Rangnick is like Captain Obvious with both feet in his mouth.
Rangnick is like Captain Obvious with both feet in his mouth.
Its wasteland because it’s always overran as the opposition normally don’t have an ill disciplined number 10.
If we had players who stopped giving the ball away either under pressure or through bad passing it might not be up near DDG so much. City and Liverpool do well because they do not give the ball away and work hard.
All evidence over the last 9 years suggests that's spot on. They are lucky to still have jobs.
Tonight's line up is all the evidence needed
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You don't think two WC midfielders weren't significantly improve our play in defence and build up?
I was talking about sorting what I see as one of the biggest issues first. Do you think Bruno falls into the bracket? We may end up needing a different type of player. I'd be interested to see how he fares under ETH.
Would also serve well as a description of you posting on the topic of Ragnick.
Whatever stick you want to beat him with, taking the perspective of considering the psychosocial work environment of the incompetents who have been responsible for recruitment in the last ten years is not one which I can personally get too worked up about.
All United fans are hoping, I think, is that what he’s saying publicly here marks genuine change in the club from what we’ve had for the last ten years.
I’m not sure you understand quite how badly we’ve been run this last decade. Rangnick could say something like “it is better to pay a smaller fee before the release clause expires than to pay a bigger fee after” and it would be a piece of advice that we could have done with.
Ho ho ho you're so smart man. Figured his whole shtick out.
This is my take. At some point down the line we can look at the goalkeeper. But the idea that we’d pay £50m to get a new goalkeeper ahead of say 2x centre midfielders, a RW, a ST is ludicrous.
I used to think the suggestion that we ditch this whole squad and start again was petulant and hysterical. After 40 minutes of this game at Anfield it seems the least that's required. Been watching United since 1977 and I've never seen a performance as bad as that tonight. I feel sorry for David De Gea but the rest of them seem to be utterly shameless. Bugger this, I'm going to watch Columbo. He only looked like a shambles.
Christ any opportunity for you to stick the boot in on him
For those confused with why fans want a sweeper keeper so bad. Just take a lot of how the high line works with Becker in goal.
Baffling thing here is that he somehow thinks the goalkeeping area is sorted.
No other top club would touch De Gea with a bargepole yet he thinks the gk position isn't an issue?
Pretty much all of them need to go. It's plain and simple.
I like ralf.
He will be fine in this job.
He will be fine in this job.
Should have included himself too in the criticism
He should seriously slag these lot off for their "performances"
Read the full quotes. He was asked specifically about De Gea and rather than single him out for criticism he instead said he's had no issue with De Gea but it's another area to look at once you know the next manager's style of play, referencing what City and Liverpool did with their goalkeepers.
Any opportunity? I'd have made a few hundred posts more on him.
I don't get it. Why are you lot lapping up this constant dribble of bland, sterile, uninspired, basic phrases as if it's some kind of cutting-edge analysis? All the guy ever says are things that are as banal as they are pedantic. And that's on top of doing an actually rather awful job as interim manager. Where does the completely overblown and unwarranted reverence of Rangnick, some random mediocre guy, come from that's so rampant on this forum?