Reports of Barca and Neymar wanting each other again. How is that even possible with their debt?
Has to cost 100m at least.
Has to cost 100m at least.
Real Madrid and Barcelona
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In a rational world, Barcelona would have to say goodbye to Messi and detach themselves in any way possible from all the obscene salaries they have on the squad, renegotiate debts and start a new project without wild populism.
The same applies to Madrid, who sell the idea that they are going to buy Haaland and Mbappe when they are not so much better and still have to carry the crosses of Bale, Hazard, and company in a squad with too many veterans.
They probably still think they are too big to fall.
The same applies to Madrid, who sell the idea that they are going to buy Haaland and Mbappe when they are not so much better and still have to carry the crosses of Bale, Hazard, and company in a squad with too many veterans.
They probably still think they are too big to fall.
Disagree completely. Madrid are in the ucl semi finals in a season where they’ve had more injuries than any other team in Europe. Add mbappe and if they get their health back they’ll be top 2-3 for ucl favorites next season.
Barca have lost just twice in all of 2021. In a rebuilding season. Messi has more goals and assists than anyone else in 2021. We need to offload some of the high wage players for sure, starting with Coutinho and Sergi Roberto, but Barca should do what they can to keep Messi, no question.
feck me, he got old.
@VP89 might want to merge threads?
Haha sure, think mods might need to merge though.
Paying Alaba a reported 400k a week. Crying about the PL finances and doing something like that. Can’t make this shit up.
This is like Deja Vu:
Post galacticos Version 1 Madrid "Madrid is full of debts and will never recover again, etc, etc".
Barça from the early 2000's "Barça can't even retain their major players, they are doomed and spent all their money on crap dutch players."
Post galacticos Version 1 Madrid "Madrid is full of debts and will never recover again, etc, etc".
Barça from the early 2000's "Barça can't even retain their major players, they are doomed and spent all their money on crap dutch players."
Where will they even play him ?
Hes a top lb
Decent dm
I wouldn't say he's a 400 k a week cb at all.
Nice fallacy of composition
Real Madrid are 67th in the world in terms of net spending in the last 5 seasons, so there you are a much better reference.
Centre back I’d imagine...
Probably balanced out by having the second highest wage bill in world football no? What is Gareth Bale on again? What is Eden Hazard on again?Nice fallacy of composition
Real Madrid are 67th in the world in terms of net spending in the last 5 seasons, so there you are a much better reference.
Can’t go around bitching and whining and trying to get sympathy and then turn around and sign players to 400k a week wages.
It's not about getting sympathy, it is about describing reality and not missing a huge part of it. Unless Pyramids FC is the benchmark for one of the most valuable clubs in the world, COVID or not.
What reality? Real keep spending insane amounts of money on wages. How can you do that on one hand and complain about being broke on the other? Real bring in huge commercial revenues anyway, is it really so hard to live within their means?
The reality that says Getafe and Pyramids FC have a bigger net spend in the last five seasons. If you analyze a club's behavior economic wise, take everything into consideration and that also includes players like Ramos or Varane, the two starting CBs possibly leaving the club this summer.
Real Madrid aren't broke. They operate 'within their means.'
Real Madrid always find money. I remember people saying in 2009, "there's no way they can afford Ronaldo after they spent 65M for Kaka", then they sign Ronaldo. "there's no way they can afford Benzema after they bough Ronaldo & Kaka", then they sign Benzema. "there's no way they can afford Xabi Alonso after they spent so much money on Ronaldo, Kaka, & Benzema". then they sign Alonso plus Alvaro Arbeloa as bonus for combined 55M.
Moral of the story? Never underestimated the importance of Real Madrid in the eyes of spanish goverment.
Moral of the story? Never underestimated the importance of Real Madrid in the eyes of spanish goverment.
Because he's after attention. Madrid know full well they can get an endless supply of dodgy loans and land deals from the council. There is literally zero chance they would ever be allowed to go under, or even fail to compete with the other city in Spain.
They've let their squad stagnate and now need a big investment. He is just bleating so La Liga don't cut their TV money and preparing the government for when they turn up cap in hand.
What on earth is this?
A person saying that football will die doesn't mean a club is broke.
May I ask, why are you asking this sort of questions and making such strange logical connections?
Nobody's living within their means right now because of the pandemic
the issues for us come from A) stadium renovations and B) too many bad big contracts
And they're issues in the sense that we need to get those contracts off the books to sign new players right now
Clearly Florentino hasn't learned a thing about bad contracts
He was talking about the losses that all football clubs had due to the pandemic.
Real Madrid are one of the few clubs that made a profit last season. They sold 100m worth of players this summer and signed nobody. They've played hardball with contract renewals.
I don't think offering Alaba this much money is necessarily wise, but it's almost certainly part of an overall plan to reduce the total wages paid, not increase them.
Grow up will you? This is ridiculous. Spain isn't some banana republic and their government has more important things to do than bail out fooball clubs, nevermind that it's absolutelly impossible under EU rules
The simple and logical explanation is that they've been at the top or nr 2 in every single list published by Forbes of the worlds richest clubs.
Because he is a bullshitter and most likely had personal fincancial interests in a Super League. Real Madrid and Barcelona generate significantly more money than any other club not named Manchester United, Barcelona are chronically mismanaged while Real Madrid has decided to recently invest in their infrastructure.
The Spanish government have no money.
Would be interesting to see how RM rebuild. They have good players that are ageing or kids that need to develop. If they don’t invest significantly in the summer, I can see them having a very ordinary season.
We'll see this summer.
So what you're implying is that if lets Real Madrid purchases a couple of players for a significant amount of money that will in your warped logic amount to evidence of the Spanish state helping them?
Because if it is, that is not how the world works, specially in Europe.
It's not a good look for the league when two biggest teams in the league have got managers who did at best a 6/10 job at Everton!
How does the world work, especially in Europe?
Wondering the same thing.
Edit: seems it's an actual footbal club bought by a sheik in 2018.
At least madrid hires proven managers who have a history of winning. Barca hires managers from midtable teams valverde to setein to koeman
How does it work then? Madrid is in great debt, they need to fund their stadium renovation and lack of star players they could sell?
Probably the cheap option for them. He likely took a paycut to join them in an attempt to revive his failing career.
Ancelotti needs to retire.
That whole 'how dare you imply Spain could be do something underhand!?' line might sound better if we didn't remember the whole incident with Madrid selling their training ground to the government for a vastly inflated price.
All clubs? Ah so, he's actually the saviour putting himself out there for everyone else, not just because he spent stupid amounts of money he can't afford? Good to know..
You do not fund loans or stadium renovations with the ponctual sale of assets. In fact you do not borrow money or invest in infrastructure based on hypothetical one-off sales, you do it based on recurring revenue and Madrid have among the highest recurring revenues in the football world.
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This is a crazy amount to pay for Alaba’s wages. What was his wages in Bayern previously? I reckon no more than 200k per week?