He's been fairly average for what you'd expect from a top tier striker. However because our attack is dross, he's been head and shoulders above everyone else so he'll get lots of praise. Not that it isn't deserved, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more.
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But who's fault is that? Because even at Everton and West Brom, he had many games where he scored more than one. He scores plenty for Belgium too. The number of clear chances that Lukaku has missed has not really been that high. I think it's a combination of him adapting to a new team and poor service that has caused this. I expect him to do way better next year.
I like Lukaku, and I liked the player I'm about to compare him to and disagreed with his sale, so I'm not sure I should post this with how it'll likely be perceived, but that mins per goal reminded me of something I noticed recently... So, here's Romelu Lukaku vs Danny Welbeck in the league for Man United (when playing as a CF):
Romelu Lukaku: 33 (1) - 16 (A goal every 179 minutes)
Danny Welbeck: 30 (14) - 16 (A goal every 173 minutes)
It'd be fair to say you expect a bit more for 75 million quid.
He's out for the final lads.
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The reason rom hasn't scored more goals is primarily because of pogba.
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Pogba spends to much time showboating,instead of playing the simple pass to keep the ball moving, alot of people say it's similar to stevie me... but the big difference is that steven gerrad, buzz came from creating assist and scoring goals
Even last night against west ham,pogba got owned by kouyate, mourinho has tried him in a two and a three and nothing has changed.
Unfornately it is effecting the team, and some big decisons have to be made in the summer, otherwise next season will be no different, because it seems mourinho doesn't really trust pogba, and probably smalling, and to cover up the teams short comings, he's restricted the full backs. unless mourinho brings in a someone like seri, and play sanchez as the middle of a 3 in a 4231, and pogba on the left and posssibly perrrira on the right, alternating with linguard
Ended as the 6th highest league scorer.
- Salah - 32 goals - 2922 minutes
- Kane - 30 goals - 3083 minutes
- Aguero - 21 goals - 1969 minutes
- Vardy - 20 goals - 3258 minutes
- Sterling - 18 goals - 2593 minutes
- Lukaku - 16 goals - 2869 minutes
- Firmino - 15 goals - 2778 minutes
- Lacazette - 14 goals - 2212 minutes
- Jesus - 13 goals - 1673 minutes
- Mahrez/Hazard/Murray/Son - 12 goals
Lukaku scored a lot of match winning goals, equalisers or basically crucial goals. Lukaku also scored goals in other cup competitors.
To be fair, Morata isn't even on the list.
To be fair, Morata isn't even on the list.
He probably isn't going to be as good as Kane or Aguero. However, still expect at least 20 goals in the league next year. With a stronger team he will get it done. He offers way more than the likes of Vardy, Lacazette and Jesus in general. Good season from Rom.
He is scoring for fun in Belgium NT with KDB and Hazard supplying him regularly, he didn't have that kind of player in our team.
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From our big signings I think he is the one who delivered what had been expected. It was clear that he is not a technically gifted striker like Aguero or Kane or a dynamic Player like Lewandowski. He always Looks a bit clumsy but we knew that.
He scored an acceptable amount of Goals and always tried to link-up when we have been in attack. With better Support he will easily score 5-10 more the coming seasons.
He scored an acceptable amount of Goals and always tried to link-up when we have been in attack. With better Support he will easily score 5-10 more the coming seasons.
You just know stats aren't all that when they're used to present an argument for Welbeck being more efficient than Lukaku.
Welbeck has never scored more than 9 league goals for united in a single season so this is probably taken from his best form of runs from 2 seasons.
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He has Pogba and Sanchez behind him, let’s not pretend Lukaku plays for bloody Swansea. He plays for a great Belgium-side that’s ironically only a great striker away from being a potential WC-winner. His goals? Well, his last 20 international goals have come against Saudi Arabia, Japan, Mexico, Cyprus, Greece, Gibraltar, Estonia, Bosnia, Ireland, Norway and Finland - you get the picture? Even I would score a hat-trick against Gibraltar.
It would be very interesting to see where you got these stats, because they don't look correct. Also comparing minutes per goal between a starter, and a player who was mostly sub is really REALLY dumb.
His run before and around the Christmas period was shocking - I was hugely critical of him at the time and genuinely thought he was gonna be a problem long term. To his credit he's knuckled down since and even though he wasn't scoring like he was in the first few weeks of the season his all round performances improved dramatically. He added some nuisance factor to his game and became a more effective outlet. On the whole he was one of the more impressive players over the season - He's also the only guy in the team who can cross a ball it would seem.
You could try clicking on the links that were in the post since I made it several days ago.
Well yeah, cause he never actually played all that much for us as a striker. But the point is, Lukaku has played a similar amount of minutes and started a similar amount of league games (at CF), and has pretty much the same record. It's not 75 million quid's worth of striker is it?
Using stats across different seasons to judge goal scoring rate?
Ask yourself why for someone who love youth, academy players like SAF & Wenger not to use Welbeck more as CF? It answer the question you posed about Lukaku time at Chelsea (hint: under 21 players and chances in first team squad). Why not compare Lukaku's West Brom & Everton loan to Welbeck's Sunderland loan. Doesn't fit narrative/ cherry picking stats?
You're right. Drogba, Costa, Mandzukic, Dzeko were all not top strikers because they have an ordinary goals to minutes ratio.
Hernandez is also one of the best strikers in the history of the game.
I don't see why comparing stats across different seasons is some kind of disqualifier? Or how I've 'cherry picked' stats in any way. Literally all I've done is pulled up two Manchester United CF's records in the PL. We can try other comparisons using the exact same parameters if you want to see what the actual point is here:
Van Persie: 76 (5) - 46 (A goal every 143 minutes)
Ibrahimovic: 28 (4) - 17 (A goal every 149 minutes)
Chicharito: 47 (35) - 27 (A goal every 156 minutes)
Lukaku: 33 (1) - 16 (A goal every 179 minutes)
It's only one season, admittedly, which is why I'm not too panicked about Lukaku, but there's no pretending 16 goals is a good return when he's started nearly every game in the league.
Van Persie: 76 (5) - 46 (A goal every 143 minutes)
Ibrahimovic: 28 (4) - 17 (A goal every 149 minutes)
Chicharito: 47 (35) - 27 (A goal every 156 minutes)
Lukaku: 33 (1) - 16 (A goal every 179 minutes)
It's only one season, admittedly, which is why I'm not too panicked about Lukaku, but there's no pretending 16 goals is a good return when he's started nearly every game in the league.
Actually most of those players have pretty damn good goals to minutes ratios, which is why they were considered top strikers. Mandzukic would be the obvious exception, but we didn't pay 75 million for a Mario Mandzukic, did we?
Why? Because you compare 1 season of Lukaku across others' many seasons. Lukaku ain't the best when it comes to one season, but not necessarily mean he wouldn't improve. Goals across different season may act as saving grace for many as they can have shite season but next season having everything rosy for them.
Goal per minutes doesn't take service quality into equation. Morata has great stats for Madrid. Even this season as his goal scoring stats looks decent. In reality he's been terrible that Girourd looks like a better forward. Football is not about pure stats.
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For comparison, the best strikers in the league.
Kane 153(12208 minutes) - 108(A goal every 113 minutes)
Aguero 206(15366 minutes) - 143(A goal every 107 minutes)
And I agree football is not purely about blind stats. Goals have a direct correlation to many things, chances created, shots on target, etc. Kane had the most shots per game in the league last season with 5, in comparison Lukaku had just 2.5 and he scored roughly half of Kane's total.
Kane 153(12208 minutes) - 108(A goal every 113 minutes)
Aguero 206(15366 minutes) - 143(A goal every 107 minutes)
And I agree football is not purely about blind stats. Goals have a direct correlation to many things, chances created, shots on target, etc. Kane had the most shots per game in the league last season with 5, in comparison Lukaku had just 2.5 and he scored roughly half of Kane's total.
Really hope he is 100% ready to go Saturday, think he’s had a solid first season.
He could have a huge World Cup and push into that elite level of striker.
He could have a huge World Cup and push into that elite level of striker.
Talk about twisting a quote to make a nasty headline.
Worrying that he practices his first touch and it's still really poor st times.
Worrying that he's trying to improve an area of weakness?
This guy will be a top top striker in a couple of seasons.
Lukaku 17/18 : 150.1 per goal
Costa 14/15 : 146.7 per goal
Costa 16/17 : 158.6 per goal
Dzeko 11/12 : 126.1 per goal
Dzeko 13/14 : 124.6 per goal
Drogba 04/05: 167.3 per goal
Drogba 05/06: 174.0 per goal
Drogba 06/07: 148.3 per goal
It's complete nonsense that Drogba and Costa were considered top strikers due to 'pretty damn good goals to minutes ratios'. It was their physical presence and link-up with other forwards that made them top strikers.
It's almost as if you decided before actually doing any research that Lukaku's goal scoring wasn't good enough, and you just dig your heels due to stubbornness. Lukaku is a goal every other game striker, which can move to a better ratio if the team is tailored towards him. That is typical of physical strikers like him.
Worrying that he's trying and it's still so poor at times.
We'll see but we certainly hope so.
Lukaku is basically a successful con artist
I agree.
And people forget that he is only 24.
For comparison, Martial at 22, is hailed as a great prospect, while Lukaku, at 24, is someone who we absolutely rely upon to be our striker.
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I'm talking exclusively about the Premier League; I'm not concerning myself with Lukaku's ability to score goals against Yeovil and Derby. A league goal every 180 minutes is indisputably mediocre for a club of our stature, especially when you're one of the most expensive players of all time, hence the original comparison to a striker who was widely considered a terrible finisher but managed a better return for the club in near enough the exact same amount of minutes on the pitch. I'm not even saying he's never going to be good enough, I'm just saying he hasn't been so far, and I'm bemused that this is a contentious opinion. And Drogba and Costa were obviously considered top strikers because they were good-to-great goalscorers in addition to their other qualities. But hey, this is just arguing in circles, if you think Lukaku has so far been a sufficiently good goalscorer then that's your right.
With the variances in his performances this season... him being half fit for the final is not ideal. Here's hoping if he does play it's only because hes fully fit. Lukaku is definitely not one of those who can put in a good performance when he isnt ready to play imo.
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Hope he's fit for tomorrow. Honestly believe he could be the difference between us winning or not. Not because I think no one else is capable of scoring, but I think our team is built around a player like him up front so we're less effective without.
I hope he plays tomorrow too, and you know I’m not his biggest fan. However, against Chelsea we will get in a few crosses and lots of challenges in the box... perfect for Lukaku. It will be like a battle between two relegation teams, only with high quality. Crosses and lots shots from outside the box. And who knows, it’s against the «worst» top team in the league, he might actually score!
He's playing.
On the bench.
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