JB08
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Do we think he'll play/start against Stoke?
The amount of mates Rooney has in the English media is exactly why Jose should have carried out exactly what Pep done with Hart and stamp out the spider before it gets the chance to lay more eggs. Instead he's given Rooney the impression he can do more damage to the club for another three seasons.I sincerely believe Savage is on the Rooney payrole, the Rooney camp are probably hoping for one last mega contract from China and for that he is needed to be thought of as better than he is.
The amount of mates Rooney has in the English media is exactly why Jose should have carried out exactly what Pep done with Hart and stamp out the spider brfore it lays more eggs. Instead he's given Rooney the impression he can do more damage to the club for another three seasons.
Nice to see United supporters supporting Rooney as thats whats supporters should do .... support....
Is that you, Wayne?
I think we have just convinced ourselves that Rooney is unstoppable.I stand by this - think he'll start.
I'm not sure who he'll start in place of (Rashford, Mata, Martial), but Mourinho's weird answers on Rooney (protecting him etc) and the fecking relentless Rooney press machine make me even more confident he'll start at the weekend.
Hope I'm wrong, but after watching this play out for the last 3 years, you almost start to build up a kind of instinctive reading of the situation when it comes to Rooney's treatment.
Maybe because we're constantly reading between the lines and so much of what everyone says about him - journos, managers, pundits etc - is just complete and utter nonsense.
But yeah, he'll start on Sunday.
Not this crap again.Nice to see United supporters supporting Rooney as thats whats supporters should do .... support....
Not this crap again.
I think Rooney not being in the team is best for the club I love.Evidence over 3 years has me convinced.Why should I support Rooney starting and not Mata for example?
I think its poor support personallyPeople get past the point of being angry and eventually it leads to acceptance, and they'll laugh about it instead. That's where we are with Rooney. He's been shit for so long that we expect him to muck everything up. It's best to laugh about it.
Expecting him to perform well when the evidence to the contrary is so overwhelming is bordering on insanity, as per Einstein's definition.I think its poor support personally
Sorry samwise, we only support players that gives their all in the pitchNice to see United supporters supporting Rooney as thats whats supporters should do .... support....
I've just seen Zlatan's goal. Do people really call that Rooney's scuffed shot an assist pass and give him credit for it?
Sorry samwise, we only support players that gives their all in the pitch
Show me 3 years of Zlatan doing that.So then you support Zlatan about 75% of the time? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan, but I've seen his share of slouched shoulder sulking so far also.
Show me 3 years of Zlatan doing that.
Infact show me 3 games of zlatan being shit useless.
From the evidence I just think depending on Rooney is a waste of time.You shouldn't if that's what you believe. I just want wins and good play, regardless of who is on the pitch. If it's Wayne I want him to do good, if it's Juan, Zlatan, Rash...hell even Rojo. But some have made it personal, where they actually want him to fail at the clubs peril, because they think it's best long term. That mind set is what I have a hard time understanding. I have my preferences, but no matter the starting XI I root for every one of them.
I obviously get different audio feeds/commentators than you guys do, because here that really wasn't the case. They called it a scruffed shot an unintentional assist, gave Zlatan the credit for being in the right place/right time and scoring the header. They did give Rooney credit for his positioning, which I think is fair, but not a whole lot more than that.When he got on I decided I wasn't gonna be annoyed by his performance. But the commentators make it so hard. Blowing smoke up his arse for no apparent reason. The goal was very well worked, the majority of good play came from Fosu-Mensah, and it was a very good header from Zlatan. The two of them barely got a mention after the goal. All about Rooney.
Mata's performance against Leicester is also brushed off.
The team as a whole will never get a fair coverage in the media until Rooney is gone. Other players will constantly get downplayed and scrutinized in benefit of Rooney.
I dont think Rooney is choosing to not give his all.I just think he cant do it anymore.Sorry samwise, we only support players that gives their all in the pitch
From the evidence I just think depending on Rooney is a waste of time.
He's not very good anymore.The difference between this side and our great sides of the past is knowing when to move on players.Rooney's time is now.
I believe we should be trying to play our best teams all the time.Rooney at isnt part of that.
Sadly, you're most probably correct. It's like the shit articles posted, with zero links or inside sources. Made up and plucked from thin air. Nice jobs they have.Credibility is not the yardstick in punditry. Why would they give a crap? They want people to talk about them.
ThisAt this point all he is, is a huge distraction from what we need to be focused on, the commentators spent more time last night talking about whether he's going to come on than who was actually on and the media are on his jock every day, all he offers as a squad player is taking up a bench spot where we could have a good player.
The amount of mates Rooney has in the English media is exactly why Jose should have carried out exactly what Pep done with Hart and stamp out the spider before it gets the chance to lay more eggs. Instead he's given Rooney the impression he can do more damage to the club for another three seasons.
When he got on I decided I wasn't gonna be annoyed by his performance. But the commentators make it so hard. Blowing smoke up his arse for no apparent reason. The goal was very well worked, the majority of good play came from Fosu-Mensah, and it was a very good header from Zlatan. The two of them barely got a mention after the goal. All about Rooney.
Mata's performance against Leicester is also brushed off.
The team as a whole will never get a fair coverage in the media until Rooney is gone. Other players will constantly get downplayed and scrutinized in benefit of Rooney.
Totally agree with these posts, and last night the punditry was so biased towards Rooney, and so downright disrespectful to Mata it really bothered me.At this point all he is, is a huge distraction from what we need to be focused on, the commentators spent more time last night talking about whether he's going to come on than who was actually on and the media are on his jock every day, all he offers as a squad player is taking up a bench spot where we could have a good player.
Very true. And the thing that pisses me off is that Ferguson, albeit in a "read between the lines" type way, had essentially set it up/put it on a plate for him to be sold.The amount of mates Rooney has in the English media is exactly why Jose should have carried out exactly what Pep done with Hart and stamp out the spider before it gets the chance to lay more eggs. Instead he's given Rooney the impression he can do more damage to the club for another three seasons.
I interned at the sport's section of a big german yellow press paper, and while they do milk every quote or piece of info they get for maximum emotional impact and sensationalism, they never actually lied or made things up as far as I could tell. It's just the way this branch of the press works.Sadly, you're most probably correct. It's like the shit articles posted, with zero links or inside sources. Made up and plucked from thin air. Nice jobs they have.
That's disingenuous, because you know there is a lot more behind the current predicament. Everyone here wants what is best for the club, which means we can't afford passengers. Also, consider the following:You shouldn't if that's what you believe. I just want wins and good play, regardless of who is on the pitch. If it's Wayne I want him to do good, if it's Juan, Zlatan, Rash...hell even Rojo. But some have made it personal, where they actually want him to fail at the clubs peril, because they think it's best long term. That mind set is what I have a hard time understanding. I have my preferences, but no matter the starting XI I root for every one of them.
That's disingenuous, because you know there is a lot more behind the current predicament. Everyone here wants what is best for the club, which means we can't afford passengers. Also, consider the following:
1) His contract shenanigans
2) Hes been poor for a long time now, so it's not form, it's his current level, and it's simply not good enough
3) Not really his fault, but under Van Gaal he was undroppable, which was just infuriating
4) All the arse licking and pampering from pundits and media has causes a reaction in the fans. It's just ridiculous
5) Everyone reaches the end of their career at some point. Giggs and Scholes are also United legends, and they accepted a diminished role when they got older. Why should not the same apply for Rooney? Also, the two former never performed as badly as Rooney has done lately
I don't hate him, hes been a magnificent player for us, but we need to be realistic here. Hes done as a top player and both for the clubs sake and his own, he should not be a regular starter anymore
Yeah. Everyone wanted Rooney out (including me). He didn't play yday and yet we were dire. I'm not saying we would have been better with him in the team, we would have been just as bad if not worse. But I've a horrible feeling that the Leicester game was a flash in the pan.Gary Neville:
"Everyone wanted to blame Rooney. Let’s look at the rest [of the team] and see if they’re good enough to win the league. That is the big issue here"
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2...-jose-mourinhos-big-issue-as-man-utd-manager/
Neville raises some interesting questions here, about what is the best team when Rooney is not playing. So there are other problems in MUFC besides Rooney, as was to be expected.
But when Rooney plays he distorts our team and tactics so much that it becomes difficult to see why Pogba, Martial, Zlatan, Mata, or Rashford are not performing well. I just hope Jose has seen enough of Rooney to understand that even though there are other problems in the team, Rooney starting is a backwards step.
Don't read idiots on Twitter then, I mean this is basic human law - Twitter is full of all types of people and if you're precious about Wayne Rooney, it's probably a mistake to go searching his name on Twitter looking for positive comments right nowThat is fine, and you are bringing common sense to the table. I can see all the arguments you list as valid. But I said 'some'. And if you haven't seen anything as I describe then you aren't paying close attention, or never go on Twitter. Some of what I see, is borderline 'hate'. I'm not speaking of you or in particular anyone else, but it's out there by supposed fans of the Club.
I mean, isn't that the whole point? Again, very few people are saying that Rooney is the sole problem, but the highlighted bit of your post is pretty much all that needs saying.Yeah. Everyone wanted Rooney out (including me). He didn't play yday and yet we were dire. I'm not saying we would have been better with him in the team, we would have been just as bad if not worse. But I've a horrible feeling that the Leicester game was a flash in the pan.
The problem you have with other's 'hate' or 'not supporting regardless' is context.I have no problem with that. Passion in the heat of the moment. Is he supposed to be happy? He didn't make obscene gestures or anything, or even engage them. Big whoop.
It's a completely retarded article.Gary Neville:
"Everyone wanted to blame Rooney. Let’s look at the rest [of the team] and see if they’re good enough to win the league. That is the big issue here"
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2...-jose-mourinhos-big-issue-as-man-utd-manager/
Neville raises some interesting questions here, about what is the best team when Rooney is not playing. So there are other problems in MUFC besides Rooney, as was to be expected.
But when Rooney plays he distorts our team and tactics so much that it becomes difficult to see why Pogba, Martial, Zlatan, Mata, or Rashford are not performing well. I just hope Jose has seen enough of Rooney to understand that even though there are other problems in the team, Rooney starting is a backwards step.