Yeah maybe Adidas in Germany care ...
Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.
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Christ, you'd think that Mou had bunged Basti down a wishing well, like that girl in The Ring.
Christ, footballers are getting softer by the dayNot sure what its got to do with Stefanovic but Mourinho should be jailed over this apprently
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36975545
You do know that Bayern essentially threw Bastian on the scrap heap because they no longer thought he could perform right? That is the only reason he ended up at United. They made no bones about why they no longer wanted him, including his being injured quite often as of late.
Bastian can move on, all he has to do is find a club who want him.
Why the hell should we spend precious first team training time on a player we do not even want anymore? he is not in game shape, is not going to help us at the start of the season, and will most likely not be around when the window closes. There is no valid reason for him to be training with the first team, it will be of no benefit to the team at all.
the needs of Manchester United > the feelings or needs of Bastian
Since yesterday I have a question. Was Schweinsteiger supposed to comeback that late? He barely played last year and barely played at the Euro, it's perfectly possible that Mourinho asked him to comeback at the same time than Valencia but Basti didn't because of his scheduled Honeymoon.
Rummenigge should mind his own business and do one. It's not like they tried desperately hard to keep Bastian, they were only too willing to sell.
Is it impossible to sell Bastian without humiliating him?
Had to revisit the Pogba thread to understand this. That place is getting dark and ugly. Thanks a lot...
If he's happy to just collect his wages and hang around for a couple of years then no
He is not a hypocrite at all and comments like these completely missing the point.
There are some fundamental principles at Bayern e.g. finishing every season with a profit (black zero) and another one is, that a contract is HOLY. They demand players to stay, if they dont wanna sell and the player have a contract, but this goes both ways of course. If the player wants to stay, then Bayern will also respect that decision.
That doesnt mean, that a club doesnt have the right to get rid of players. Absolutely nothing wrong with telling a player, that he doesnt have a future at a club or that his playing time is for example going to be zero. Its about how you handle such situations and Bayern have never treated any of their unwanted players the way United doing it. Sending a player to the reserves permanently and force him to leave his locker is crossong the boundries. I m not an expert in law, but I think the player has some rights and the club cannot do what they want and to prevent a pro footballer from training without cause is illegal.
United were known to be a family club having some principles too, but this treatment is just classless and Real Madrid level. Get rid of unwanted Players at all costs to get new toys every season.
Rummenigge taking pot shots at us to appease the bayern fanbase who were deeply upset that he was sold.
Going out on a limb here but I suspect that would be everyone's preferred option.
It is tiresome to repeat the same thing again and again but here goes.....
Whatever achievements or accolades Schweinsteiger has won for Bayern or Germany or however much he is respected in the footballing community is completely irrelevant to Manchester United. United don't owe him anything. He is the one who should be earning the respect.
Come on, people. It is not that difficult to grasp.
Whatever achievements or accolades Schweinsteiger has won for Bayern or Germany or however much he is respected in the footballing community is completely irrelevant to Manchester United. United don't owe him anything. He is the one who should be earning the respect.
Come on, people. It is not that difficult to grasp.
I don't see what the problem is, it's not like he's potless and homeless. He's a rich man who lives a life some of us can only dream of. If he stays or leaves he'll still be well rewarded.
And how has he failed to earn respect from the club?
Or conversely, how has he earned respect from United? Running off to Germany mid-season, when he can stay and be a leader in the dressing room, doesn't help.
He may not play as well as he once did but can you accuse him of lacking commitment in the pitch? Besides, he always seems to be very happy at United in his social media appearances. Seems to like the club and the fans and contributes positively to the club's image.
Wasn't there a Chelsea player made to play for reserve for years, but he wouldn't move just because of his massive contract? He's a fullback.
He demonstrated a lack of commitment outside of the field when he spent half of his time in Germany.
Winston Bogarde.
Malouda and he is still crying about it. In France we call that the loft, when players aren't wanted we send them to the loft and they train separately.
Winston Bogarde wasn't it ? Sat in the reserves on 60k a week or thereabouts I think till his contract ran out ?
Yes. Bogarde. There barely any outrage for that, and people saw that as something ok-ish for Chelsea to treat him like that.
I actually sympathized with Chelsea, seeing a player leeching a club for years.
Possibly. It's silly to speculate but i'm bored so I will anyway; maybe when Jose contacted the players during the summer he got a negative vibe from BS. Maybe BS didnt text back with enough smiley faces or a thumbs up emoji....who knows...
Yes, that is the superficial situation of this whole thing. He looks happy, supports the team-mates, thanks fans etc. But, can you really trust social media updates of footballers?
Tobias Schweinsteiger, Rummenigge & Badstuber(subtly) have already let out their views on this subject. Bastian is only delaying the situation. Sooner or later, he and Mourinho will have to open their mouths as this involves him. I hope at the end of all this the club won't be painted in a wrong hue
Bayern sent Schweinsteiger to the reserves about a decade ago. He forced his way back into the team.
Stam, RvN, and Keane were kicked out by Fergie against their 'will'. This things happened regularly. This outrage of few United fans on Mou is unfounded.
Yep. Not to mention longtime club servant and serial winner Rio being told in a changing-room he was finished at United.
creepy film that.
sure Mourinho would not mind playing Bastian now and then , if United did not have to pay his wages.
So all l'm seeing is reports emerging that he is training with the reserves. Bayern president and some slovenian bloke comment on it. Caf goes into meltdown. Nobody actually knows anything.
Bastian himself tweeted a picture of him at old trafford yesterday.
Joses a cnut apparently.
Bastian himself tweeted a picture of him at old trafford yesterday.
Joses a cnut apparently.
Exactly. Rodger had envelopes with names in them; that's even more insulting. You see that insulting unwanted players is a common treat for famous managers.
I think it's way it's apparently handled, having him training with the reserves without one session with the first team.
Saw a tweet last night quoting bastian s agent dismissing claims he is asked to leave or so. Was that a fake then?
Keane, by his own admission, even cried after the fateful meeting. At least he had the dignity to tear up his contract.
No - it is exactly not that what they have made.
The problem that you have a player in the squad who you do not need anymore out of various reasons (new coach, new tactics, better performance) or that you have bought a better player is one that every club has every year. For some that came to a club it just does not work out the way they wanted it. That you want the player of the books - understandable - but, there is a valid contract, too.
But usually you inform the player and you let him time to find a new club - and if he cannot find one in time you respect the contract and he gets new chances in the team.
Bayern had various players in situations like this the recent seasons - van Bommel, Demichelis, Lucio, Gomez, Gustavo - only to name some.
Schweinsteiger is not the guy who would sit out a contract without playing.
None of Rummenigge, Badstuber or Tobi Schweinsteiger was critizising that Manchester United wants to get rid of Bastian - all of them are way better informed than we are. It is the kind of treatment that is critisized...
And again, why would you want to waste any first team training time, this close to the start of the season on a player you have no plans for?
And asking to train with the reserves is the best way? There are more mature ways of doing things. It's not like Bastian is a teenager or something. Him training with the first team would not destroy the whole season while he is still under contract. If José didn't want Rooney and sent him to the reserves, I doubt many will be saying the same thing.