Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

[owlo]

He seems to be predicating this on Kyiv falling and being able to dictate 'peace' terms from there.

If it turns into a large scale insurgency then Russia are toast. Ukrainian platoons for the most part seem to be in retreat [wisely], just need to keep some form of command and control.

Interesting that he IS being risk averse and staying out of the cities [other than Kyiv]

@VorZakone Hard to get anything reliable currently. If Mariupol and Odessa are holding out, it'd probably signal the above (that he intends to dictate 'peace' terms from Kyiv.) He needs this to end fast; I still maintain he doesn't have the military capacity for drawn out war.

 

[The Firestarter]

Wonder how UAF would have done with a hundred A-10 for example. I know, without air superiority would be useless, but still this was the terrain / situation it was built for.

 

[Carolina Red]

the Siege of Leningrad was not particularly different from Stalingrad in terms of violence.

It was the largest loss of life in a single city ever. 872 days of siege warfare.

 

[The Firestarter]

I know how macabre this is, but it's morbidly fascinating watching something like this through the lens of social media in real time

As a kid I was fascinated too by videos from Iraq etc, but now I am fully terrified.

 

[Sarni]

Yeah, it's just some people saying it as a "where will he stop?" He won't go any further than Ukraine I think as too much damage will have been done

There is no benefit to even fighting with them, unless he uses the logic of "well NATO forces are on the border again"

But it's a weird one. If you give him nothing left to lose then he may we'll go all out for whatever he can do which is then 100% leading to a 'physical' (can't think of another word) war between them and the West

I don’t even see what the point of invading Poland would be in 2022. It’s not like he could claim this as Russia territory, or would have anything to gain. It would be purely to destroy the country. He may as well go for Germany and France in that case who at least have strong economy to target.

 

[VorZakone]

Russian military forces are moving to decapitate the Ukrainian government in Kyiv, the Pentagon said on Thursday in a grim assessment of the first stages of President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine

 

[Van Piorsing]

In case of further casualties Zelensky should simply consider surrendering and talking Putin into sparing life of his countrymen.

This is not about pride, it's about preventing another holocaust. Ukraine was never ready for this war to begin and their people shouldn't die in the name of Banderism.

There's still time for countless lifes to be spared... or let the vicious cycle of history repeat.

Other than that - F*ck. This. Shit.

 

[Solius]

This is absolutely insane. Cannot believe what I’m seeing and reading.

 

[RedTiger]

Oh boy, I fear for Kyiv. Might turn into a Grozny.

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Question: if these civilians are turned into non-uniformed irregular militas, wouldn't Russia then say that the Geneva conventions doesn't apply to them as they are "illegal combatants"?

 

[GDaly95]

In case of further casualties Zelensky should simply consider surrendering and talking Putin into sparing life of his countrymen.

This is not about pride, it's about preventing another holocaust. Ukraine was never ready for this war to begin and their people shouldn't die in the name of Banderism.

There's still time for countless lifes to be spared... or let the vicious cycle of history repeat.

Other than that - F*ck. This. Shit.

He said he tried to call and didn't get an answer. I don't think Putin wants to talk anymore.

 

[VorZakone]

This is absolutely insane. Cannot believe what I’m seeing and reading.

I can't describe the feeling when I woke up and opened the news app on my phone. Immense headline saying Russia invaded Ukraine.

It's quite surreal.

 

[VorZakone]

Question: if these civilians are turned into non-uniformed irregular militas, wouldn't Russia then say that the Geneva conventions doesn't apply to them as they are "illegal combatants"?

I'm not well versed in the Geneva conventions but I'm 100% sure Russian forces won't hold back.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

In case of further casualties Zelensky should simply consider surrendering and talking Putin into sparing life of his countrymen.

This is not about pride, it's about preventing another holocaust. Ukraine was never ready for this war to begin and their people shouldn't die in the name of Banderism.

There's still time for countless lifes to be spared... or let the vicious cycle of history repeat.

Other than that - F*ck. This. Shit.

So you think Zelensky can afford to be another Philippe Pétain instead of being Charles de Gaulle (by necessity)? If you read on where Pétain stands in the French psyche, you will see that his name doesn't fly high at all.

Apparently, a Turkish civilian ship has been hit by Russian ammunition. This is fecked up.

 

[pocco]

Why would he think nato won't stand up to him if he invaded an actual nato country?

Because he'll threaten the use of nuclear war. And who is more likely to blink first in that scenario? The crazy dictator that gives zero fecks about the death of his own people, or the softly, softly members of members of NATO, who will potentially be signing the death of their people?

 

[VorZakone]

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[RedDevilQuebecois]

OK, M. Bald Kremlin Cnut just threatened the entire world in his live speech.

 

[Van Piorsing]

He said he tried to call and didn't get an answer. I don't think Putin wants to talk anymore.

In that case he didn't tried enough. Won't be surprised if he's evacuating his country now.

Ukraine is unlucky to have him at charge now.

 

[Precaution]

If anybody held any nostalgia of the past i.e what life was like in WW2 then here's the answer coming to you live via Twitter.

WW3 in our lifetime :/

 

[hellhunter]

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What's a POW?

Prisoner of war?

 

[FootyGirl88]

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[Solius]

What's a POW?

Prisoner of War.

 

[VorZakone]

US officials suggesting the Ukrainian government might need to go into exile.

 

[nimic]

What's a POW?

Prisoner Of War.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

What's a POW?

Prisoner of war?

P(risoner) o(f) w(ar).

In other words, they say over 80 Russian soldiers have been captured in combat.

 

[spiriticon]

I was sure i read some bombastic post about Russian children from you. Or was it someone else.

Ehhhh definitely not me pal. I'm up for swiping oligarchs assets but I want nothing to do with harming kids.

 

[golden_blunder]

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Typical United. Hang on to the money as long as they can until PR turns on them

 

[led_scholes]

Russians protesting in Russia against the war are truly heroes. Only Russians can stop the madman.

 

[owlo]

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You have to wonder at what point Xi will pick up the phone to him.

 

[The Firestarter]

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I am close to being done with our lot.

 

[Redlambs]

What I don't get is the amount of "experts" and politicians beforehand claiming Russia wouldn't invade. Wasn't this clearly inevitable?

 

[VorZakone]

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[Abizzz]

The longer the day goes on the more I'm starting to think this might be a case of a superior power with unmotivated soldiers against a weaker opponent with highly motivated people fighting for them.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Question: if these civilians are turned into non-uniformed irregular militas, wouldn't Russia then say that the Geneva conventions doesn't apply to them as they are "illegal combatants"?

If they form individual combat groups, then they are not covered by Geneva convention. But if they are employed by Ukranian military (temporarily), then it applies.

Anyways, I think the rules are for any combatants whose status is disputed, they have to be treated humanely as POW, till a tribunal decides whether they are lawful or unlawful

 

[The Firestarter]

The longer the day goes on the more I'm starting to think this might be a case of a superior power with unmotivated soldiers against weaker power with highly motivated people fighting for them.

Like inversed ww2

 

[Carolina Red]

Because he'll threaten the use of nuclear war. And who is more likely to blink first in that scenario? The crazy dictator that gives zero fecks about the death of his own people, or the softly, softly members of members of NATO, who will potentially be signing the death of their people?

How many NATO countries were invaded by the Soviet Union?

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

Typical United. Hang on to the money as long as they can until PR turns on them

Shalke remove gazprom as their sponsors, while we keep schtum and hope no one notices, sometimes I really struggle with our stance on things.

 

[VorZakone]

Russians protesting in Russia against the war are truly heroes. Only Russians can stop the madman.

This is what I'm hoping for: an absolutely massive "enough is enough" organic protest in Russia.

 

[WR]

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If USA could be summed up in one video

 

[hellhunter]

Shalke remove gazprom as their sponsors, while we keep schtum and hope no one notices, sometimes I really struggle with our stance on things.

They removed them from their shirts, are you sure about removal as a sponsor?

 

[JPRouve]

The longer the day goes on the more I'm starting to think this might be a case of a superior power with unmotivated soldiers against a weaker opponent with highly motivated people fighting for them.

Why? I'm definitely missing something because I don't understand why anyone would think that it would be done in less than 24 hours.