Sadio Mane | Bayern player
- Thread starter roonster09
- Start date
It's almost as though no one could possibly see that coming in an ageing player. Despite his great end of last season run (final hurrah).
Im always skeptical of players moving at the age of 29/30. Mane may take some time to get used to a new league / team mates. For his and Bayerns sake he shouldn't start losing his best qualities by such time.
Good thing you've still got Salah whose also had his last hurrah and paid even more.It's almost as though no one could possibly see that coming in an ageing player. Despite his great end of last season run (final hurrah).
Yet again another player that Liverpool maximised to the absolute fullest and made him into a monster in the system they played - and now looks half the player out of it.
It never bodes well once they leave Liverpool at their peak. It happened to the best of them: Torres, Suarez, Coutinho. Liverpool have this habit of milking players for all their worth, and then selling at just the right time to maximise the price they get. No other club seems to do it better.
It never bodes well once they leave Liverpool at their peak. It happened to the best of them: Torres, Suarez, Coutinho. Liverpool have this habit of milking players for all their worth, and then selling at just the right time to maximise the price they get. No other club seems to do it better.
I agree with Torres and Coutinho, but Suarez was fantastic for Barca. If anything, they got him on the cheap.
Real, Bayern ring a bell?
Bayern just sold Lewandowski at 34 and it seems like he's still dominating leagues.Real, Bayern ring a bell?
Also sold Alaba who has been great for Real.
Suarez was ridiculous at Barca, arguably better than he was at Liverpool where he was phenomenal.
Torres suffered from injuries and just went downhill from there, that wasn’t a system issue.
Suarez?
Torres was in poor form when he was sold, he barely scored that season before the move. He scored twice against Chelsea and people thought he was back. Truth was, his injuries had diminished his pace.
Coutinho is a difficult one. His role isn’t widely used as much and his consistency was never great. I always thought he was hugely overrated. Constantly looking for the Hollywood pass when a simple one would be better.
We can even perhaps add BvB to the list! Haaland and Lewandowski aside, most of their big money departures end up flopping.Real, Bayern ring a bell?
It's like Hazard, once these highly praised PL players move to leagues with defenders their time is up.
Mane can't deal with the pace and power of Bundesliga. He needed to make the move sooner, now it's too late to adapt to offside traps.
Mane can't deal with the pace and power of Bundesliga. He needed to make the move sooner, now it's too late to adapt to offside traps.
3 goals in 7 games and people acting like he's become Werner
He's doing fine in a Bayern side thats far from its prime.
He's doing fine in a Bayern side thats far from its prime.
Good oneYou can’t just put up stats with no context. You can play horrendously and still score a goal. You could score a goal but be the reason the team failed to score 2 more.3 goals in 7 games and people acting like he's become Werner
He's doing fine in a Bayern side thats far from its prime.
Bruno has mastered that artform.
Hey we can come to the fight armed with Werner and Kagawa. I’m not sure you want to involve us in this battle of farmers league supremacy.Can we just agree both leagues are better than the PL and be done with it? Let's troll our English friends together
Surely it’s not a decline if it happened before he rediscovered his form again? So now he’s just being utilised incorrectly?
Is Salah / Trent on a downward trajectory? VVD? This reads as a player left Liverpool so I’m trying to justify why we’re better off type of post imo
I did check to make sure he didnt score all 3 goals in a single game. All things considered, he's doing okay, certainly not 'done' as some seem to be suggesting. He's not really a CF, or a lewa replacement, and Nagelsmann is no Klopp. I'd say the jury is still out on that guy, and so far his fashion sense has been more impressive than his tactics.
Still little context, Bayern fans have said he’s been terrible recently. They also posted in what games he’s scored in, terrible sides or lower league opposition. You can’t just wave stats around without seeing how the guy is playing and determine just because he’s scored 3 in 7 it must mean he’s doing fine.
Football doesn’t work like that. It isn’t as simple as, oh he scored, he must’ve been good. Lukaku had a 1 in 2 record at United in his first season, but it was clear as day he didn’t improve the team or play that well (not terrible either).
But if you’re consistently scoring it doesn’t matter. The entire game is about scoring goals.
I’d understand this if playing well meant you could score more goals but Haaland and Lewa shows us that’s not necessarily the case.
If Mane walks away with 18 odd goals but doesn’t play that well then that’s down to the manager imo. Mane is still doing his job
Youve the player we had for 12 of the last 18 months.
He's not a winger anymore and absolutely prone to losing confidence in his touch and finishing.
There is a reason why we played him centrally and had given him the go ahead to find a new club in the summer. It's because we signed Diaz who immediately took his place on the left wing and did much better.
OK, so he turned out to be unexpectedly world class again after moving to the centre. That was nice.
But people acting as if all the this is out of the blue, that there were no good reason whatsoever for us to sell him, haven't seen him play much in the past two seasons.
Marcus Thuram had 12 goals in his two seasons in Ligue 1 and 18 in his first two seasons in Bundesliga. And Volland best season is still in Bundesliga with 14 goals and 12 assists, that's better than 16 goals and 8 assists.
Alright, we call it a draw!Check out Antony Modeste stats in Ligue 1 and BL, the gap is bigger
I think that's fair.
All the Liverpool players have started slowly this season. That’s including Mane. Maybe last season took a huge toll on them all. If you keep digging, you will eventually find something to argue about!
What’s Salah’s excuse ?
It was clear Mane was on his last legs at Liverpool after playing in a system that suited him, in an environment that was incredibly motivating, at an intensity that is bound to wear you down after a few years. He might still have an Indian summer in him, or those last few months at Liverpool might have been it. Moving to a new league nearing 30 after succeeding in a system like that is always a risk, it ends badly frequently.
I love it whenever an ex Ligue 1 player explodes his usual stats in other top leaguesI was trying to remember the name of Modeste. His Bundesliga career is freaky.
I still remember this legendary goalI totally missed Grafite played in France
That's fair too
Wer trinkt gern Kölsch vorm Dopingtest?I was trying to remember the name of Modeste. His Bundesliga career is freaky.
He has the least self-awareness on this entire forum, I swearI don't know. post AFCON fatigue. He's performed a whole lot more than Mane over the past 18 months though.
And VVD?
It's not fatigue anymore, he's suffering from same wear and tear as Mane and rest of Liverpool squad is. 5 years of intense football whereby he has played 90% of mins has taken a toll on his body. You're huffing copium if you think it's "AFCON fatigue" which is lasting over 9 months now
Handing him a new £400k a week contract for next 4 years is just cherry on top
Mane hasn´t quite adapted to the physicality of the Bundesliga yet, might still take some time. It´s a huge step up from the Premier League, so that was to be expected to be honest.
Unless he actually says this out loud you're just guessing.
It's not fatigue anymore, he's suffering from same wear and tear as Mane and rest of Liverpool squad is. 5 years of intense football whereby he has played 90% of mins has taken a toll on his body. You're huffing copium if you think it's "AFCON fatigue" which is lasting over 9 months now
Handing him a new £400k a week contract for next 4 years is just cherry on top
Us Bundesliga fans are really milking this whole EPL star can't make it in the BL line
Years of having to hear when a Dortmund player does crap at United and they can finally give some back.
Years of having to hear when a Dortmund player does crap at United and they can finally give some back.
What do you expect when the third best striker of the last two BL seasons moved to the PL and is treated like the second coming?Us Bundesliga fans are really milking this whole EPL star can't make it in the BL line
Years of having to hear when a Dortmund player does crap at United and they can finally give some back.
Wait who was the second best striker? Modeste?
Last season Patrik Schick, the season before that Andre Silva.Wait who was the second best striker? Modeste?
Completely agree with this. He might be ageing but I'm sure Mane's got something still left to give, at least this season. Maybe in the world cup for Senegal.
My last hurrah comment earlier was a bit tongue in cheek. However not extending the contract of an ageing player is spot on. I wish we would get rid of our injury prone players early too (Keita, Ox, even Gomez while he's not injured).