Ffs that's gas.
I'm wondering if we should have a corona virus sub-forum
I saw some of his budget delivery in parliament and he was very impressive. People were calling him the next PM after that too.
The experts in this country, as well as the vast majority of other countries facing this in a serious way, have said not to go to the gyms, not to hang out out on the streets, not to go out for non-essential shopping etc. They're not saying there's no right or wrong answers, they've said conclusively that this is the wrong thing to do and they've taken increasingly drastic measures to impose that. They've done this after extensive analysis of the economic, social and medical effects of various strategies. Do you think it is wrong to disregard this?
Good, that's some better news for you.
Toryism with a human face?
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The other 2 they had on were even worse
Sorry @mehdimike there is also this study that attempts to derive the general mortality rate by age. I posted it earlier: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0822-7.I've been looking into this a bit due to my brother being asthmatic (and a carefree asshat). There isn't anything definitive, but it seems to very much depend on how serious your asthma is along with how old you are. If you have poorly controlled asthma or have to take steroid pills then the NHS defines you along with COPD sufferers as being in a high risk group. Those that are inhaler only are not given any specific guidance other than to be wary.
Actual research is thin on the ground and I haven't managed to come across a study that specifically isolates asthmatics as a group, let alone stratifies them by severity. The nearest I've got is this study that I posted on March 11th: Comorbidity and its impact on 1,590 patients with COVID-19 in China: A Nationwide Analysis
Here's the relevant table from that study (need to remember that it is a very rough guide):
As you can see Asthma isn't covered, only people with COPD. What this basically says is that people with COPD are roughly 2.681 times more likely to die than a healthy person in the same age group. Note the confidence interval is very wide indeed here, and the study can only say with 95% certainty that the true hazard ratio lies somewhere between 1.424 and 5.048.
This doesn't correspond 1:1 to the hazard ratio associated with severe asthma and represents the very worst estimate an asthma sufferer would have. It will vastly overstate the risk associated with milder asthma. In terms of studies around this area though it's the best I've got as of now.
It's also important to note that there is no evidence of people with asthma being more prone to contracting the disease, and that Asthma UK and ACAII (the Yank one) both say that there is no elevated risk from continuing to take your medication.
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Please don’t fight.
Thanks Penna. It's a nice reprieve!Good, that's some better news for you.
I don't think there's ever been a more stupidly, self-defeatingly deferential people with such a passion for feigned defiance to authority than the British.
Cannot speak for other faiths/denominations but C of E has cancelled all services. Weddings and Funerals now limited to immediate family only and then maintaining social distancing. Church in our town today conducted its last funeral service today. Only conducting them at the graveside from now on. Not sure whether this latter is C of E policy.
I'd say half the pubs in this town have closed already. Sadly the other half are doing things like £1 a pint to clear their stock. Utter cnuts
You’re creating an argument that isn’t there. I said none of these things nor implied any of these things.
Bullshit.
I know I'm fortunate. Hope it works out for you pal.Nice. Wish I was in the same position
If it happened over the course of five years it would not be so bad. But the way its going now the health system will be swamped.
This meme is never gonna die, is it?
Mass has been cancelled for several weeks here now in Italy - it's not what we want, but we have to be sensible.
No one wants it to spread quickly, but going into some sort of lock down on day one simply means it doesnt spread at all. And unless we all plan on spending 18 months indoors waiting on a vaccine (which might not be effective by then anyway) then we needed to let it spread a bit. Which is what we've all done.
From my understanding you'll be on sick pay. This 80 percent grant is for employers who effectively have to close their doors and want to keep the employees on payroll.
Church of England cancelled all public worship a week ago. We weren’t even allowed to record a radio broadcast BCD.
675M? What?
Even handshakes have been absolutely banned for the past three weeks. In the C of E Diocese of Leeds at any rate. But then we never really go for Holy Hugging
What do you mean by 675M? What? It's there in my post. 675M USD.
A lockdown from day one would have been a lockdown about 2 months ago. It was never into question, even in the best of chances, it wouldn't have been possible, even the Chinese couldn't do that.
It's Friday today and we have to pray in congregation. But the large mosques are shut under government guidance. I managed to squeak into a much smaller one expecting it to be heaving but people seem to have taken the advice and stayed home. Seems like Ramadan will be pretty much done at home too from next month (normally it's daily night time prayers in congregation). This is all allowed by the way under extenuating circumstances like these.
Why the feck did they ask for that?
How so? I'm there but haven't left my ends for days
To help the less fortunate countries to fight the pandemic I guess. WHO is funded by the member states. It's in the Guardian. Have a look.
The way you put it it appeared like some form of weird quid pro quo . I'll check it out.
