Where I live people have been pretty well behaved. Most have only gone out when allowed.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I think that's a factor definitely. Even those here legally will in many cases have been in jobs where furlough wont be much help. It doesn't explain wandering around the streets in large groups or having your mates round every evening though. There's also a clear lack of respect for the system there...all it's really doing is giving the Farage mob some actual ammunition.
I'm firmly on the other side of the fence but it's ahrd to find a defence for being in the middle of a public health related lockdown, and seeing 50+ eastern Europeans just willfully ignoring it every time I go for a run, and maybe 5-10 British people doing the same...and they tend to be the ones who I'm not even sure if they are British as it'll be a woman with her kids rather than 10+ people shouting loudly to each other in a group, directly in my fecking way.
That's what I thought as well. You can get most stuff now, paracetamol is still in short supply, but the thing I really want is flour etc to bake, so does every household in the country apparently.
It annoys me how many people still don't understand the rules in the UK. Going to work (where you can't work from home) is, in itself, regarded as essential - it doesn't matter what the work entails. I don't think that Ice Cream men (and women) can work from home!
I understand what you're saying, but in regards to school numbers, schools are only accepting kids with key worker families or special needs so bound to drop, it's not actually by choice. Public transport is a decent shout, alot due to working from home and a lack of tourism.
Well we’ve just had a fecking ice cream van pull up on our street.
No contactless payment, no distancing, nothing!
Joke of a ‘lockdown’!
No contactless payment, no distancing, nothing!
Joke of a ‘lockdown’!
Exactly.
Unless we see marked improvement in figures by June 1st and lockdown is eased we're possibly going to see anarchy. The rent and mortgage freezes end in June. Good luck 'forcing' people to stay home when the alternative is homelessness. I don't think anyone needs to break down what people will do if the safety of their children is on the line, the virus will come a STRONG second to homelessness in terms of risks people are willing to take.
I've just been reading into Sweden's case. I notice they have a 69% death rate in their closed cases vs an average of 20%.
Is this because they are only testing those who clearly have coronavirus? Or because they include nursing home deaths? Or some other reason?
Is this because they are only testing those who clearly have coronavirus? Or because they include nursing home deaths? Or some other reason?
Just read that Solomon Samba, Montpellier player in Ligue 1 in France, and 23 years old, is in induced coma due to covid-19. So strange how some really fit young people get really sick from this.
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Your point is nonsensical, what are you trying to imply? That the virus would be gone if everyone just followed the guidelines?
It's no different from a very healthy person dying during a marathon though.its a freak occurrence, some people have hidden defects
Another consequence of school closures which I heard on the radio today is that vulnerable children are trapped as schools are generally the body which reports suspected neglect and abuse to social services. The consequences of lockdown are vast and serious.
I think society is starting to move out of a lockdown mentality. A lot of the borderline essential services businesses that chose to shut out of choice are getting ready to open again.
I had to be on the road to do a few things for work yesterday and saw one group of 20 lads aged 14-16 walking down the street. It was the first time I’d seen such a blatant breach of the rules. People on my street have been breaking the rules, having cups of tea in their gardens with visitors and so on all through the lockdown. I have too to some extent but I’ve had to do stuff for work and have been in more shops than I should when out. By and large movement has decreased a massive amount but most are taking liberties here and there from my own anecdotal experience.
You do not know if he had any hidden defects so that is pure speculation.
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I read that the thinking was that such cases were being caused by a very strong immune system going into overdrive.
Rent and mortgage freezes would no doubt be extended in that scenario.
Yes, also many other theories, I did a quick search on this now, and found these two articles, where genes are one of the things they look at, also the immune system as you mention :
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/how-sick-will-coronavirus-make-you-answer-may-be-your-genes
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-are-some-young-healthy-people-getting-severe-covid-19/
Anyway, it seems indications will take months to find, and facts regarding this topic will take years of study.
Not sure how I feel about all the DIY places re-opening.
Damn. He could infect hundreds and thousands.
That's where I'm at, as well. I'm not seeing this mass groups of idiots breaking the social distancing guidelines. If anything, I'm conscious that a large number of older people and people with other health conditions (but not in the government notified "highest risk" group) - have decided the "don't leave the house for 12 weeks" guidance applies to them as well.
What I'm also personally aware of is the impact on my family and friends. Two of whom died late March/early April - pre lockdown infections.
But two have died this week - in both cases they were getting treatment (one as a cancer outpatient, the other admitted after a stroke). In both cases they almost certainly picked up the virus at the hospital - as they really hadn't been anywhere or seen anyone from outside the household except in hospital.
As I'm an optimist I actually hope that means we'll see the numbers decline soon - as staff recover and become (hopefully) immune. And of course as PPE and procedures catch up with the challenge of how to support people who need to go to hospital with a serious condition, but who are now immensely vulnerable to an even quicker killer.
We’re not on lockdown
Just stumbled across this on YouTube which I found interesting in itself but thst then prompted me to look on www.flightradar24.com and I was amazed by the number of planes still in the air right now.
The longer you wait to implement a 'lockdown' the longer it will take for the daily deaths to come down to that lower level. The UK waited until the last moment possible and now will have to pay for it, by being locked down for longer if it wants to get those daily deaths down to the 2-300s.
Doesn’t stop them getting the ferry to Ireland at Easter
Yea i am seeing a lot of people out chatting to each other when i was cycling today. I am based in ireland.
I reckon they're mostly cargo though, rather than passenger aircrafts.
Theres a two week lag on care home deaths which went up significantly in the past couple of weeks too. The death rate will stay high because those will be added In the next couple of weeks.
I think new hospital admissions would be the one to look at now but I’m not sure if that available.
edit: found hospital admissions up to the 22nd which have been falling since the 3rd April but rose a little in the last 2 days of this chart.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ile/880848/COVID19_Weekly_Report_22_April.pdf
They could have Irish passports.
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I don't know why but this video really makes me realize how big this is. Air traffic is the embodiment of globalism and capitalism but for the most part it has stopped for almost a month now.
500 people demonstrating against current restrictions and for constitutional rights in Stuttgart today. The city tried to ban it but Germany's Supreme Court overruled them. A general ban on demonstrations had been lifted and the country has seen a number of (mostly small) rallies this week about all sorts of things.
haha, not guilty!A read in English on not so much the how's but the why's of the Swedish approach thus far.
https://bppblog.com/2020/04/23/the-swedish-exception/
(possibly written by @Regulus Arcturus Black)
This according to Michael Osterholm is just the first wave of four or five waves till it goes away, either through a vaccine or 70% of people get infected.
Shes got a point.
Do the public really need to have a close family member die to take this seriously? The big countries in Europe all recognised the seriousness early on and people didnt need to be told to keep their distance. In the UK people have not slowed down anywhere near as much as those other countries - this data is available now. I dont understand why people cant take responsibility instead of blaming the government for every little thing.
The attitude feels closer to the US than to Europe. People like Katie Hopkins saying we are overreacting in the press...and being listened to by some. In Europe she would not even be given a platform.
He seems a bit of an attention seeker?
The UK populace has entered states of isolation and has restricted access to usual services. So yes, it is.
Not if people attempt to compare the UK to anywhere else.
The reason the rates are still so high is because there is no lockdown.
Spain and Italy have seen large reductions in cases as their measures to beat infection rates were better.
The UK is a shitshow of bad information, poor leadership and loosely followed orders.
It's just a hypothesis but I've been thinking the same sort of thing for a couple of months now (I smoke so I am biased)
Smokers may suffer less from covid19 due to the virus attacking the same receptors that nicotine attach to.
https://www.qeios.com/read/article/581
France has also banned sales of nicotine replacement treatments
https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...ine-substitutes-smoker-study-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
Smokers may suffer less from covid19 due to the virus attacking the same receptors that nicotine attach to.
https://www.qeios.com/read/article/581
France has also banned sales of nicotine replacement treatments
https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...ine-substitutes-smoker-study-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
That was really overblown by people losing their shit on social media. There was a journalist tweeting from the ferry ports that weekend and he said 90% of the vehicles getting off were freight and the rest were Irish people coming home from the UK.
I am no longer concerned with when the vaccine will be available because, as things stand, the majority of people in Serbia will refuse to get it an will start a civil war if it is made mandatory.
So great to be living in the enlightenment of the 21st century.
So great to be living in the enlightenment of the 21st century.
Stopped by my mum's to check on her because she hasn't been answering her phone or responding to texts for the last 2 days and didn't have any neighbour's phone numbers. She's fine, she's lost her bloody phone. But her neighbours were in their back garden having a booze up with their extended family. Got back to my house and our neighbours were just getting in their car all dressed up clutching a couple of bottles of plonk. Folk are bloody muppets.