Isolated and take another test would be the obvious advice. The regulations are there for a reason. If not the minimum fine is 1000 pounds I believe.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Isolated and take another test would be the obvious advice. The regulations are there for a reason. If not the minimum fine is 1000 pounds I believe.
I agree with almost everything except I'm all for vaccine passports and I've been a long term advocate of institutional discrimination of the unvaccinated and not just for covid. Make it simple. If you or your kids aren't fully vaccinated or all the man diseases (flu included) you pay an extra 1% medicare levy at tax time and also be unable to claim middle class family tax breaks. In this country it would mean that only those who could afford it would be financially punished for not vaccinating. I also like our current system where you have to scan in at each venue and provide proof of your vaccination (all from the same app) but it is a great deal of time/cost enforcing it pushed onto venues, so I can see why we will be ramping this back by mid December when we will have 95% of over 16's vaccinated (and close to that of 12-15 year olds). Can't say I am looking forward to the unvaccinated being allowed into the places I frequent though and I suspect it will make me less likely to go out for a meal or go to the cinema that I am currently am where you know there are no unvaccinated people allowed.
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I've followed covid regulations stringently from day one. After getting the inconclusive test result I looked at reviews of Boots pharmacy on places like trust pilot and there's literally hundreds of people saying the same thing. So either Boots are terrible at what they do or they're actually scamming people to pay for retests. Either way why should i lose the little time I have here isolating when I have a very clear negative result? Boots have put me in a horrible position. If it was a one off result I could accept it but when so many people have the same complaint it goes beyond, "Doing the right thing."
I understand that I'll be the loser in this which is why I will take a retest although I'm not self isolating but thought others should know if they're thinking of using this company to check them out before buying tests off of them.
How did you have a very clear negative test if it was inconclusive? It sucks but you shouldn't ignore the health advice and risk the fine no matter what. You could be infected which is why you should be isolating. What of the retest coes back positive and you have since infected friends, family and others?
Any test that requires it being self administered and then sent off for testing is going to be prone to errors and inconclusive results which is why many countries are only using test centres. People only ever leave trustpilot reviews when they are pissed off so given the millions of tests Boots have sold I'm not sure that is a very good sign of them being worse than elsewhere.
Are you talking about a LFT where you can see the results yourself? If so, the chances are that there's something wrong with the photo you sent - faulty lighting, focus issue, serial number not clear etc. The results line can be very pale on positives, so if the photo isn't clear/bright I guess it can end up getting labelled as inconclusive.
I guess there could be a batch problem that they know about, but it would be weird if they tried to charge you for that.
I'm getting my booster shot on Thursday. First 2 were with Pfizer, wasn't sure what to choose for the third one, wish I didnt have a choice, its confusing!
Exactly Jojojo. Sorry @Wibble. I didn't explain myself very well on the type of test.
As you know the test kit is white so I put it on a black background and if I say so myself the photo came out perfectly clear. I sent a copy to my wife who is also in the medical profession and she confirmed it was a clear negative result which is why I'm not going to self isolate even though the rules say I should. I'm really between a rock and a hard place because of the consequences of not adhering to the regulations but If the fault lies with the provider (Boots) then I don't think it's justified me losing x amount of days on the little time I have here.
On the subject of payment, in their email to me they did say a retest would be free. When I pressed the option to buy a voucher would appear which never did. I rang their customer services and after being on hold for nearly an hour they told me I have to buy again and they will refund me the money which I'm very sceptical of. It's not even the money that annoys me. If I have another inconclusive test I may miss my flight back to Spain so it is quite a worrying time for something that maybe be caused by something as simple as a glitch in their system at best or at worst people are being conned.
Tomorrow I'll call the 119 covid help line for advice because I'm certainly not going to be buying another kit from Boots.
That sucks and blows. Is that the only way of getting tested?
I havent checked for an update on this in the last few weeks..
Is Europe seeing another surge? Any new variants?
Is Europe seeing another surge? Any new variants?
Some Delta variants are attracting attention, but Delta is already so infectious that the distinctions are currently only of interest to the virologists.
The UK has had high case rates for months, but most cases have been in the U18s. Even so, in October, we were seeing 1000/week deaths. Cases are now falling in the UK and boosters (10m done so far) may be just starting to impact hospitalisations, which should mean falling death rates in a couple of weeks time.
Across Europe, cases have been rising, very fast in some countries. In northern Europe cases are going up, and places like Belgium, Ireland, Germany now have similar case rates to the UK. Basically, like the UK, they're trying to move to thinking of covid as "endemic" - a kind of covid risk/case rate that they're willing to live with, to get back to normal life. It's not an easy journey though and some may try to pause things until more vaccine boosters etc have been given.
Cases rates in France, Spain, Italy currently remain low.
Eastern Europe is experiencing high case rates and with relatively low vaccine rates in most of the countries, their highest ever covid death rates and hospitalisations.
Just tested positive on lateral flow test so going for PCR later on. Been double jabbed since the summer.
Family show no signs of it so does that mean they don't have to isolate (although they will choose to anyway it's no hardship after months of doing it before)?
Felt like a very very minor cold so did the test - if that's as bad as I get it I'll take that.
Family show no signs of it so does that mean they don't have to isolate (although they will choose to anyway it's no hardship after months of doing it before)?
Felt like a very very minor cold so did the test - if that's as bad as I get it I'll take that.
Someone is doing well on this scam.
If they’re double jabbed they can leave you to it
Thanks.
Should get my 2nd Pfizer jab on Thursday, it would 21 day after 1st shot, anyone knows how many weeks it needs to pass for body to build up? Kinda trying to not expose myself to much in this period, like delaying a barber visit etc.
2 weeks is what was recommended but I waited an extra week to make sure.
Okey, thanks a lot.
What do you mean, what scam?
Surely this 80-100k figure of frontline NHS staff not even having first jab can't be true?
I mean they've had first hand accounts of the grave danger of covid last 18 months so just can't believe the figure is that high while ordinary man or woman on the street is getting castigated for refusing to be vaccinated.
Guess they all have their own reasons but just can't believe it.
I mean they've had first hand accounts of the grave danger of covid last 18 months so just can't believe the figure is that high while ordinary man or woman on the street is getting castigated for refusing to be vaccinated.
Guess they all have their own reasons but just can't believe it.
Thanks for this.. Was hoping it would die away.. hopefully vaccines are easily available everywhere soon... uptake might be a problem, but not even having the option must be awful.
So in Denmark we are back at same infection numbers from December/January of last winter, and hospital admissions of mid February - and only trending one way of course. And that is with a 77% vaccination rate of the entire population, so significantly higher for adults. Gotta admit that it has gone much faster than I expected.
Will definitely be interesting to see how far the government goes in terms of restrictions. My feeling is that the support for tough restrictions are much, much lower this year. There are already talks of the hospitals being under pressure again, so will be a fine balance. Hopefully our dictator makes the right call.
Will definitely be interesting to see how far the government goes in terms of restrictions. My feeling is that the support for tough restrictions are much, much lower this year. There are already talks of the hospitals being under pressure again, so will be a fine balance. Hopefully our dictator makes the right call.
77% of the entire population is a pretty impressive number. This thing is just relentless, it feels like its here to stay for a number of years.
Anyone flown/flying to the US soon? I am flying to NY in late November and this testing thing is confusing me. It just says viral so is antigen/lateral flow test KO or is it just better to have a PCR to be better safe than sorry?
I think we're seeing some mixed figures in the government messaging. NHS has over a million employees and a vaccination rate somewhere around 92%. It's not clear how many of the 100k not fully vaxxed are "patient facing" but it's undoubtedly the case that many will be. The 100k probably includes some who have medical exemptions as well.
In some hospitals take-up is over 95%, in others it's below 85%. In general the ones least likely to be vaxxed are young women who are pregnant, or are new mums, or trying to get pregnant - that's a pattern across the country generally. Chances are they will all need individual counselling. I doubt many are staff working on Covid wards, or if they are then there's a good chance they've already had covid.
The "already had covid - so don't need the vaccine" idea is a big thing, particularly for younger staff. Acknowledging that, by offering a customised approach - like if you've got antibodies you only need one dose or whatever might help. It certainly might help convince them they're being listened to.
There's also been lower take-up across the country and across age groups amongst black staff and some other minority groups. Again that will need a bit more than a sledgehammer approach - given that's partly driven by distrust in authority.
It’s a really worrying pattern. In Ireland we have 35 pregnant women currently in ICU with covid. All of them un-vaccinated. Talking to friends who are treating them they say it’s an absolutely horrendous illness to manage in a pregnant person.
Yeah, good luck safely proning a pregnant woman.
Over the last year or so I have checked in on this guys videos and found them helpful. This recent one I was hoping some of the more clear headed in here could have a peek at and share some thoughts. Ive sat in the Ivermectin is not the answer camp for a while, does this video in any way impact that belief?
Is there a reason pregnant women aren't getting vaccinated?
My best mate had awful trouble getting advice for his pregnant wife
The issue is that the early studies used to show that Ivermectin helped were very poor or faked/so deeply flawed as to be meaningless. There is some evidence that it might reduce disease mortality such as that described in the video. I believe proper double blind trials have now started so we may soon know if there is a significant benefit in repurposing the drug.
NSW passed 90% of adults fully vaxxed and close to 95% single jabbed yesterday.
Partly the reason for this generally good news.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-case-numbers-have-stayed-low-since-reopening
12 to 15 year olds are catching up fast (over 80% have had the first shot) and over 5s should be able to be vaxxed very soon.
We need the other states to get their vax rates up now to varying degrees.
Partly the reason for this generally good news.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-case-numbers-have-stayed-low-since-reopening
12 to 15 year olds are catching up fast (over 80% have had the first shot) and over 5s should be able to be vaxxed very soon.
We need the other states to get their vax rates up now to varying degrees.
We’re entering a really interesting period now where people have radically different concepts of risk. This bloke was double vaccinated, as was his wife and when he caught covid he moved out of home. Going to be very hard to get back to anything approaching normality so long as this level of fear is widespread.
Everyday a new all-time high of infections, another awful winter or even a fecking lockdown on the horizon. 
This country is unbelievably stupid.
This country is unbelievably stupid.
Where are you from?Everyday a new all-time high of infections, another awful winter or even a fecking lockdown on the horizon.
This country is unbelievably stupid.
Top of the table!
Is there any reason why vaccination rates are so low in Austria, Germany etc? It seems like there's quite a big disconnect there between the rest of Europe.
Some reasons are listed here:
https://www.thelocal.at/20210903/co...lagging-behind-and-whats-being-done-about-it/
It's ridiculous, really. That far right moron Kickl, who is pictured in the article, held a press conference a few weeks back to show a medical certificate that he is NOT vaccinated, because someone told the outrageous lie that he got a jab.
Mixed messaging. Now the vaccines are known to be safe but early on pregnant women were excluded as the effects were not known. My wife is pregnant as are a bunch of our friends. You'd be amazed at the number of GPs who either don't know the advice has changed, or don't trust it. I'm not sure which it is.
Interesting thread from the FT. Basically a reminder that the journey to "living with" covid is a tough one and it's one being handled with varying degrees of success across Europe. Ultimately we may also be looking at a question of what "success" means.
Highest ever positive cases in NL today, possible lockdown to be announced tomorrow